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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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InvisibleIcelander
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Re: A significant duality [Re: deranger]
    #8288769 - 04/15/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

In thirty or forty years trance may seem silly and boring to you, but you will revel in a good healthy shit.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: A significant duality [Re: Icelander]
    #8288781 - 04/15/08 08:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

can't wait.

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Re: A significant duality [Re: deranger]
    #8288798 - 04/15/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You will be there in what will seem like a moment. I myself love to dance to trance music while tripping and then in the morning take a great big...


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: A significant duality [Re: Icelander]
    #8288830 - 04/15/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

'But art is just one of the many ways we play and not intrinsically more important than sandlot baseball.'

At one time art served as code, imo.  I feel we are still pulling meaning out of ancient art today and building reality with it.  Its as if the artists/creators/builders knew something important.:sunny:


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Re: A significant duality [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8288847 - 04/15/08 08:53 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

visionary art FTW

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Re: A significant duality [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8291088 - 04/16/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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backfromthedead said:
'But art is just one of the many ways we play and not intrinsically more important than sandlot baseball.'

At one time art served as code, imo.  I feel we are still pulling meaning out of ancient art today and building reality with it.  Its as if the artists/creators/builders knew something important.:sunny:




You mean like the bible code?:lol:

If we are using it to create something now it isn't working IMO. Art would be like religion in that it makes assumptions based on fear or desire that may bear no realtion to reality.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: A significant duality [Re: Icelander]
    #8291530 - 04/16/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So are there any human experiences that you still find to be more significant than others? Or are they all exactly the same?


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Re: A significant duality [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8291705 - 04/16/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Significant
Having or expressing a meaning; meaningful.




Significance is most likely a subjectively-determined quality. The only way one could state that a particular variety of human experience was "significant" is if one knew what had objective meaning (as in THE meaning of life.). Since objective meaning eludes us mere mortals, it is not possible to state whether one type of experience is significant, and therefore also impossible to state relative degrees of significance.

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Re: A significant duality [Re: gluke bastid]
    #8293878 - 04/16/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
So are there any human experiences that you still find to be more significant than others? Or are they all exactly the same?




What the brilliant Veritas just said.

Think of it this way. once you're dead and the human race is gone and the earth is burned to a crisp will one thing you did be more important than another to anything or anyone but you?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: A significant duality [Re: Icelander]
    #8294702 - 04/17/08 01:46 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

who knows?


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Re: A significant duality [Re: Icelander]
    #8295249 - 04/17/08 08:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
So are there any human experiences that you still find to be more significant than others? Or are they all exactly the same?




What the brilliant Veritas just said.

Think of it this way. once you're dead and the human race is gone and the earth is burned to a crisp will one thing you did be more important than another to anything or anyone but you?




No. But that is not what I was asking. I wasn't talking about significance from universal objective point of view. I agree it is moronic to believe that anything the human race (or any race) does has any lasting "significance" in terms of the indifferent eternitiy of the void. I was asking if you, personally, find all experience to be equally mundane. And it wasn't a rhetorical question. As a musician I am constantly surrounded by other musicians and artists, so its rare that I meet someone who doesn't use art to try and transcend the mundane either for themselves or their audience as a given.

The reason I asked if you find any one experience more personally significant than any other was to see if there is something that acts for you the way music (ideally) acts for me...or if it is all equally mundane.


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