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Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens?
    #6437250 - 01/08/07 03:30 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Does anybody have ANY information on cultivation of this amazing species?

Sorry to start a new thread on this but I think it's a very discussion worthy topic.

Here is the information I have so far...

Aeruginascin, a Trimethylammonium Analogue of Psilocybin from the Hallucinogenic Mushroom Inocybe aeruginascens
by Niels Jensen, Jochen Gartz, Hartmut Laatsch

http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~ucoc/laatsch/168_Aeruginascin_col.pdf



Tryptamines as Ligands and Modulators of the Serotonin 5-HT2A Receptor and the Isolation of Aeruginascin from the Hallucinogenic Mushroom Inocybe aeruginascens

http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=973960833&dok_var=d1&dok_ext=pdf&filename=973960833.pdf
http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/diss/2004/jensen/jensen.pdf








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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: fastfred]
    #6437911 - 01/08/07 11:00 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

So does this mushroom not contain psilocybin, just the precursor?


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: strangladesh]
    #6439483 - 01/08/07 08:04 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i think this fungi requires a symbiosis, according to Joshen Gartzs. i also recall hearing about spore and tissue culture being done with success.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: fastfred]
    #6444026 - 01/10/07 01:38 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

If any one has done it it would be Workman, BIO or aaron. ANd the last two arent around anymore.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6445529 - 01/10/07 02:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Workman has informed me that all Inocybe species are mycorrhizal in nature.

So it looks like cultivation would not be easy. Anybody know what trees it grows with?


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: fastfred]
    #6446390 - 01/10/07 06:51 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i thought they were mycorrhizal, i bet you could tissue culture this species. maybe try a spore solution and hardwood seedlings, anythings worth a try?


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: asci]
    #6447199 - 01/10/07 10:49 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i think this fungi requires a symbiosis

Yep, inocybes are mycorrhyzal chances are you will need a tree to get them to fruit.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: fastfred]
    #6447210 - 01/10/07 10:52 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Poplar or willow?

:cool: Both of those species grow really fast and willow for sure roots quickly from cuttings.


Edited by falcon (03/10/08 04:25 PM)


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: falcon]
    #6451130 - 01/12/07 03:27 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Poplar being amazingly easy to fruit off any old wood chips...Unlike the species in question....


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #6453868 - 01/12/07 09:44 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I heard Gartz says the Inocybe experience gives a somewhat different quality of experience compared to most other psilocybin mushrooms.

I would be somewhat skeptikal when I see the molecule. It's a quaternary ammonium salt, will that be able to pass the blood-brain barrier?

EDIT: Whoops, posted too fast, just read the answer in the paper Fastfred posted: it won't.


Edited by hjalmar (01/12/07 09:51 PM)


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: hjalmar]
    #6457531 - 01/14/07 03:55 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i´ve read a few trip reports in German and the trippers claimed that the trip with aeruginascens was their best trip ever!

the cultivation seems nearly impossible but i saw a lot of things which seemed impossible!

Never say never!


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: Entersandman]
    #8102345 - 03/04/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well, it's not supposed to cross the blood brain barrier, but who fuckin knows, right?

i live in florida and i'm pretty sure that those grow all over the place down here.

i don't think they grow on trees, i think they grow in ground where dead trees where previously.

i don't know, they resemble a lot of other mushrooms, and those that they resemble are quite a selection of poisonous ones, so i have no idea.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: YouRMaiNMaN]
    #8105965 - 03/05/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Unless you're very capable with a microscope and have extensive knowledge in the area of ID, I wouldn't try to use an Inocybe collected in the wild. Too dangerous.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: YouRMaiNMaN]
    #8121669 - 03/08/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> i live in florida and i'm pretty sure that those grow all over the place down here.

I don't think so. They are widely distributed but rare.


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Re: Cultivation of Inocybe aeruginascens? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8249369 - 04/07/08 02:26 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I know I'm bumping a month-old thread here, but it would be great if this puppy didn't die yet. I just heard word of this species and am extremely interested in it... I wonder if you can purchase spores anywhere?

Imagine growing a DMTree (newly coined term by yours truly) and having some of those bad boys feeding off the roots...


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