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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineTheWall
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    #8278069 - 04/13/08 02:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Lately I've been greatly interested in the study of physics.
I have just finished "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene, and I enjoyed it greatly.
Now I'm ready to take it to the next level, because hte book is not very indepth.
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should read next?
appreciate it.

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Re: Physics [Re: TheWall]
    #8278139 - 04/13/08 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)


Thatll cover your classical physics, there are other books people claim are better, Ive never looked at them however.

For electromagnetism, you should probably check out this book
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Electrodynamics-3rd-David-Griffiths/dp/013805326X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208119998&sr=8-2

If you really want to get down though,:
http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Electrodynamics-Third-David-Jackson/dp/047130932X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208119998&sr=8-4

After that move onto quantum:
http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Quantum-Mechanics-R-Shankar/dp/0306447908/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208120234&sr=1-3

I forget how far that textbook goes into the subject, but I remember it being pretty in depth.

After that you now know most physics.  If you want to move on further itll be a lot harder as you will need to know much more math.  The only math you need to know above is calculus and linear algebra, but moving beyond those subjects you need more background.

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Re: Physics [Re: TheCow]
    #8278174 - 04/13/08 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think the OP has any vector calculus, linear algebra or diff eq knowledge.

I would just browse this list for something interesting
http://www.amazon.com/Physics-Science-Books/b/ref=amb_link_15?ie=UTF8&node=14545&pf_rd_p=249350501&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=75&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1YWV3V0K9E56DYN3ESD5




TheCow- I see that you recommend Griffiths for E&M, what about Griffiths for QM?  Our QM class usses Griffiths and Zettili for QM.  I prefer the Griffiths to Zettili, but Im not really impressed with either of them.  Maybe I will buy that Shankar book...

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Re: Physics [Re: DieCommie]
    #8278326 - 04/13/08 03:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would strongly recommend Roger Penrose's The Road to Reality: A Complete Guide to the Laws of the Universe (also wiki's article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Reality). It is perfectly suited for the (very) curious mind. As the title says, it is some kind of freak physics encyclopedia, starting with numbers and logic, going for example through calculus and Fourier decomposition, classical Lagrangian and Hamiltonian classical mechanics, Maxwell's equations, quantum mechanics, quantum fields, relativity and into current problems and theory like unification and quantum gravity.

I don't know if it is really self-contained but it is a big 1100 pages map of contemporary physics and its mathematical tools.

Edited by deimya (04/13/08 03:56 PM)

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Re: Physics [Re: DieCommie]
    #8278431 - 04/13/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not familiar with the Griffiths book. I have that Shankar book and the book by Dirac. I forget really the depth of the Shankar book as I haven't seen it in a year. I remember it being quite good though. Im sure your library has some mad books, so just go and check them out see if you like them

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Re: Physics [Re: TheCow]
    #8278779 - 04/13/08 06:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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TheCow said:

Thatll cover your classical physics, there are other books people claim are better, Ive never looked at them however.

For electromagnetism, you should probably check out this book
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Electrodynamics-3rd-David-Griffiths/dp/013805326X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208119998&sr=8-2

If you really want to get down though,:
http://www.amazon.com/Classical-Electrodynamics-Third-David-Jackson/dp/047130932X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208119998&sr=8-4

After that move onto quantum:
http://www.amazon.com/Principles-Quantum-Mechanics-R-Shankar/dp/0306447908/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208120234&sr=1-3

I forget how far that textbook goes into the subject, but I remember it being pretty in depth.

After that you now know most physics.  If you want to move on further itll be a lot harder as you will need to know much more math.  The only math you need to know above is calculus and linear algebra, but moving beyond those subjects you need more background.



The book seems interesting, but as commie said I dont have linear algerbra, nor calc.
I think I was looking for a book that would hepl me at the level I'm at, and some what slowly incorporate the math into it, so its kinda like a i learn as I go along.
These books look so interesting, but just cant understand them.:confused:

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Re: Physics [Re: TheWall]
    #8282777 - 04/14/08 03:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ah, I dont know what to recommend then really.  You can check out deimya's book see if it develops the math along the way.  Or you can just try learning the math :shrug:  Theres no other way unfortunately

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Re: Physics [Re: TheCow]
    #8282934 - 04/14/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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TheCow said:
Ah, I dont know what to recommend then really.  You can check out deimya's book see if it develops the math along the way.  Or you can just try learning the math :shrug:  Theres no other way unfortunately



Yeah I made my schedule today, and scheduled algebra 2.
Which im guessing wil help out some.
I'll let you know how it works.

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