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Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC
    #8289065 - 04/15/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I knew when apple got lazy and started using the exact same harware as PCs that the clones would soon return from their shallow grave. OS X runs on a few PCs straight up here is the cheapest one i found that advertises it

http://www.psystar.com/index.php?&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=1&category_id=3&manufacturer_id=4&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=72

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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: AhronZombi]
    #8289177 - 04/15/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its not straight up they still have to do a few tweaks apparently to get it to run apparently. www.osxproject.com shows people building there own.

psystar is infringing on teh end user aggrement so it will be interesting what teh court says. as of now its doesnt mean much in teh eyes of the law apparently.


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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: the man]
    #8289542 - 04/15/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

actually this is not true at all. if you spent any time reading the osx86 projects page you would see allot of hardware runs with no tweaking at all. Apple dosent use special hardware, they just have so little support built into their OS that "most" hardware dosent work. I was a mac fan boy for years, but when they went X86 and i found out they had the exact same hardware as manufactures like sony and HP for a huge mark up i went linux

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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: AhronZombi]
    #8290357 - 04/16/08 04:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> you would see allot of hardware runs with no tweaking at all.

Bzzt. Because Apple uses EFI rather than legacy BIOS to boot, you cannot install OS-X on normal PC hardware without at least one tweak to map EFI calls into BIOS.

> Apple dosent use special hardware

Actually, they do. There is an Infineon TPM chip on all commercial Intel based Apple computers. There are various tweaks to circumvent the TPM.

Apple also uses instructions that are specific to certain Intel x86 models (SSE3/SSE4). If you are running an AMD based system, you have to tweak the binaries to get around the instruction issue.


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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: Seuss]
    #8291477 - 04/16/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

these are intel systems not AMD. and regular PCs use EFI and TPM chip now, not all of them but most of the newer ones. Most new laptops especially use EFI

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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: AhronZombi]
    #8292494 - 04/16/08 05:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> and regular PCs use EFI and TPM chip now

I know of no regular "wintel" computer that uses EFI. If they exist, they are certainly not mainstream. I would love to see you show your claim to be true.

Regarding TPM... how, exactly, are these regular PCs installing Apple's private key? Curious minds want to know. Assuming that they are not installing Apple's private key, then it doesn't bloody matter if a regular PC has a TPM chip in it or not, from an Apple OS-x standpoint, now does it?


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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: Seuss]
    #8292776 - 04/16/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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> and regular PCs use EFI and TPM chip now

I know of no regular "wintel" computer that uses EFI.  If they exist, they are certainly not mainstream.  I would love to see you show your claim to be true.

Regarding TPM... how, exactly, are these regular PCs installing Apple's private key?  Curious minds want to know.  Assuming that they are not installing Apple's private key,  then it doesn't bloody matter if a regular PC has a TPM chip in it or not, from an Apple OS-x standpoint, now does it?



yeah i just made all that up your absolutely right :rolleyes:

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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: AhronZombi]
    #8294853 - 04/17/08 03:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> yeah i just made all that up your absolutely right :rolleyes:

Off topic discussion is much better suited for fantasy than Science and Tech.  If you are going to make things up, please post them in the appropriate forum. Thanks.


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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: Seuss]
    #8295222 - 04/17/08 07:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

that psystar company was recently debunked as a fake company, they aren't actually selling that thing.

http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax

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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: beatyou]
    #8308230 - 04/20/08 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Its probably a hoax.. they changed their adress 4x in 2 days and frikin no1 has heard of them. also are no longer taking credit card info.
http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax


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Re: Run Mac OS X straight up on a $400 PC [Re: Felinor]
    #8309319 - 04/20/08 11:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yea that company is total bullshit. haha

maybe apple knew they were bs from the beginning, so thats why they didn't send cease & desist immediately.

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