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using a syringe thats been used for human injections
    #8288401 - 04/15/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

thats all i can get a hold of right now. I know that sounds real sketchy to use but, is there a way to sterilize the needle enough to where i can use that for inoculating jars? im not asking for a tek on how to inoculate jars or make spore syringes, but rather is it safe to use a syringe thats been used for other things, and what would be the best way to sterilize it? (Standard boiling water?)


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Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: TheBandit]
    #8288425 - 04/15/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"used for human injections" probably refers to a u100 or u66 syringe thats not big enuff anyway, and besides .. bleh @ wtf that thing may have been.

Ya, technically it can be cleaned, but be rational here, get some clean syringes.

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: TheBandit]
    #8288438 - 04/15/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

~Gross....You could sterilize it, but I worry that it may not be a big enough gauge? Not saying that it wouldn't work, but for convenience sake and to avoid clogs.

There are no farm supply stores around you to buy a large gauge syringe from? ~Pixie~


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: jbl70]
    #8288440 - 04/15/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The best way available to you?

1. Flame needle
2. Soak in 5% bleach solution for 1h, being sure to draw in bleach solution into syringe
3. PC for 90 minutes at 15psi with bleach solution still inside
4. Flame needle
5. Eject bleach solution
6. Store in safe location, treating the needle as though it has been in contact with HIV


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: Psuper]
    #8288599 - 04/15/08 08:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Psuper said:
~Gross....You could sterilize it, but I worry that it may not be a big enough gauge? Not saying that it wouldn't work, but for convenience sake and to avoid clogs.

There are no farm supply stores around you to buy a large gauge syringe from? ~Pixie~




haha, yeah its pretty sick but its all i got.
no, there arent any farm supply stores remotely close to me.


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: TheBandit]
    #8288815 - 04/15/08 08:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

A used needle? Stop doing meth.





However, those needles are only useful with spores.


Don't bother with filling them with bleach, that's pretty stupid. PC'ing bleach will just make a hazardous mess. Just PC syringes filled with water.

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: zathan]
    #8289033 - 04/15/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hey now, that's not fair

it could be heroin.


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: anarchOi]
    #8289397 - 04/15/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I got a song for you

Dirty needles by screeching weasel


Cant find a video put here is another cool song about needles and cleaning them and what not.

Fifteen My Congressman Lyrics

My congressman says I cant give my brother a clean syringe
If he should get aids and die, that's just too bad
My senator says I can't give my sister a clean syringe
If she should get hepititis and die, that's just too bad
My president says I cant give my brother a clean syringe
If he should get hepititis and die, that's just too bad
The policeman says I cant give my sister a clean syringe
If she should get aids and die, that's just too bad

My county superviser likes to think he's so much wiser
Than all the doctors put together
Who say we should give away clean syringes
My city councilman says it's not a problem
We're only gonna spend millions on treatment won't work
For people who will die
My community likes to claim immunity on the basis of homophobia
And a lack of medical fact
Hey america there's needle users sleeping with your children
With your daughters, with your sons and with your husbands.

We got a law, says you can't own a needle.
Without a presciption
Do you think that ever kept anyone from shooting up?
All the politicians say, we cant legalize exchange
Because that would be sending the wrong message
But did you ever notice,

On every billboard, in every magazine, in every corner store, on every tv screen.
The message is "buy cigarettes and alcohol"
Don't you know drugs are everywhere , you can't stop it
Criminalize it, make it profitable, ensure its longevity
Don't you know drugs are everywhere, you can't stop it
It's not a law enforcement issue,
Addiction's a disease

If you find your self in the position of having to share a needle with another person,
Take the steps to ensure that you don't get infected.
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
That's step one
Suck bleach up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck bleach up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck bleach up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
That's step two
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
Suck water up to the top of the needle, and squirt it out.
That's step three, you're done

We got a law, says you can't own a needle.
Without a presciption
Do you think that ever kept anyone from shooting up?
All the politicians say, we cant legalize exchange
Because that would be sending the wrong message
But did you ever notice,
On every billboard, in every magazine, in every corner store, on every tv screen.
The message is "buy cigarettes and alcohol"
Don't you know drugs are everywhere, you can't stop it
Criminalize it, make it profitable, ensure its longevity
Don't you know drugs are everywhere , you can't stop it
It's not a law enforcement issue,
Addiction's a disease
My congressman says I can't give my brother a clean syringe
If he should get aids and die, that's just too bad
My senator says I cant give my sister a clean syringe
If she should get hepititis and die, that's just too bad
My president says I cant give my brother a clean syringe
If he should get hepititis and die, that's just too bad
The policeman says I can't give my sister a clean syringe
If she should get aids and die, that's just too bad
My county superviser likes to think he's so much wiser
Than all the doctors put together
Who say we should give away clean syringes
My city councilman say's it's not a problem
Were only gonna spend millions on treatment won't work
For people who will die
My community likes to claim immunity on the basis of homophobia
And a lack of medical fact
Hey america there's needle users sleeping with your children
With your daughters, with your sons and with your husbands.


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: anarchOi]
    #8289520 - 04/15/08 11:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Or insulin? Ive though of this myself already...


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: anarchOi]
    #8290121 - 04/16/08 02:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

anarchOi said:
hey now, that's not fair

it could be heroin.


:yesnod:

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: Blutjager]
    #8290243 - 04/16/08 03:02 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There are plenty of human used needles of high enough gauge to handle spores. As he has not specified the size I believe he must think his will do fine.

As for sterilizing, germs, bacteria, viruses, all the same thing no matter how they got there. So you have many options, bleach the syringe, boil it, put Lysol into the syringe, really whatever you want. Just make sure if you do bleach Lysol it that you rinse the insides out with some sterile water afterwards.


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: zathan]
    #8290580 - 04/16/08 07:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

zathan said:Don't bother with filling them with bleach, that's pretty stupid. PC'ing bleach will just make a hazardous mess. Just PC syringes filled with water.




Are you retarded?

PCing bleach is perfectly fine - as I said in my original suggestion, I said dilute bleach (5%) genius. Its not going to make a hazardous mess.

God I hate it when people with no (apparent) formal training in anything science related spout this shit.


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: amanitavirosa]
    #8290715 - 04/16/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

amanitavirosa said:
Quote:

zathan said:Don't bother with filling them with bleach, that's pretty stupid. PC'ing bleach will just make a hazardous mess. Just PC syringes filled with water.




Are you retarded?

PCing bleach is perfectly fine - as I said in my original suggestion, I said dilute bleach (5%) genius. Its not going to make a hazardous mess.

God I hate it when people with no (apparent) formal training in anything science related spout this shit.




High five Amanita!!

You didn't suggest rinsing out the syringe. Won't the chlorine residue left inside the syringe (as it can't evaporate) be harmful to the spores?


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: Nibin]
    #8290849 - 04/16/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Nibin said:You didn't suggest rinsing out the syringe. Won't the chlorine residue left inside the syringe (as it can't evaporate) be harmful to the spores?




Even a dilute solution of bleach can cause germination issues for the spores, so yes, residual bleach / chlorine will cause issues.

The idea is to just squirt all that crap out, draw in sterile water and some sterile air, shake the syringe, squirt the water out and repeat two more times.

The bleach helps sterilize the syringe on top of heat-treating it. Just an added layer of security considering the syringe (and needle) is a biohazard.

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: amanitavirosa]
    #8290895 - 04/16/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Will you cunts stop fighting..look addict simply suck some boiling water ..leave it for about 2 minutes(repeat for 3X),then suck some diluted bleach/water and PC at 15psi for about 30minutes....Then simply squirt bleach out and then fill withn boiling water....Then wrap the syrinhe in aluminum and put in a pot of water to boil for about 40 minutes...There very sterile syringe..

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: crazyoutlaw]
    #8290898 - 04/16/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

crazyoutlaw said:
Will you cunts stop fighting..look addict simply suck some boiling water ..leave it for about 2 minutes(repeat for 3X),then suck some diluted bleach/water and PC at 15psi for about 30minutes....Then simply squirt bleach out and then fill withn boiling water....Then wrap the syrinhe in aluminum and put in a pot of water to boil for about 40 minutes...There very sterile syringe..




Yeah, or you can basically repost what I said before :smirk:


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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: amanitavirosa]
    #8291456 - 04/16/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

haha, nah im not drug addict.
its not my syringe...its someone i know. im not sure if its big enough or not...i havent looked at it in about a month....but thanks for the tips on sterilizing it.
oh, and whoever called me an addict can suck a fat one...ive never used heroin or meth. :wink:


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: jbl70]
    #8291466 - 04/16/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

jbl70 said:
"used for human injections" probably refers to a u100 or u66 syringe thats not big enuff anyway, and besides .. bleh @ wtf that thing may have been.

Ya, technically it can be cleaned, but be rational here, get some clean syringes.




yeah, i just found out its a u100.
that wont work?


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it.  Typical know-it-all noob.  We get a few thousand just like you register here every year.  They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.

We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends. 

Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing.  They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end.  They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection.  These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: TheBandit]
    #8294751 - 04/17/08 02:16 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If you have had that thing sitting around for a month there is nothing alive on it anyhow. HIV and other virus' are fairly weak and can not survive outside of the body within 48 to 72 hrs. Give it a good cleaning just for kicks...junky! :smile: Kidding of course.

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Re: using a syringe thats been used for human injections [Re: atomicblue]
    #8294886 - 04/17/08 03:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I'm curious about the situation you're that the only syringe you can get is one that's been used for injecting a drug into someone. You know it's really not that hard to get unused ones.


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