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thejesset
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Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way!
#8267083 - 04/10/08 11:25 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello, and thanks in advance for any kind souls that can help me out.
Ive been reading about growing fungi for, on and off, a few years. I know the lingo and Im pretty well researched in the many methods of growing, but have yet to operate. The PF tek seems simple and effective, but I am looking for high yields.
The Bulk Teks I have read here on the shroomery seem to explain the basics, but they do no seem detailed enough, for a novice, from absolute beginning to end.
What I am looking for is DETAILED & EXACT directions, without use of a pressure cooker, from the moment one receives spores to the moment they are ready for harvest -&- How to prepare jars in relation to how much substance to use in inoculation. And so forth.
Is it necessary to use a clone when growing bulk?
Also, I recall reading a pretty good bulk tek using worm casting on Sporeworks a few years back. If anyone has a copy of this, please reply or PM.
Thanks sooooooo much, again, in advance.
Peace.
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: thejesset]
#8267090 - 04/10/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmm sound like you still need to keep reading... al of that is covered, not trying to be a prick but UTSF
Time frames differ from posted depending on environment you and god, to get a clone you must grow a mushroom first, Nothing here is really detailed and EXACT
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: P.Menace]
#8267106 - 04/10/08 11:30 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Start with the PF cakes and work you way up...
You have got to craw, before you can run..
What you read and what really happens will not be the same...
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: thejesset]
#8267111 - 04/10/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Start small and work your way up. You don't want to make "bulk" mistakes. and yes Use The Search Function. Search Monotub or Bulk grow.
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Brainiac]
#8267116 - 04/10/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'd start with mycobags and just casing the grains, maybe not bulk but still decent yield and near impossible to fuck up
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: doitagain]
#8267126 - 04/10/08 11:34 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
doitagain said: i'd start with mycobags and just casing the grains, maybe not bulk but still decent yield and near impossible to fuck up
start with PF, get a nice clone then do this
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: P.Menace]
#8267217 - 04/10/08 11:51 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#8267242 - 04/10/08 11:55 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's a good way to start out.Like I did ten years ago..
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Brainiac]
#8267287 - 04/11/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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WOW! Thanks for the quick replies!
I will mull over this and be back tomorrow. Thanks!
BTW- I don't think your a prick... asshole. JK.
Edited by thejesset (04/11/08 12:07 AM)
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Brainiac]
#8267295 - 04/11/08 12:07 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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P.S. you cannot do a bulk grow with no pressure cooker! All of the posts linked by doc penguin will be useless until you have a PC. I agree that PF is not necessarily the starting point for everyone, but its the only method that really doesn't require a pressure cooker.
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Edited by 81Renaissance (04/11/08 12:08 AM)
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: 81Renaissance]
#8267317 - 04/11/08 12:11 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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To be truly serious about mycology you must own a pressure cooker... I think Tahoe said that
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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: 81Renaissance]
#8267509 - 04/11/08 12:51 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
81Renaissance said: P.S. you cannot do a bulk grow with no pressure cooker! All of the posts linked by doc penguin will be useless until you have a PC. I agree that PF is not necessarily the starting point for everyone, but its the only method that really doesn't require a pressure cooker.
You can spawn to bulk with BRF cakes quite effectively. Steam sterilization is fine since you wouldn't be working with grains.
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Manicc]
#8270432 - 04/11/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: 81Renaissance]
#8364850 - 05/05/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I disagree about soley suggesting PF TEK for Newbs. I am no pro mycologist myself but I do consider myself versed enuf as a amatuer and have enough grows under my belt to say personally, the PF TEK is not worth the trouble to get barely any yield and put in more work than using grain and spawning to bulk...
Personally IMO the PF TEK is really an out dated method thats not really good for growing period, it is no easier than using grains, actually some say it is harder to prep. I totally skipped it and went to cases and finally did try it one time with a friend newb who was totally dead set on using that TEK since like everyone else that is where HE was told to start.
It sucked and with 20 jars he barely had a yield worth the trouble and time, waste of a syringe also IMO ...considering what the same needle was capable of producing with another method most of the spores end up as garbage.
I think with all the good relevent info here from growing bulk either in a Monotub or Shotgun FC or some similar method the PF TEK should finally be retired and no longer suggested as the choice for beginners, other than showing the basic mushroom growth cycle it has little to offer in way of teaching and doesnt even touch on other mushroom related techniques like casing and or bulk.
Then you one day realise you can break them up and do those things with cakes by reading about it somewhere else but youd never learn that stuff in the PF TEK. By then youd be ready to just do those things with grain.
JMHO I am in no way qualified to hand the PF TEK its gravestone I just think it is an outdated and pretty labourous TEK with little benefit and results....but still I would definitely suggest you start here in your quest
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to read about your choices and do some research. You wouldnt believe the info I have found here in this one single link... Trust me everything is there in that one spot and it will NEVER let you down.
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: thejesset]
#23855202 - 11/21/16 06:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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roadkill's poo tek has always been swims fav
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Re: Beginner looking for an all encompassing Bulk Tek... HELP point the way! [Re: Moon Wolf]
#23855207 - 11/21/16 06:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't bump 8 year old threads and don't use SWIM.
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