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worowa
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Feeding animals spent grain blocks
#8294143 - 04/16/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I want to start feeding my chickens the spent grains from my mushroom enterprise. Maybe even the wild birds, possibly my dog-anyone got any recipes, tips, advice?
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im_on_a_boat
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: worowa]
#8294207 - 04/16/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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why do you want to get animals high?
why dont you find something more constructive to do with them like start an outdoor patch or something.
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trscstghst
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: im_on_a_boat]
#8295033 - 04/17/08 05:40 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i accidentally fed a squirrel some colonized grain one time(fucker dug it up) that motherfucker went crazy runnin around like it was lost and chasing birds. funny shit. it came back digging in the same spot for two years hoping to find more
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: trscstghst]
#8295115 - 04/17/08 06:50 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
i accidentally fed a squirrel some colonized grain one time(fucker dug it up) that motherfucker went crazy runnin around like it was lost and chasing birds. funny shit. it came back digging in the same spot for two years hoping to find more
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#8295510 - 04/17/08 09:53 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Post deleted by MankeyReason for deletion: Realized this was in GMM forum. Oops!
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curenado
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: Mankey]
#8295604 - 04/17/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think whatever kind of mushroom it may be a bad idea to be feeding large amounts or perhaps even any of it to them. It could be risky for your critters... Animals eat mycelia and mushrooms in the wild but by their selection and harvest, and always while ripe (they don't eat the old)
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Hotnuts
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: curenado]
#8295750 - 04/17/08 11:15 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. If the mycelium on the grain is nonactive that is.
What do you grow on grain blocks?
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worowa
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: Hotnuts]
#8296793 - 04/17/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I only grow edibles-that's why I post in this forum. Shiitake, Hypsyzigus, Pleurotus, Agrocybe, Coprinus, Ganoderma...and hopefully King Stropharia soon. The magic ones are in the forest if I want them.
I occasionally nibble on the mycelium, and have been tempted to cook up a spent grain blocks, but wanted to see if others have been the guinea pigs.
I've thought about feeding the blocks to the chooks, but then saw in Stamets catalogue that they sell Pet food made from fungi-I wonder if they use the spent grain blocks? Would be cheaper than picking mushies for pets, and the grains still contain some nutrients.
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: worowa]
#8297309 - 04/17/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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i kind of have a personal opinion that blocks are not something you want to be eating. I feel that the inside has lots of inhabatants and you don't want to eat some deadly bacteria. While it may be fully colinized that does not mean something else is living in their. So i myself think it would be bad for animals to, althow better than trash from the garbage probly
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Jeremy_Davis
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: makaveli8x8]
#8301264 - 04/18/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here you go, check this info out http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Links/My_Links_Pages/sms_01.html
I happen to think that this is a very viable option. There is a lot of research on this and it seems like it would be a good Additive (not an entire diet) by a percentage of the diet. Also I personally would pasteurize the SMS before feeding it to the animals.
Alternatively, you could take the spent blocks and make a small biodigester (project for under $100) so that you could generate, capture and use methane/natural gas. This could be used to heat your drum pasteurizers, or outdoor PC runs.
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#8303955 - 04/19/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sure the mycelium wouldn't hurt the animals and would probably even help. However, most of us are not scientists here and don't really know how much of the food value of the grains the mycelium has consumed. As a supplement it would be great, but make sure they get some non-colonized grains along with their normal feed as well. RR
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worowa
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8305967 - 04/19/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some great articles there JD, cheers.
Any other links you could recommend for an aspiring Permaculture teacher?
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Re: Feeding animals spent grain blocks [Re: worowa]
#8308637 - 04/20/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I want to start feeding my chickens the spent grains from my mushroom enterprise
What mushrooms are you fruiting on grain alone? I am growing oysters and lions main for farmers market. The oysters I grow on washed straw. The lions mane I intend to grow on pure white millet. The spent millet will be used to help feed pigs and rabbits raised for meat(personal consumption).
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