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Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb.
    #8257368 - 04/08/08 09:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm looking at the prices, I can get a 750GB harddrive with 16mb cache for about $130 USD. For about $170-180 I can get a 750GB w/ 32mb cache. Now the seek/write speeds are almost the same, different less than .1ms each, and both drives are 7200rpm.

What I'm wondering is does that 32mb make THAT big of a difference? And in what ways? Where will I see the improvement? Right now I basically do data storage, and these drives will probably end up mainly being used for data and anime storage. Is it necessary to get the 32mb? Or will it mainly show improvement in loading programs?

Another thing to think about is I'm planning on getting a small (around 50-100gb) 10,000RPM drive for all my programs and the operating system.

What do you think? I'm looking forward to your opinions!

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Maverick]
    #8257397 - 04/08/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

probably wont notice a difference. not enough difference to compensate for the cost.

short answer:

go with the cheaper one.

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8258631 - 04/09/08 04:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> probably wont notice a difference. not enough difference to compensate for the cost.

Agree.


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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Maverick]
    #8258800 - 04/09/08 06:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

16mb is already pretty huge for a home computer HDD...32mb would probably just be silly!


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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Maverick]
    #8259413 - 04/09/08 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Why compromise if you don't have to?

Review: Samsung Spinpoint F1 HDDs: New Winners?

Order: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s - $130 shipped

Like everyone else said, you're unlikely to notice much of a difference if you're just using the drive for mass storage, but the cache could come in handy for media encoding and other I/O-intensive operations.

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Ythan]
    #8261330 - 04/09/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:laugh:

or just wait for solid states to be mass produced..

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8261420 - 04/09/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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drkrobotnik said:
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or just wait for solid states to be mass produced..




And affordable, lol.

HDD is about $0.17 per GB

Solid state is still in the $50-100 per GB


But its dropping all the time, and when its standard, its going be awesome.


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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #8261485 - 04/09/08 07:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well yes assumed on the affordable..

they are not going to mass produce them until they are first affordable.

although i believe that new thin mac ipaper or some gay shit like that has one.. i think it's like 3200 bucks though.

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8263155 - 04/10/08 04:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> or just wait for solid states to be mass produced..

They are already being mass produced. Apple is buying them up faster than the factories can spit them out.

> they are not going to mass produce them until they are first affordable.

I'm not great with economics, but I remember the law of supply and demand. You might want to review it. It is demand that drives production, not consumer price points. It is a combination of supply and demand that determines the consumer price point.


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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Seuss]
    #8264085 - 04/10/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Seuss said:
It is demand that drives production, not consumer price points. It is a combination of supply and demand that determines the consumer price point.




ok you're not schooling me on anything here, buddy.

and i think the term you are looking for is 'market equilibrium' not 'consumer price point'

lolz and they aren't going to supply them in mass quantities until the demand is high, which it is not currently.

nobody is going to pay 200 dollars for an 8 gigabyte solid state hard drive.. or thousands for the 64 gig.

unless they are buying that little thin mac book thing.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air

look at the difference in prices here.

dont come at me with some economics shit..

there would be no demand because you can get sata/pata now tons cheaper and i dont think there is really that much of a difference in technology to justify the added cost.

and i think you and i have different definitions of 'mass production'

if apple is the only one buying solid states, that doesn't sound like mass production or profit maximizing or meeting consumer demand, it sounds like a monopsony.

and that means that apple can charge whatever they want for these laptops. price is a good indicator of demand in our society, at least with technology in my opinion.

if there were more sellers, then there could be more competition and that would drive prices down to the market equilibrium.

i might not know everything about economics, but i think i explained it ok.

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8279081 - 04/13/08 07:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I went with the 16mb. :smile:  Thank you everyone for your input you saved me almost 100 dollars!

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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8280905 - 04/14/08 04:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> ok you're not schooling me on anything here, buddy.

I can't help it if you are too arrogant to learn, nor am I going to waste my time trying to help you.


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Re: Harddrive Cache: 16mb vs 32mb. [Re: Seuss]
    #8283141 - 04/14/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have a 16mb and a 32mb cache hdd in my one computer right now, both hooked up to sataII ports, and using everest to benchmark, the 32mb cache performed much better. Now if this turns into real world results is beyond me.

Here is the pic of the benchmark



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