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GabbaDj
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Beer Agar....
#828829 - 08/19/02 05:40 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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are their any agar formulas that dont require agar? I mean can you get similar results by using gelatin and a nutrient ritch liquid?
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Edited by GabbaDj (08/20/02 03:40 PM)
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Champion des Champignons
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Re: agar agar. [Re: GabbaDj]
#828854 - 08/19/02 05:54 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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gelatine doesn't work, the mycelium digests it into goo. You could try any kind of flour paste, mixed to a pourable consistency and PC'ed. I used to use wheat flour paste with acceptable results, but after trying agar I'd never go back. You can get cheap agar-agar powder in most health food stores for cheap, so unless getting agar is impossible I'd recommend going for that.
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Visigoth
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I thought I read somewhere that agar agar won't work because it's not nutritious. Any validity to this?!?!
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Champion des Champignons
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Re: agar agar. [Re: Visigoth]
#829000 - 08/19/02 06:52 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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which is why agar formulas contain added nutrients eg malt extract, dextrose, yeast, potato or a mix of several.
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mickey_rourke
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Re: agar agar. [Re: Visigoth]
#829001 - 08/19/02 06:53 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Agar agar is only the base. You still need to add nutrients. Check out these recipes.
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GabbaDj
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Damn... I guess a trip to the health food store (1hr) is better than waiting for agar in the mail...
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mickey_rourke
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Re: agar agar. [Re: GabbaDj]
#829077 - 08/19/02 07:32 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've used prepared bacterialogical grade PDA and home made PDA, and they both work well. In fact, the only advantage that I have seen with the prepared PDA was the end clarity of the agar mixture.
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GabbaDj
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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj]
#830800 - 08/20/02 03:43 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok so I made the trip and got some agar, 2 oz worth. I also got Wheat Gluten, some fresh ground wheat flower and some natural honey.
What about using beer in the mix? I plan on doing this all tomorrow and if nobody tells me its a BAD idea Ima gona try using 1/2 dark beer with active yeasts and 1/2 wates also just an all beer method with B+ spores....
Anyone try using beer as liqued before?
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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj] 1
#830807 - 08/20/02 03:47 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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50/50 mix of beer/water with 1g of agar agar per 50ccs works good.
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mickey_rourke
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Re: Beer Agar.... [Re: GabbaDj]
#830878 - 08/20/02 04:32 PM (21 years, 8 months ago) |
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Haven't you ever heard anyone refer to beer as liquid bread before?
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