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Offlineprimal_future
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Casing BRF cakes (pics)
    #829568 - 08/20/02 07:17 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, a friend decided to try casing brf cakes, so this is what he did:

1. After cakes were 100% colonized, he dunked them overnight.
2. Then he grabbed a nice sized container and added 1/2 inch perlite to the bottom.



3. Next, he added 1/2 inch layer of damp vermiculte that he had sterilized in the microwave for 30 minutes. Unfortunately, the vermiculite felt dry, so he added sterilized water to the vermiculite to achieve proper moisture levels.



4. Then, he crumbled 3 brf cakes to about the size of marbles and spread them accross the vermiculite.



5. After that, he added another 1/2 inch layer of damp, sterlized vermiculite to cover the crumbled brf cakes.



6. Finally, he put the lid on the container and put it in a warm, dark place. After the mycellium begins to penetrate the casing layer, he will cold shock, add light, start fanning, and misting.

Any comments and/or suggestions would be appreciated

primal





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Edited by primal_future (08/20/02 07:18 AM)


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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: primal_future]
    #829572 - 08/20/02 07:19 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: Macey Howard]
    #829580 - 08/20/02 07:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Moe,

LOL ... I knew my friend should have wiped that stuff up before taking the pics! Can't he get no luv from the Moe man?

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829647 - 08/20/02 07:58 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Is"your friend" gonna keep this updated I am very interested to see how his work turns out...


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
    #829681 - 08/20/02 08:14 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

But of course!

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829682 - 08/20/02 08:14 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

you nuked the verm for 30 minutes! damn thats gotta be hot, but answer me this. did you take such careful preparations with that water that was added afterwards? if not then you wasted alot of energy nuking that verm. since the h20 will carry contams too. just a comment.


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: cantankerous]
    #829705 - 08/20/02 08:28 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The water added later was nuked for ten minutes and then left in the microwave to cool before adding to the vermiculite, which had been covered in the bowl with a clean plate that had been wiped down with alcohol.

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829733 - 08/20/02 08:38 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

That's pretty cool, man. Keep us updated


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: cantankerous]
    #829743 - 08/20/02 08:41 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Anybody know a better strategy for ending up with field capacity vermiculite for casing? My friend considered the pressure cooker, but didn't have any containers that would handle that much vermiculite that would work with the pressure cooker, and he didn't want to just pour it in as that would be pretty messy. But then again, as Moe observed, things got a little messy anyways.

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829756 - 08/20/02 08:47 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

primal,

are you asking for a way to sterilize large amounts of verm for casing? in my understanding of the process in verm production, most verm is basically sterilized in that very process so as long as you dont open the bag the verm should be pretty much sterilized. of course it is hard to say how careful they are in the packaging of the verm. if that isnt your question ignore this.


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: cantankerous]
    #829764 - 08/20/02 08:51 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Beatle,

Problem is that my friend had already opened the bag for a previous project and didn't trust that contams didn't enter in the meantime.

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829860 - 08/20/02 09:38 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Very nice, Primal. I predict good things from that casing.


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #829897 - 08/20/02 10:00 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

That looks good for a start. Next time though you might want to skip the perlite layer. Unless you sterlized that perlite, it's a contaminant waiting to happen. It can be bad to have still water spots. I made a casing exactly like yours once, and I got one good flush, and then a week later BOoOm, I had green mold everywhere. THe thing was though that I looked closer at the layering of the casing contamination, and it started from the perlite, and finished in the top.
In so many words, just check for this.
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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: josh057]
    #829958 - 08/20/02 10:29 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

My friend was a little concerned about the perlite too. After reading Tripmeister's post about the kit he got from the Netherlands that had perlite in the bottom, he thought he'd give it a try, although that kit probably used rye with a layer of vermiculite on top. Supposedly, one of the biggest problems with casings is being too wet, so he thought the extra drainage might help. Supposedly, perlite is pretty sterile right out of the bag due to the high temperatures in making perlite, but you're right, it makes a great harbor for contamination if it gets in there, so we'll see!

Maybe he'll try misting with the bleach tek. Hopefully some of the bleach water will reach the perlite layer and take care of things.

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Edited by primal_future (08/20/02 10:33 AM)


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: primal_future]
    #830058 - 08/20/02 11:20 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

verm has no nutrients in, so wouldnt harbour many contams......just nuke it/cook it/whatever and it will be fine....u wont get any mould growing off verm unless u get some uncolonized brf on it

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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: Zed]
    #24125169 - 02/28/17 04:35 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

"your friend"... hmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: Newbie McShroomie]
    #24125272 - 02/28/17 07:03 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Quote:

Newbie McShroomie said:
"your friend"... hmmmmmmmmm




This post is 14 years old


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: mushpunx]
    #24125343 - 02/28/17 08:16 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Wow a whole thread full of people talking about sterilizing verm and perlite in the microwave...
I'm so thankful that I never had to worry about this shit.


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: mushpunx]
    #24126053 - 02/28/17 03:31 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Quote:

mushpunx said:
Quote:

Newbie McShroomie said:
"your friend"... hmmmmmmmmm




This post is 14 years old




no... this thread is 14 years YOUNG* thank you very much


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Re: Casing BRF cakes (pics) [Re: Newbie McShroomie]
    #24126326 - 02/28/17 05:38 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Before you post it will give you a little warning if the thread is wicked old look for that next time so you don't dredge them up


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