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OfflineBacon Bits
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Problem with the girlfriend
    #8254283 - 04/08/08 05:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I know there have been plenty of these girlfriend posts, but I couldn't find one that was similar to my situation. Im really at a loss here.

Ive been with this girl for quite some time and I love her very much. Before we were dating, I told her about my first trip and she thought it was fascinating but disapproved. Shes very very anti-drug/cigarettes and only this year started to moderately drink. I recently decided to have a trip and knew that there is no way I could tell her without her freaking out on me. Well, lo and behold she found out today from a friends stupid facebook message that was left open. She called me crying and was very upset that I tripped. We've discussed this so many times and I have told her that mushrooms are not a horrible drug, but she refuses to looks past all the bullshit propaganda that she was raised on. I told her all the facts on how they aren't addictive, are safe when used responsibly, and how you can gain so much insight from them.

Even though she said she wants me to tell her if I'm going to take some, she tells me she will never accept them. And that this entire interest makes me distant from her. I just find it so frustrating because I love what I have gotten out of shrooms, but at the same time I don't want to have this secret life from her. Should I just not trip anymore because I don't want to ruin this wonderful relationship. This is the only issue we have had...haha it's like I know the answer already, but I want to refuse it. I could easily do it on my own time without her knowing, but its wrong. She told me that I make the choices and she can't stop me or force me to change, but I know her stance on it. So she has pretty much said it's either her or mushrooms. Gah!


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8254285 - 04/08/08 05:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ya man dam bitchs can be so nonunderstanding
jus trip and dun tell that ho


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Coaster]
    #8254288 - 04/08/08 05:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thats what i do. Ive had a few close calls with my friends doing similar things. I don't like hiding it, but as a drug user ive gotten used to hiding it from people close to me.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8254289 - 04/08/08 05:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

There is no reasoning with people so shut out from the truth, if she's not willing to accept you for who you are.. then so be it. There are more fish in the sea.

I don't really see a relationship like this working if you both can't come to a middle ground. Sorry if this isn't the answer you're looking for, just my opinion.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Darkstrand]
    #8254308 - 04/08/08 06:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if tripping is going to be a part of your life for a long time, then it does seem like your going to have to choose. sure, you can hide it 98% of the time. but there will be those times where she will catch you. and it wont be good. seems like your gonna have to make a decision now.

that being said, im really lucky my girl loves tripping.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8254324 - 04/08/08 06:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hey there,

This shouldn't be a "her or the mushrooms" situation. A strong and loving relationship should have room for a difference or two like this.

Have you given your girlfriend some literature to read? Perhaps something outside of the lists of reasons why mushrooms aren't harmful, maybe Gordon Wasson's "Seeking the Magic Mushroom" article that appeared in LIFE magazine (see: http://www.imaginaria.org/wasson/life.htm). This is an incredibly mystical and solid article that may intrigue her.

Our culture teaches us to fear things that are outside of everyday convention. Your girlfriend has been conditioned to feel and react this way to mushrooms; it isn't a rational response. So, you need to work through the situation in a creative way to get past those cultural barriers.

Good luck. I hope this doesn't end what sounds like a great relationship. I, personally, wouldn't give up my own explorations because of any boyfriend.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: littlebirdie]
    #8254386 - 04/08/08 07:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Who is she to get upset with you for taking mushrooms? Its your life, your choice. She has absolutely no say whatsoever. She has every right to voice her opinion, but thats as far as it goes. The issue should be over once you tell her that it is something you love to do. DO NOT compromise your life or the things you enjoy for a female, no matter how much you love them. If a girl tells you that you have to give up something to be with them, then she is no girl for you my friend. There was a girl I cared very much for a few years back, but then she gave me an ultimatum and said it was either her or marijuana. Guess what; Im still smoking. Trust me, Ive been through many relationships and can give sound advice on this: If someone loves you, they will not ask you to give up something you love. Let her know that you are going to continue doing what you do, if she doesnt like it, then thats her problem. You shouldnt have to explain more than once. What can she do, leave you? If so, fuck it. It will be her loss. You gotta live your life man, the point of life is being happy, if something holds you back from that, you have to cut it off. good luck


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: littlebirdie]
    #8254774 - 04/08/08 11:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey there,

This shouldn't be a "her or the mushrooms" situation. A strong and loving relationship should have room for a difference or two like this.

Good luck. I hope this doesn't end what sounds like a great relationship. I, personally, wouldn't give up my own explorations because of any boyfriend.




I agree with this. You should be able to tell her you're going to trip when you're going to trip, and it should be her call whether or not she wants to exposer herself to it. Differences are going to show in a relationship, and if you can't get through them, it probably isn't meant to be.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: littlebirdie]
    #8254802 - 04/08/08 11:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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littlebirdie said:
Hey there,

This shouldn't be a "her or the mushrooms" situation. A strong and loving relationship should have room for a difference or two like this.

Have you given your girlfriend some literature to read? Perhaps something outside of the lists of reasons why mushrooms aren't harmful, maybe Gordon Wasson's "Seeking the Magic Mushroom" article that appeared in LIFE magazine (see: http://www.imaginaria.org/wasson/life.htm). This is an incredibly mystical and solid article that may intrigue her.

Our culture teaches us to fear things that are outside of everyday convention. Your girlfriend has been conditioned to feel and react this way to mushrooms; it isn't a rational response. So, you need to work through the situation in a creative way to get past those cultural barriers.

Good luck. I hope this doesn't end what sounds like a great relationship. I, personally, wouldn't give up my own explorations because of any boyfriend.





exactly..she needs some different input...the previous input from her peers and propaganda has always been negative due to the stigma from the 'sit on your head' substances give you...google some interesting things about the mushrooms and the psychedelic trip itself...show her it's not about escaping and numbing, it's about feeling new things, and getting into to new thoughts...you are the fisherman in the sea of new ideas...


edit: my girlfriend hates me being on the computer haha like seriously hates it....and she despises the forums and video games I play


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bend the Bong]
    #8254838 - 04/08/08 12:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

IME, if someone isn't chill with drugs, chances are they're not someone I especially want to hang out with because drugs, especially psychedelics, are an integral part of my self-identity. If they aren't down with drugs, they can't be down with me. I'd personally never date a chic who wasn't chill. If she wants you to choose between shrooms and her, I'd break it off with her ASAP bc you do NOT want to be involved with a chic who's going to pull that kind of shit.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8254856 - 04/08/08 12:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I say propose to her the idea of her being with you while you trip. That way it doesn't force her to take something she doesn't like (which would possibly result in a bad trip), and she'll see you're not running around chasing pink elephants while screaming maniacally and foaming from the mouth.

Tell her that you don't want to make her do something she doesn't want to do, but you want her to know that you're being safe and responsible about it.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: citricacidx]
    #8254882 - 04/08/08 12:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think I could date someone who didn't share in that moment - not that I don't have friends who don't do any drugs, I do - just that an intimate relationship should be just that - intimate. I feel like tripping is such a personal experience, whoever your dating should want to be a part of the experience.

That's how I feel about it for myself.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: WaterNymph]
    #8255061 - 04/08/08 01:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'd date a women who wasn't down with substances even thought the psychedelic ones have become important to me...that is their choice, but if they were against me having any part of it than I may have to reconsider...


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: citricacidx]
    #8255101 - 04/08/08 01:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I say propose to her the idea of her being with you while you trip. That way it doesn't force her to take something she doesn't like (which would possibly result in a bad trip), and she'll see you're not running around chasing pink elephants while screaming maniacally and foaming from the mouth.




Ugh... good idea in principle but IMO this would just lead to her giving an overall bad vibe to the trip... by constantly making disparaging comments about how drugs or bad, or even by obsessively worrying about the OP's safety, tripping with another sober person who's actively anti-tripping just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: deCypher]
    #8255196 - 04/08/08 02:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This bitch is just jealous that she's too afraid to go where you clearly have no problems going.

As everyone else said, FUCK THAT SHIT, HER LOSS, THERE ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL KINDS OF BITCHES, BROTHER.

In fact, there are ALLLLLLLL kinds of lovely women who AREN'T stupid silly bitches. TONS OF 'EM!!!! AND THEY'RE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW!!!

THEY'RE WAITIN' FOR YOU MAN!!

FUCKIN... THEY'RE WAITIN FOR ME TOO!!!! I NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUTSIDE! RIGHT NOW! YOU TOO! LETS GO!


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: deCypher]
    #8255218 - 04/08/08 02:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, thanks everyone for your input.

First I want to say that I'm not a big time tripper; I probably do it once a month or every couple months, but that doesn't mean I want it out of my life completely.

I think my game plan is going to be this:

- wait a little while for her emotions to die down. She was pretty upset yesterday and I know that if I make any mention about it now, she'll be even more upset.

- I'm going to then bring up how I want to have a trip. It helps focus my life and it brings me more appreciation for the world. I'll tell her that it's not right for her to stop me. If she truly loves me then she will be able to accept this as something I love. I will attempt to show her that article that littlebirdie suggested and possibly other things. I just need her to realize that I'm still the same person and this drug is not a monstrous thing. Loving someone means to accept them for who they are. I can understand if you want to help someone that is abusing drugs, but to try and stop someone from doing something they love that clearly hasn't had a single negative affect on them is just wrong.

- If she decides she can't except that at all, then so be it. I think if the time comes for her to decide the fate of my relationship with her, she'll realize what she will be losing because I enjoy a harmless activity.

What really irks me is the fact that her one roommate smokes pot everyday to fall asleep, wake up, or just for the hell of it. And even though my gf hates pot, even though she disapproves of her friend smoking, she still has the same relationship that she did before she smoked. She still cares for her and ignores her habit. And her best friend now smokes cigarettes, and she hates this, but again, she still loves her dearly. She wants her to stop, but still accepts her.

Why does it have to be different with me! Is she trying to protect me? Does she feel like she has more power to change my habits than she does with her two friends? I think that might be a big factor there.

So if I can give her things to read (even though she probably won't) and I tell her that I'm not going to stop something that is so important to me because she is afraid that I will be hurt or move on to tougher drugs, then maybe she'll come around. That's all I can do at this point.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255229 - 04/08/08 02:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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What really irks me is the fact that her one roommate smokes pot everyday to fall asleep, wake up, or just for the hell of it. And even though my gf hates pot, even though she disapproves of her friend smoking, she still has the same relationship that she did before she smoked. She still cares for her and ignores her habit. And her best friend now smokes cigarettes, and she hates this, but again, she still loves her dearly. She wants her to stop, but still accepts her.

Why does it have to be different with me! Is she trying to protect me? Does she feel like she has more power to change my habits than she does with her two friends? I think that might be a big factor there.





This right here should be enough for you to tell her to piss off, dude.

I don't know how old you are, I don't know how attractive and smooth with the ladies you are, but this right here is BS.

If she can let her bitch do whatever, and try to give you shit, it's because she wants you to be what she wants, not what you want. And that kinda shit is what makes people end up on fucking divorce court on public television.

You wanna be on fucking Judge Lynn fucking ass hat Taylor? I didn't think so brother.

Girls are conniving little fucking cunts, dripping in steamy wet INSECURITY, and lathered in a sugary coating of nasty, nasty JEALOUSY. And your bitch isn't even doing a good job of hiding it, bro.

FIND ANOTHER VAG. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR!


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255235 - 04/08/08 02:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

bitches come and go the drugs are here for life. :awesome:


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #8255259 - 04/08/08 02:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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This right here should be enough for you to tell her to piss off, dude.

I don't know how old you are, I don't know how attractive and smooth with the ladies you are, but this right here is BS.




I'm 20 and obviously lacking any major relationship experience. This is the first big one I've been in. But I think you're right. She's just trying to change me to her liking. Sigh.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #8255284 - 04/08/08 02:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If she has a problem with you tripping after you talk to her I would tell her to fuck off, and break up with her. Tripping is a big part of my life and if anyone tried telling me I couldn't do it I would be pretty pissed. My girl doesn't usually trip, she does sometimes, but not usually. So what I do is I just wait until she goes to bed before I trip. It gives me some nice time to myself and I don't have to worry about being around other people.

I know that if your girl doesn't quite approve with your tripping it has got to play hell with your trip especially if you are sneaking around. I know sneaking a trip would totally put me in a bad place.

Talk to her and tell her the facts if she still has a problem tell her to fuck off. Things are easy now. From what it sounds like you don't live together and she isn't pregnant yet. So do yourself a favor before it is too late. Once you move in with each other breaking up is alot harder because it involves moving and splitting up shit. Then she gets pregnant and you gotta worry about child support. I wish I would have taken the advice I am giving when it was given to me.

Good Luck

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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255534 - 04/08/08 04:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Bacon Bits said:
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Ell Ess Bree said:
This right here should be enough for you to tell her to piss off, dude.

I don't know how old you are, I don't know how attractive and smooth with the ladies you are, but this right here is BS.




I'm 20 and obviously lacking any major relationship experience. This is the first big one I've been in. But I think you're right. She's just trying to change me to her liking. Sigh.




man since your only 20, im gonna say your more than likely not head over heels in love with her. if she is still irrational after a few days even weeks, then it may be time to call it quits. bitches are crazy and they will seriously hold it against you forever. hiding it from her will only make your relationship stupid stressful or trying to convince her is just going to piss her off. play it by ear man, if shit gets bad/crazy/stressful, get out.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: smokeybear]
    #8255826 - 04/08/08 05:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

She told me a couple weeks ago in a message, before the big blowout:

"I know you won't abuse it, or you don't ever want to abuse it, you think it's fascinating and cool to try again. To me, it's unnecessary and unreal. You will use it, and have an amazing time with whoever you tried it with, come back and tell me about it, but will I ever understand it? I dont want to say no to the fact that you want to try it because I hate to make you into who I think you should be, I love you for who you are. But I will never be able to understand this. and when I don't understand it I feel distant, it's human nature. I want you to tell me about it either way. and I appreciate you asking me about it."

The way she responded to me on the phone was opposite of what she said here. It was probably just in the heat of the moment. I should have told her I tripped, but I didn't want to cause upset because I hid it from her. It bit me in the ass yesterday. So I think I can talk to her again and make her understand how I feel.

I'm sorry for bugging you all with this. It's something I've never been through and by writing this out to you guys, my mind is clearing up and I feel a lot better about it. I also appreciate all your opinions. Thanks everyone :smile:


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255840 - 04/08/08 05:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Good, now FUCK HER IN THE FACE for being such a tight cunt.
















KIDDING!
























Maybe.....







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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255846 - 04/08/08 05:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well i think that you should continue to trip because there is so many girls out there that will be understanding. when i heard that my boyfriend did drugs i was concerned too but i realized that drugs are a part of opening the mind and experiencing the different effects of that drug.Also a lot of my girl friends don't except it either,but i say you knew i did drugs when we met so if you don't like it the door is over there.

so i say keep on tripping and some day you will meet some one that excepts it.

also you don't need to tell her if your going to trip because that will probably ruin the trip because you will be worried about what she thinks.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: salvia queen]
    #8255898 - 04/08/08 05:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think the fact that you hid it for her is what caused her to react the way she did. She seemed to be at least moderately tolerant of your drug use. However, when it became this secret that you kept from her, she felt hurt. She mentioned the fact you were tripping made her feel distant. When you add to this that you're tripping behind her back after she asked you to tell her, it makes her feel even more distant. It seemed like she tried to meet you half way. She just wants to feel at least semi-included in a portion of your life that she does not understand. For you to do it without her knowledge just made her feel even less included in a part of your life that you hold in high esteem.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: satyr]
    #8255916 - 04/08/08 05:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Who is she to get upset with you for taking mushrooms? Its your life, your choice. She has absolutely no say whatsoever. She has every right to voice her opinion, but thats as far as it goes. The issue should be over once you tell her that it is something you love to do. DO NOT compromise your life or the things you enjoy for a female, no matter how much you love them. If a girl tells you that you have to give up something to be with them, then she is no girl for you my friend. There was a girl I cared very much for a few years back, but then she gave me an ultimatum and said it was either her or marijuana. Guess what; Im still smoking.




I don't have much new to add, as I agree with most of the people here, but that post reminded me of this quote:

"Women get involved with a man with the idea that they can change the man for the better. Men get involved with women with the idea that they never will change. The reality is that women change and men will never change."


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Quotation]
    #8255924 - 04/08/08 05:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the fact that you hid it for her is what caused her to react the way she did. She seemed to be at least moderately tolerant of your drug use. However, when it became this secret that you kept from her, she felt hurt. She mentioned the fact you were tripping made her feel distant. When you add to this that you're tripping behind her back after she asked you to tell her, it makes her feel even more distant. It seemed like she tried to meet you half way. She just wants to feel at least semi-included in a portion of your life that she does not understand. For you to do it without her knowledge just made her feel even less included in a part of your life that you hold in high esteem.




I think you're absolutely right. I haven't tripped after that talk, I just didn't tell her about that one recent time. I didn't expect her to find out and thought that we could start fresh. So I suppose I too am at fault for breaking her trust. I apologized for this and she has accepted that. She may be willing to meet me half way again, who knows.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8255977 - 04/08/08 06:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Kickle]
    #8256029 - 04/08/08 06:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You should just talk to her and see if you can come to an agreement or just to a point where she will accept what you do. She seemed to be at that point, but you made a mistake. As long as she can forgive you for that, you might be able to gain her trust again. Good luck man.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8256783 - 04/08/08 09:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you were talking about my ex for a second.


As someone that has been your exact same shoes, I ended up breaking up with my g.f of 3 years over weed and shrooms.

Like someone else said, there shouldn't be an argument. You do what you do, and if she can't accept that, you need to find someone that can. The secret life thing doesn't ever work, trust me I know.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: MindGorilla]
    #8256978 - 04/08/08 09:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yup yup shouldn't be any argument, I've gotten into this one over drinking.  Broke up because of a similar situation, can't stand other people trying to change me! :cool:


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8257025 - 04/08/08 10:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ugh. some girls just dont get it.
dose her, she'll get it.
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but seriously, that sucks. good luck working it out.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: chemical burn]
    #8257086 - 04/08/08 10:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

ps

not all girls are jealous, insecure controlling cunts. not all girls are inherently bitches who want to grasp your balls with an iron fist of puritan rule.

some of us Vagina's are chill. as fuck.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8257124 - 04/08/08 10:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I think my game plan is going to be this:

- I'm going to then bring up how I want to have a trip. It helps focus my life and it brings me more appreciation for the world.




Yeah, well...just remember that what you are discussing and admitting to is illegal. Women (girls) SAY (and DO) stupid things, and this pissing contest might lead to just the wrong person learning about your recreational use of psychoactive mushrooms.

If I were you, I'd keep the discussion to a minimum, allow the whole matter to fade into the background, and eventually, a new, more appropriatly tolerant female will enter your life from whom you will not need to hide your use.

A woman scorned has the potential to turn into an evil, destructive, vindictive thing! You do not want to go to jail or even risk parental bust over this trivial (and it really is) relationship issue. My $.02
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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: WaterNymph]
    #8257138 - 04/08/08 10:27 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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not all girls are inherently bitches who want to grasp your balls with an iron fist of puritan rule.




This sentence made me LOL. :thumbup:


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: deCypher]
    #8257460 - 04/08/08 11:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

almost the same exact problem as you bacon bits, i swear i could repost this exact thread!

it took me a long time to realize that my ex was trying to make me what she wanted to be... and once i figured that out i became more of an independent person that realised a lot more shit about how dependent i was and how easily influenced, etc, that i was.

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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8257559 - 04/08/08 11:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I was in a similar situation. No, it doesn't have to be one or the other, but moderating yourself more than you normally would might need to happen.

One thing is for sure, if you push the issue of how amazing they are, or, god forbid, offer her some, you will get nowhere. Just carry on. My ex was the same way, but she eventually didn't mind so much, and nearly dropped acid once herself.

Just tread carefully around the issue.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #8260022 - 04/09/08 04:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Good advice guys. I'm going to lay low for a bit as it's now finals so she'll be stressed like crazy. When school starts this summer, I'll bring it up and have a good level headed talk about it. And as for her saying that she feels distanced, she only senses this because she is refusing to understand something, or even try to understand something. I don't get it. So I'll lay it out how it is. Let her know that she can't change who I am and if she loves me then she'll accept it. If not...well many of you have already gone down that road. But I'll try to keep it positive and not make her feel like an ass. Even though she is being one.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8260341 - 04/09/08 05:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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If she has a problem with you tripping after you talk to her I would tell her to fuck off, and break up with her. Tripping is a big part of my life and if anyone tried telling me I couldn't do it I would be pretty pissed. My girl doesn't usually trip, she does sometimes, but not usually. So what I do is I just wait until she goes to bed before I trip. It gives me some nice time to myself and I don't have to worry about being around other people.

I know that if your girl doesn't quite approve with your tripping it has got to play hell with your trip especially if you are sneaking around. I know sneaking a trip would totally put me in a bad place.

Talk to her and tell her the facts if she still has a problem tell her to fuck off. Things are easy now. From what it sounds like you don't live together and she isn't pregnant yet. So do yourself a favor before it is too late. Once you move in with each other breaking up is alot harder because it involves moving and splitting up shit. Then she gets pregnant and you gotta worry about child support. I wish I would have taken the advice I am giving when it was given to me.

Good Luck

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Hit that nail on the head.

Dump the bitch.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Glassjaw]
    #8260454 - 04/09/08 06:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Just tell her when you decide to trip and make it clear to her that she is the one distancing herself, not the other way around.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: battleconvention]
    #8263098 - 04/10/08 05:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'll update this thread after I talk to her.

But for now, I will be sending out good vibes to you all. Thanks for the advice.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8263209 - 04/10/08 07:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i'm not so concerned about her wanting to change you or keep you off drugs, i'm way more concerned that she's not at all interested in them after doing reading on it.

like mckenna said, someone going through life without psychedelic experience is like going through life without sex. they never quite figured out what was going on.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8263213 - 04/10/08 07:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Bacon Bits]
    #8263470 - 04/10/08 10:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

tell her that basically the same chemicals are used to treat drug addiction.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8263784 - 04/10/08 12:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Things like this are why I am single, and will probably remain so until I either A. grow past recreational drug use or B. find someone that accepts it.

The problem I find in a college environment is either women are unaccepting, or the ones that do are whores for drugs, or entirely lacking a common sense filled brain.

My standards are way too high, I just want to meet a girl thats enlightened, not a fiend.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Frosty_Storm]
    #8263800 - 04/10/08 12:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

^I know, right? I'm in the EXACT same situation. I'm not giving up drugs for anyone. I'll just wait until I find a girl who's chill.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8263808 - 04/10/08 12:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Lol I'm glad im not the only one in that boat =D


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Frosty_Storm]
    #8263870 - 04/10/08 12:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

how i see it, if you felt the need to make a internet post about some bitch then it should already be clear that you need to tell her to get lost and find another


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8263897 - 04/10/08 12:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Luckily my girl trips - If she dissaproved and thought less of me i'd sling her.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: Chroniffer]
    #8263922 - 04/10/08 12:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Luckily my girl trips - If she dissaproved and thought less of me i'd sling her.




I'm givin' you 5 shrooms for that word choice alone, brother.

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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8263978 - 04/10/08 01:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

THat's why i have a trouble finding a girlfriend..... many girls around here look down on trippers/stoners.... And the one's that don't are already taken it seems.

It really seems like girls have been alot more distant from me since i started using weed, and mushrooms...only because they discourage it.....

Im just starting now to get a little more attention, because im in an enviroment where everyone doesnt know everything about me.
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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #8264185 - 04/10/08 02:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you boys need to come to my town. this girl's totally down with tripping.


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Re: Problem with the girlfriend [Re: kungpow]
    #8264289 - 04/10/08 03:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You could show her every damn article about the safety and usefulness of mushrooms in the world. It won't be a bit of difference unless she's receptive to the idea. You can try your best to enlighten her, but I wouldn't expect any miracles. Just make sure you show as much respect for her point of view, as you expect her to show for yours.... even though her mind has clearly been polluted by fear of what's foreign to her.


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