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OfflineEvilBastard
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SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL!
    #828169 - 08/19/02 02:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In Canada

it's Christmas-time
watch those snow drifts mount!
Remember, if you're visiting
It's thought-crimes that count!


Thursday, December the 14th in the year 2000 marks yet another dark day in
Canadian History. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled not to hear Ernst
Zundel's application to stay the Security Intelligence Review Committee
(SIRC) tribunal to rule over if he is a security threat to Canada.

In Canada where absurdities rule, truth is no defence and you can be
deported for thought crimes, star cambers like SIRC and the "Human Rights"
Tribunal reign supreme.

According to Canada's "Political Police", the Canadian Security
Intelligence Service (CSIS), Ernst Zundel is a threat to Canada, not
because he has ever committed a crime in Canada, not because he has ever
threatened anybody, not because he has ever hurt anybody, BUT because he
happens to know people who may be "criminals". Among those cited as
vicious criminals Zundel associated with, are people like Ewald Althens.
His big crime? Bank Robberies? Murders? Assaults? Heck no, he was
convicted in the banana republic of Germany for THOUGHT CRIMES. But
remember in the La-La Land of Deutschland you can be convicted and sent to
jail for whistling "Nazi" songs while working in your garden, no joke!

Ernst Zundel, who has been in Canada for more than 40 years, was married to
a Canadian woman, has 2 kids here, employed dozens of Canadians, always
paid taxes here, never broke a law here, now has to suffer the indignity of
sitting at the SIRC hearings. And for "National Security" reasons, Zundel
is not allowed to know who is testifying against him, he is not allowed to
cross-examine the people who testify against him, he is not even allowed
to know what they say and what they accuse him of.

While the judge may not be named Alice, there can be no mistake this is
Wonderland. How can you defend yourself against accusations when you are
not even allowed to know what they are?

Canada has now fallen face first into the abyss of absurdity.

While they rake descent Canadians like Ernst Zundel over the coals,
Vietnamese Coke pushers in Calgary are welcomed with open arms. Multi-drug
resistant TB carriers in Hamilton, Toronto and Vancouver are welcomed with
open arms. Jamaican perverts who go to malls and masturbate in their cars
are welcomed with open arms. Fraudsters, liars, cheats, murderers, AIDS
patients, TB patients, all welcomed with open arms in Absurdistan.

But if you disagree on a lying version of your own people's history. You
must be stopped -- you must be deported!


As John Hay wrote in 1872, "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him
who resists it."

The evils of the Canadian tyranny are now open for all to see in Canada.
The underhanded persecution of his man for his Ideas. The Tribunals, the
Star Cambers, the bombings, the threats, the intimidation, the scheming of
the back-room parasites who work in the shadows have been illuminated. The
underbelly of the beast is now showing.


"...So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who
wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will
devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and
otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men."
- Voltaire


It is now the time to stand up against the tyrants! We must now make a
stand for freedom of expression in Canada.

"Eternal Vigilance is the price of Liberty", we must remain vigil and
protect freedom of speech at all costs.


WHAT CAN YOU DO?

Call, write, fax, E-Mail your Member of Parliament and complain about the
disgusting treatment handed down to Ernst Zundel.

Inform others to this major threat to freedom of speech.

Send donations and letters of support to Ernst Zundel. [Ernst Zundel, 206
Carlton Street, Toronto, Ontario, M5A 2L1] You can find out more about
Ernst Zundel at http://www.zundelsite.org



Do not be cowed into silence by the enemies of freedom. We must stand up
and protect our rights to speak, write and think whatever we want.



Thanks you very much;


-Marc Lemire
Freedom-Site Webmaster





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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: EvilBastard]
    #828182 - 08/19/02 02:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmmm...he does a lot of talking but he hasn't said a thing...the impression I get from this is that Ernst
Zundel is a suspected Nazi sympathizer (of course that's just my take on it, since it doesn't really give too much info) and if he is, then what's the problem?


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Rono]
    #828199 - 08/19/02 02:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Even if he is, maybe you should worry more about his treatment than about passenger lists.

Get your own house in order before worrying about ours.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Rono]
    #828220 - 08/19/02 02:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you Canadians are beginning to make me feel superior


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #828223 - 08/19/02 02:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

luvdemshrooms..you really are a piece of work. Somehow the world being lied to is less important than some Kraut that's getting kicked out of Canada? Please refrain from replying to my posts until you say something intelligent.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Rono]
    #828385 - 08/19/02 04:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

When you make a post I consider intelligent, I'll respond however you wish. Which leaves me free to respond at will.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #828396 - 08/19/02 04:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

OK, let's fight nice here!


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: EvilBastard]
    #828897 - 08/19/02 08:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He's a holocaust denier.

If you want actual infomation about the case, and not more babble from online racist groups, check this out: http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/justice2000/132mile.html

To all you people that are siding with EvilBastard on anything, you should realize he's just posting outdated, or completely inaccurate links in an attempt to piss people off. He's a troll.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #828903 - 08/19/02 08:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

****To all you people that are siding with EvilBastard on anything, you should realize he's just posting outdated, or completely inaccurate links in an attempt to piss people off. He's a troll****

and that's any different from who now?


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #828905 - 08/19/02 08:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and ON TOP OF THAT... the conviction was overturned!?

Shame on Canada, what the hell are you even talking about? This case went to court, he received a fair trial, and fucking won!

Like I said, EvilBastard is a troll. Either that, or a complete moron.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #828910 - 08/19/02 08:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

One more thing to add... this was in 1992. If you decide to send any donations now, you'll simply be funding a holocaust denier.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #828921 - 08/19/02 08:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i think he's just pointing out that your country is not perfect...that's how this started...


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #828979 - 08/19/02 08:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, no country is perfect. Maybe he should actually do some research before using out of date or inaccurate examples.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #829158 - 08/19/02 10:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, no country is perfect. Maybe he should actually do some research before using out of date or inaccurate examples.

Hmmm... "out of date" ... "old news".... "this happened ten years ago"...

This apparently only counts when Canada is being criticized. But if we're talking about the USA -- whoa! Different story! Everything from Viet Nam to slavery to the killing of Native Americans in the seventeenth century is fair game.

Can we say "hypocrisy"?

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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phred]
    #829577 - 08/20/02 07:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i'm sensing a pattern here


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829581 - 08/20/02 07:23 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Indeed you are.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phred]
    #829596 - 08/20/02 07:31 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You forgot "inaccurate", and "defending nazis".
The guy posted an article complaining that Canada wasn't sending any troops to Afghanistan. We sent some already, the US dropped bombs on them.

The guy posted an article saying that a holocaust denier was being unfairly persecuted, the guy took his case to court and won. His arguments aren't even valid.

In Vietnam hundreds of thousands of people were killed, with slavery, thousands of people were stolen from their homeland to be forced laborours in the US, with the natives, again, hundreds of thousands killed.

With the one out of date incident he mentioned, a few Canadian soldier got beaten up by other Canadian soldiers, and were forced to eat shit. Maybe he also mentioned the incident where some Canadian soldiers beat up a Somali boy. Then our prime minister took a little bit too long to visit the WTC site, who fucking cares, visiting the site didn't bring anyone back anyways. Canada was fairly quick to decide they'd send in troops, the article he posted was published in late september, or october. Finally, he posts about a court case where the guy didn't even lose. Sure, there are things in Canada's history that are actually bad. I'll even post about them if you want, but this retard should look for good examples, not inaccurate and irrelevant ones.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #829616 - 08/20/02 07:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Louis Riel, I'll let you look up that name on your own.


Dudley George: This is a real bad one. The Ontario government still refuses to call an inquest into this guy's death.

http://www.web.net/~inquiry/facts.htm

Japanese internment camps: Yeah, we had 'em too.
http://www.yesnet.yk.ca/schools/projects/canadianhistory/camps/internment1.html

Ukranian Internment Camps: This one is pretty fuckin' shitty.
http://www.infoukes.com/history/internment/

Chinese labour: I can't quickly find anything on this... but it's out there, they worked like slaves on our railroads.

Alberta Sexual Sterilization Act: Forced sterilization of mental patients. There's probably a better link out there for this, find it yourself.
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/justice2000/29mile.html

I'm sure there's more. EvilBastard is just too stupid to find anything good, that's what I could come up with in 10 minutes.


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Phluck]
    #829750 - 08/20/02 08:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

****I'm sure there's more. EvilBastard is just too stupid to find anything good****

there, there..is that anyway for a MOD to act, personal attacks?


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Re: SHAME ON CANADA - FREE SPEECH IN PERIL! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829800 - 08/20/02 09:11 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yes.


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