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The Dangers of Local Hpoo
    #8277029 - 04/13/08 10:00 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I took it upon myself to stray from the normal path of Tennesse studd hpoo and find a local farm. It had sat in a big pile for over a year, and of course had pieces of wood and rocks and such along with it, but i sun dried it and did my best to remove what i could. When i was done it was about 75% poo, 20% wood chips, and 5% rock fragments.

Despite having much success in the past with tennesse studd, replicating the same methods only yielded a mostly colonized monotub with a special shade of green. Seeing as my methods have not changed, and the spawn was given ample time to show any contaminations, the only other variable is that perhaps the wood and rocks in it harbor contaminates are resistant to conventional pasteurization parameters. Anyone have similar experiences?


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8277041 - 04/13/08 10:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

i use to have a problem with compost contaming aftar a whle. instead of 1 hour at 160 i started to do 2-3 hours at 160 and havent seen any problem since


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: grod31]
    #8277064 - 04/13/08 10:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

well, damn, thats probably the best piece of advice ive received on here all year. I typically pasteurize for 90 minutes because i was under the impression that prolonged pasteurization times lead to sterilization, though i dont know if that is correct. I guess i can give my poo one last try.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: grod31]
    #8277075 - 04/13/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

My family owns a ranch and I have plenty of access to all the hpoo, steer and even mule manure I can shovel. We don't use cedar (or any other ground/odor covering) there is no gravel or wood chips in it, only the occasional feed quality straw. I have been putting allot of thought into pasteurizing this stuff and putting it up for sale since there seems to be such a high demand and relatively low supply. As a bonus I know my uncle would love me forever just for getting it out of his way. :grin:


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8277076 - 04/13/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

When I gathered my own hmanure I simply shoveled it into bags from the oldest looking piles, got it home, through it into some trays in the backyard and let it sit for 48 hours then tilted the tray to allow the water to run off, let dry then sifted through while loading into a bucket, when I got it inside I'd run water over the bucket until the water ran clear and reaching in squeezing the hmanure, If i felt any hard objects I'd remove them. squeeze dry it as much as possible and sift through it again.

You can not leave wood chips/rocks in your horse manure that is defiantly where your problem arise.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8277084 - 04/13/08 10:23 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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the only other variable is that perhaps the wood and rocks in it





what about wormers and other chemical agents, know what they feed the horses?


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8277111 - 04/13/08 10:31 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The horses are all thoroughbred and used for barrel racing or Stud services, they are well taken care of and fed oats, grains and supplemented with feed quality straw. No worm meds that I know of, they are frequently inspected by a vet and so well taken care of I don't think any of them have ever had a case of worms. I would have to ask my uncle to be sure.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8277114 - 04/13/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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the only other variable is that perhaps the wood and rocks in it





what about wormers and other chemical agents, know what they feed the horses?




no idea, i had to get it under the guise that i was growing plants. What would deworming agent do to a grow? Because the problem seems to be contamination, not necessarily that the mycellium is having any trouble colonizing it.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8277140 - 04/13/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Oh sorry, I wasn't paying attention and thought that question was directed at me, didn't mean to step on you. Anyway, I'm not gonna invest the time and energy into processing the manure unless I get a positive response from the community in support of the idea. I apologize again for not being awake enough to see that question wasn't meant for me.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8277337 - 04/13/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 9 months ago)

fuck it, i just took a really close look at it and its like 50% wood shavings, even if it did work id only get 1/2 the nutrients per weight out of it, not to mention its not even compost, just plain manure. I guess i should have titled this, "The Dangers of Being Cheap".


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: poof]
    #8278490 - 04/13/08 04:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

The wood chips may also be cedar which has a natual anti-fungal nature to it. I have about 50 lbs of that stuff that I need to dump because its worthless.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: Nerotik]
    #8278736 - 04/13/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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The horses are all thoroughbred and used for barrel racing or Stud services, they are well taken care of and fed oats, grains and supplemented with feed quality straw. No worm meds that I know of, they are frequently inspected by a vet and so well taken care of I don't think any of them have ever had a case of worms. I would have to ask my uncle to be sure.





prime examples of animals that will be given wormers and stuff regularly


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8278808 - 04/13/08 06:15 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

I do 15 to 16 pounds of poo at a time and did not have much luck until I used a meat thermo and stuck in the middle of the shit and found that after 3 hours at 160 it still was not up to temp. Now I do it for 4 hours and that always does my 16 pounders with no problems. Check your core temp.


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Re: The Dangers of Local Hpoo [Re: thedoc8]
    #8278838 - 04/13/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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I do 15 to 16 pounds of poo at a time and did not have much luck until I used a meat thermo and stuck in the middle of the shit and found that after 3 hours at 160 it still was not up to temp. Now I do it for 4 hours and that always does my 16 pounders with no problems. Check your core temp.




Thats pretty key.

We pasteurize for about 5 hours for this reason.


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