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Drewwyann
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So I talked with a police officer two days ago.
#8302670 - 04/18/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He said that if you turn up positive for marijuana when you get pulled over, you get charged with DUI even though it hangs around in your body for weeks. I told him that is like saying you are full from eating a hamburger yesterday because you still have cholesterol in your blood.
He didn't understand what an analogy was, and said "a hamburger isn't a controlled substance."
God damn laws...
Edit: oh yes, it wasn't a one on one talk. It was more like a lecture that I felt like attending, and I asked the question. Not so much of a talk as a public questioning.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8302689 - 04/18/08 10:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You are referring to DUID laws and only several states have DUID laws, it sucks.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8302692 - 04/18/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is some bulshit. Because I quit smokin for 2 months and I still pissed dirty on a piss test
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Chemy]
#8302695 - 04/18/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love ur avatar.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8302696 - 04/18/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, thats a stupid ass that doesn't understand your analogy.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: fantasylndvictm]
#8302702 - 04/18/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, he does have a good one.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8302919 - 04/18/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everyone I know who ever got a marijuana charge was driving at the time and none of them got a DUI, it really would depend on the cop, where you live and how you were driving.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8302958 - 04/18/08 11:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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So they make you piss in a cup on the side of the road or something? Either way fuck that law.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8302987 - 04/19/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mentored kids who got popped for "possession by consumption". Basically, they could be given a ticket for being high based on, from all I could gather from them and teachers, drug court officers etc. "the probability" of being high on school grounds.
Before you say you don't believe it, and that it's illegal, and on and on, I thought the same thing, but I guess somehow you can get busted for appearing high in my county.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: whattheheck]
#8303002 - 04/19/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lawlz @ your analogy.
Deserves 5
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Brain Fart]
#8303019 - 04/19/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i was arrested for dui and was purely faded they took 10 ccs of blood they testted it and droped the case it wound up costing me $1000, but no charges heh
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: fantasylndvictm]
#8303028 - 04/19/08 12:11 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
fantasylndvictm said: That is some bulshit. Because I quit smokin for 2 months and I still pissed dirty on a piss test
yea took me well over 30 days for me to pass mine. but 2 months? thats pretty long.
you must be a big guy.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8303041 - 04/19/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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she's a lady.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303154 - 04/19/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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" a hamburger isnt a controlled substance" lol
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303239 - 04/19/08 01:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I opened the door to a cop once and a puff of smoke just blew out.
He made a face and a noise like "Whew!"
Didn't say anything else about it.
Not all cops are total dicks.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Bandersnatch]
#8303247 - 04/19/08 01:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bandersnatch said:
Not all cops are total dicks.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Coaster]
#8303271 - 04/19/08 02:07 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Coaster said: i was arrested for dui and was purely faded they took 10 ccs of blood they testted it and droped the case it wound up costing me $1000, but no charges heh
If that isn't a sketchy racket, I don't know what is.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303289 - 04/19/08 02:13 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Michigan just passed this law statewide, recently.
Dont toke in the car going to rothbury!!!
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8303325 - 04/19/08 02:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes I'm a lady and I'm only 5'4" and 118lbs. But I didn't ever do anything to burn fat or nothing and I smoked really really heavy so I ddon't kno maybe that's why I still failed.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: fantasylndvictm]
#8303328 - 04/19/08 02:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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fantasylndvictm said: Yes I'm a lady and I'm only 5'4" and 118lbs. But I didn't ever do anything to burn fat or nothing and I smoked really really heavy so I ddon't kno maybe that's why I still failed.
Slow metabolism perhaps?
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: AlteredAgain]
#8303487 - 04/19/08 04:24 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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AlteredAgain said: So they make you piss in a cup on the side of the road or something? Either way fuck that law.
no in my state they "detain" you and take you to the hospital to pee in a cup, if they suspect you may be high. they passed this law mainly because of the meth problem here but you can be charged if you test positive for any illegal drug
does any one have a list of all the states where this is legal?
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: trscstghst]
#8303490 - 04/19/08 04:28 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
does any one have a list of all the states where this is legal?
I think this is what you're looking for: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6669
What a fucked up law.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
#8303507 - 04/19/08 04:48 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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They will try to pin anything on you...You can even get it, for being to sleepy.. To bad they don't have DWT, Driving while texting..
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Brainiac]
#8303514 - 04/19/08 04:54 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brainiac said: You can even get it, for being to sleepy.
Is this true? I drive sleepy all the time.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
#8303581 - 04/19/08 05:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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> He didn't understand what an analogy was, and said "a hamburger isn't a controlled substance."
The correct response would have been, "neither are marijuana metabolites which is what drug tests detect in the body".
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303585 - 04/19/08 05:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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He didn't understand what an analogy was, and said "a hamburger isn't a controlled substance."
god help us
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: alphabeatu]
#8303680 - 04/19/08 07:19 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stories like this I don't know whether to laugh at how ignorant cops are, or cry that these are the people in authority.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303718 - 04/19/08 08:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i can attest to this dumb-ass law as being truth.. at least in CO.
really pretty shitty. An accurate blood test that could tell you the concentration in the blood stream *right then* would be ok, i guess.. but obviously would cost the man a lot more to perform than a UA.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Seuss]
#8303877 - 04/19/08 09:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seuss said: The correct response would have been, "neither are marijuana metabolites which is what drug tests detect in the body".
Actually, in the USA, cannabinoid metabolites are scheduled drugs, under the bullshit analog act.... Then again we're all in possession of a schedule I substance, DMT, hanging out in our spinal fluid right now.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8303890 - 04/19/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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What fucking right does ANYBODY have to analyse your OWN body's chemical make up.
Thats really fucking invasive. Fuck that
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: sam420]
#8304002 - 04/19/08 10:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would like to ask that cop why he doesn't arrest people for carrying DMT around in their brains. It is illegal after all. But he's probably never heard of DMT...
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Plok]
#8304007 - 04/19/08 10:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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we still don't really know for sure if DMT is in the brain. It remains a theory.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8304008 - 04/19/08 10:40 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Uh... No. Just, no.
We don't have DMT in our brains? ... and if you do acid 5 times your legally insane. Please stop the misinformation.
(Well, technically it's only been demonstrated in the cerbrospinal fluid, where it exists both as the freebase and as the protonated phosphate salt.)
Edit: Here's a reference:
Guchhait RB. Biogenesis of 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine in human pineal gland. J Neurochem, 1976;26:187-90.
Edited by Entropymancer (04/19/08 10:50 AM)
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8304054 - 04/19/08 11:04 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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drewwyann, you were just pimped by the entropymancer!
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: derx]
#8304093 - 04/19/08 11:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8304107 - 04/19/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8304144 - 04/19/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Entropymancer said: Actually, in the USA, cannabinoid metabolites are scheduled drugs, under the bullshit analog act....
really because I thought that covered things that could be used to make a drug not the waste product of the drug after it's been metabolized
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8304155 - 04/19/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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It covers anything at all that is "substantially similar" in structure to a scheduled drug. Cannaboinoids are secreted with most of the ring structure intact, so they're definitely analogs.
Of course any self-respecting chemist will tell you that this legislation is absurd.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8304204 - 04/19/08 11:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Analogs can be pretty grey area though.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Bandersnatch]
#8304266 - 04/19/08 12:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's why I said the law was bullshit. It's unenforceable legislation which means that basically everything you own is illegal. But of course it's only used against people making and selling drugs, so apparently Congress is okay with the fact that they made milk, hay, and every living mammal illegal under US law 22 years ago.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8304305 - 04/19/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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In over twenty years of driving and smoking I've only known one friend to get arrested and convicted for smoking and drinking alone with no other factors involved. He claims he was nice and cooperative when he got stopped. I know how arrogant he can be at times however and don't believe him. I'm pretty sure that he talked his way right into the unusual.
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Re: So I talked with a police officer two days ago. [Re: Drewwyann]
#8304403 - 04/19/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Once exposed to government sponsored stupidity, it stays in your system forever.
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