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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829758 - 08/20/02 08:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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i would love to see these CONFIRMED reports you silly canadians keep talking about...confirmed does not mean listed on the ONION.COM site mind you




Here ya go... Bush Knows bear in mind this is written by an American, who is ex LAPD officer, who has an extensive background with the CIA...and all the sources are referenced for you.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #829765 - 08/20/02 08:51 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I've only read the first paragraph thus far and i'm already laughing...

I quote:

"April 22, 2002, 12:00 PDT (FTW) (Revised May 18, 2002) -- A dispassionate examination of existing reliable, open-source evidence on advance warnings of the Sept. 11 attacks provides strong and sustainable grounds to conclude the Bush Administration was in possession of sufficient advance intelligence to have prevented the attacks, had it wished to do so. With a known intelligence budget of approximately $30 billion, it must be assumed there are classified files that only add to the weight of the available data presented here."

Key word being assumed
but i'll read on


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #829776 - 08/20/02 08:58 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

This proves we have crazy people running around
in the US, just like you
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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829781 - 08/20/02 09:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I can't stop laughing...not at the topic because it's truley tragic but the fact that this is taken seriously. The US gets these sort of threats everyday, as does Isreal. Everyday the President gets a list of HOT issues that he and other heads of state have to sift through as to the relavence of it. It's easy to link everything together after the fact, hindsight is always 20/20. To say that we actually knew this was going to happen is plain BS. The article also mention that an american or Isreali site would be the target.....do you know how many sites that is? Thousands. If we knew then what we knew now we would of shut everything down, and guess what? It would of happened the next week or someother time. Rememeber they didn't have guns and bombs so even if we did catch them what could we of done? Wouldn't that be PROFILING? The Libbies in this country would of gone crazy. To summerize that article i will say this: it's easy to place blame after the fact.

it was quite a funny and sad read at the same time


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: ]
    #829782 - 08/20/02 09:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

905, perhaps you should try actualy reading the subject matter before you make smart-ass comments. If you have a relevant arguement feel free to state your case...

Invertigo, you asked for a reference, and I provided it...if you decide to ignore it that's fine. I just find it odd that you don't see anything suspicious about the whole thing...


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #829805 - 08/20/02 09:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I read enough.
The insider trading was blamed on the terrorists.
ect,ect,ect
Read your thread, I am not the only one finding it hard
to take this seriously.Try the security forum.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: ]
    #829817 - 08/20/02 09:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ah...I see...okay let's assume what you say is true, it was only the terrorists. Shouldn't have someone been alerted by the dramatic increase in trading on these stocks?...There is supposed to be measures in place to monitor these actions...why weren't any alarms raised?


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #829841 - 08/20/02 09:29 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know the stock market.
Now you are getting into an area that implies
that wall street was involved and the foriegn markets.
What about your government, they didn't notice it either.

You said the conspiracy is where are the hijackers names.
First off criminal investigations and security matters are usually kept somewhat secretive.no conspiracy.

I saw reports of terrorists using identity theft of living people.
We may not have confirmed identities on everyone.no conspiracy.









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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: ]
    #829857 - 08/20/02 09:35 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

If the stock market is involved of course wall street is involved..they are one and the same. Our government does not have any control over Wall street, and Canada is not free from blame either...if you took the time to read the Mike Vreeland article you will see that we also had info that was not disclosed. Like I've said over and over again..this is not..I repeat IS NOT an anti American theme...you are just taking that way.

In reply to:

Recently, Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga., has been widely criticized in the mainstream press for raising the need for a Congressional investigation to answer some of these obvious questions. This, in spite of the fact that popular reaction indicates a different sentiment. An opinion poll, conducted by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution just a day after McKinney's remarks received wide public attention in a Washington Post story dated April 12, was pulled after poll numbers showed that 51 percent of the respondents agreed with McKinney.




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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830117 - 08/20/02 11:40 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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So because you don't believe in UFO's (which are a mathematical probability by the way) then the rest of the site is bullshit?...



Actually, I'd be amazed if we are the only intelligent life forms in the universe. Most of my scorn for that site was because I DID look at more of it. You really need to stop leaping to conclusions the way you do.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830122 - 08/20/02 11:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

And I was careful to keep my remarks neutral. There was nothing there I consider derogatory. And if I feel one line is sufficent, why go on?


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #830132 - 08/20/02 11:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Okay people..could we PLEASE get past the UFO thing? It's irrelevant...please address the rest of my posts.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830150 - 08/20/02 11:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

When you use a web site like the one you provided a link to, when you seem to believe their words as gospel, when you find a conspiracy behind every closed door, and when you use McKinney's words as support, you become impossible to take seriously. McKinney is a nut case whos own party has disavowed her rantings.

I have been reading down and responding as I go which is why I responded to the posts on the UFO's.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830154 - 08/20/02 11:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Like I've said over and over again..this is not..I repeat IS NOT an anti American theme




Sure.... sure.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830157 - 08/20/02 11:54 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Our government does not have any control over Wall street...
Of course not, you're Canadian, Wall Street is in the U.S. Why is this relevent?


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #830165 - 08/20/02 11:58 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Ah...I see...okay let's assume what you say is true, it was only the terrorists. Shouldn't have someone been alerted by the dramatic increase in trading on these stocks?...There is supposed to be measures in place to monitor these actions...why weren't any alarms raised?




Yes we should have just grounded all the airplanes. We should just keep them grounded just in case someone wants to try this again. While we're at it, lets take every tip as gospel and act as if it's a certainty that it will happen. There must only be a few hundred tips a day, what the hell... let's just all stay home all the time. Then we'll be safe. Oh wait.... what if the house catches on fire. We'd better stay outside. Wait.... what if there's a tornado or lightening. Crap, let's just all kill ourselves now.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #830191 - 08/20/02 12:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, U.S. intelligence has to deal with this kind of shit all the time...but when you have foreign intelligence angencies ALL telling you the same thing, listing dates and methods, and who is involved that's a different story. Now I'm no expert on security or intelligence, but that's what many people like to call a "Clue"


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: ]
    #830195 - 08/20/02 12:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Our government does not have any control over Wall street...
Of course not, you're Canadian, Wall Street is in the U.S. Why is this relevent?


Please read the post I was replying to...it may make more sense.


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Rono]
    #831199 - 08/20/02 08:32 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

****I agree, U.S. intelligence has to deal with this kind of shit all the time****

yeah like terrorists comming from Canada...thanks guys..nice security

****but when you have foreign intelligence angencies ALL telling you the same thing, listing dates and methods****

there's only one problem....there was no exact place mentioned...should we have profiled all arabs in the US? I like the idea of profiling...too bad the socialists don't

****Now I'm no expert on security or intelligence****

shocking

****but that's what many people like to call a "Clue" ****

we have hundreds of "clues" a day....remember we have 270 million people to sift through....


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Re: Passenger List from 9/11...notice anything weird? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #831264 - 08/20/02 08:51 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Seems pretty unlikely that the US government would have known about the attacks in advance.


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