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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: impgl]
#8242490 - 04/05/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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impgl said: lol. oh no's im de first to die!
i dont really care. its just life. we all die.
I bet you would beg for your life if it came down to it. Im sick of you people that think that they would die and be ok with it. You would die begging someone to save you.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242491 - 04/05/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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No way though, dude. He's got a gun AND he doesn't give a fuck! Watch out!
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Mojo_Risin]
#8242514 - 04/05/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn it i cant stand not saying this. All of you people so willing to "accept the change" just dont get it. Millions would die of hunger, along with you and your family most likley. I dont care if you know survival stuff. there are people that will kill you for the rabbit you so skillfully trapped. Disease would run rampid, and you would not have any medicine to get better. you could die so very easy from the flu without food, medication, and clean water. What if you are to sick, or hurt to go use your survival skills? what then? No one can help you if everyone needs help to.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Syle]
#8242521 - 04/05/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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adrug said: My family is no more important than your family or George Bush's family, or Joe Schmoe's family down the street, or any other family on earth.
what does that mean in reference to what i said? all i was saying was, those of you who want a collapse, how can you say that if you have a family to fear for? do you honestly not realize what you are saying?
If you'll see my previous posts in this thread you can certainly see where I stand on this matter. I have family and loved ones both young and old and still I want this nation to collapse. It's a certainty that many of my loved ones and probably even I would die and still I want this nation to collapse.
Why/How could a good and moral person say such a thing? I believe that our way of life as it is now is unsustainable indefinitely. Our future is finite and the demise of our current way of life will be of our own design if we continue with the status quo. I also believe that things MUST get worse before they get better because as it is now, people are comfortable enough to just close their eyes to the problems that surround them because very few are immediately effected by any sort of crisis. They simply surround themselves with PS3's, HD TV's and cases of beer as they sit on their plush leather sofas watching the most recent episode of South Park without a care what happens to this world after they're gone.
If I sit here and ride this train to the end, then sure me and my family will survive and lead nice, comfortable and semi-fulfilling lives but what of my grandchildren and their grandchildren? Am I to believe that they will regard their family with any less love than I hold for my own when times of crisis strike?
I believe that pain and suffering is inevitable at this point. It's certainly not inevitable in my lifetime but it surely is inevitable in some distant future.
And to clear things up, I'm not doing anything to actively cause this economic collapse. I'm not trying to hurt my loved ones but if it happens I'd rather it come sooner than later. The longer we wait to turn things around on this planet, the harder it'll be on those that have to face that problem. It's my opinion that nothing will be done until the majority no longer has a choice on whether or not to take action. I believe an economic collapse will force people to rethink their existence, realize the flaws of the old ways and actually try to make things right the next go around.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242522 - 04/05/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's basically what I've been saying.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242555 - 04/05/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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LordOfChaos said: Damn it i cant stand not saying this. All of you people so willing to "accept the change" just dont get it. Millions would die of hunger, along with you and your family most likley. I dont care if you know survival stuff. there are people that will kill you for the rabbit you so skillfully trapped. Disease would run rampid, and you would not have any medicine to get better. you could die so very easy from the flu without food, medication, and clean water. What if you are to sick, or hurt to go use your survival skills? what then? No one can help you if everyone needs help to.
so you want to show me which one of these points i haven't understood? millions will die? sweet, maybe by my bullet. me and mine might die? well no shit, i am but one out of the whole, and we all will rot. i'm that guerrilla that'd kill a man for his food if it meant me eating, too. i've thought about this many times as stated before and i still feel the same.
it's inevitable, society will break down one day. people who live in the delusional world that it won't probably will not make it. hell whos to say anyone will make it but when that day comes i won't be scared. i can promise you that if every other man on this continent lost his wits i would not, yesterday isn't shit. better your present and protect your future.
thats all i can say.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242561 - 04/05/08 01:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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13eetleJuice said: I don't have to run to the hills. I'm here now. I own my own land so I can't be evicted and I've got enough guns & ammo & family that nobody can take my land from me short of a small army. I truly do not give a fuck.
As far as food goes, I've raised gardens before and there's enough deer around here to feed a small nation. I guess I'm in that one percentile.
do you think no one is going to come take it from you? People will take what you have, then move on to the next place. you will not get to keep what you have now. don't think that people will respect your property and rights. They will take what they need if you have it, and kill you if you get in their way.
I live in a very close knit community where people still look out for their neighbors and regard them as family. There are ten or fifteen families that surround me and we've all known one another for forty-plus years. We'll band together and make do the best we can. Granted they're all mostly a bunch of beer drinking hicks but I believe that we stand a better chance than most.
Murderous looters would have a tough time taking from us. They'll seek out the weak first, then go after those that have the most resources but I'm in a rather remote location here. There's no cable here, no high speed internet of any kind. I'm still on dial-up for fuck's sake. When I say I'm in the sticks, I mean it.
But all this talk about me personally is all irrelevant as I said before. I'm certain that I represent a VERY small percentage of the population. I agree that most would die very quickly and all out neighborhood wars would break out amongst those that were left as they fight against one another to survive. Untold numbers of years would pass before people could finally band together and start to recover and rebuild. That's the way I see it at least.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: zSDMF]
#8242657 - 04/05/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just lol. some people have a ego so big they think they are gods.
If somthing like this ever happens it would be horrible. Some would survive and some would not. The jackass that stated he was that fucker who would kill people for their food only proved my point. Survivalist would gather food, then some jackass like that would take it and kill them. Then someone would kill the jackass for the food he took, and it would be chaos, not living, not surviving. you would not survive, you are not better than any other person out there that would do damn near anything to feed his kids. You and your ego would die like most of the world. you think you are the only one with sense? You would be killed trying to take food from someone no doubt. the only people that would have a chance are the people that banded together and tried to survive that way. But then, there are always people stronger than they are, and they would take what you have.
There would be no " i have a gun and i dont care" people alive. You would die just as quick as most. If the rest of the world around you was lucky, you would get the flu and die drowning in your own fluids begging for some help from the people you took food from. Fat chance there.
It would be a horrible thing. some would survive, some wouldnt. Skill would count for little, and luck would be everything. You couldnt prepare for something like this, because the best laid plans get fucked up as soon as you set them in motion.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242721 - 04/05/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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well when it happens i won't be scared to do what i have to do until i die. and you're god damn right i'd kill you if it ensured me one more meal and one more day. see just like i proved a point to you, you did the same for me. we're too pussified for our own good. what animal readily hesitates to pounce in nature when threatned.. except humans? not too many. i think we forget at the end of the day that we're just animals who live and die
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242757 - 04/05/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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and you call it ego, i call it drive. i don't want to die, in fact i want to live and succeed. you do what you gotta do, you can either sit and wait and be passive or go get that shit. it doesn't necessarily involve violence or stealing or any of that, but if the situation arises i would not hesitate.
is that ego? if so i'm an egomaniac, i don't like fucking around much.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8242842 - 04/05/08 02:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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impgl said: lol. oh no's im de first to die!
i dont really care. its just life. we all die.
I bet you would beg for your life if it came down to it. Im sick of you people that think that they would die and be ok with it. You would die begging someone to save you.
i have been close to dying a few times. i'll try hard to survive, but everyone dies. thats just how shit is.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: zSDMF]
#8243000 - 04/05/08 03:43 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am going to canibalize you. ROAR
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: impgl]
#8243005 - 04/05/08 03:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know, but you dont have to sound so cynical about it.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8243028 - 04/05/08 03:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow you guys have some ideas that are kinda... Out there...
Honestly, if the system collapsed and it was a massive free for all, I would do whatever it took to survive. If I have to shoot someone and kill them just to eat them and not starve to death, I will fucking do it.
All you people that would grow gardens and such, I would fucking rob you and if you tried to stop me you would get blasted by my shotty or my ak47.
But honestly, I don't think it will get THAT bad, worst that will happen is a depression that can be dealt with.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Horribla]
#8243042 - 04/05/08 03:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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There will be plenty of people who would target assholes first. You have been forewarned.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Horribla]
#8243047 - 04/05/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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You would be the first to die then. I can shoot a fly off shit with my m16 from 700 feet away. thank you usmc.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: dr_gonz]
#8243058 - 04/05/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mind a great depression, it might give me a chance to pick up somethings in the market for cheap.
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Kada]
#8243069 - 04/05/08 04:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would do whatever it took to survive for family first, and then myself. call me old school, but that's how i roll. and i would never, ever harm an innocent, no matter what. if i don't have principals and standards, what DO i have then?
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: Syle]
#8243133 - 04/05/08 04:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol.
all this "i would do ___" is irrelevant because there won't be an economic collapse
We'll hit a recession for a few years, maybe even define it as a "depression" if we can't get our financial markets straightened out. Either way - a few years of relatively bad times - and then onward we march. Will we emerge still a superpower? Maybe yes, maybe no.
I've been sayin it in these doomsday threads for a while now, and if/when i turn out to be completly wrong - i'll be glad to eat my words. But until then - i'll just keep disagreeing in every thread
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Re: am I the only one not scared of an economic collapse? [Re: dr_gonz]
#8243165 - 04/05/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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zSDMF said: but we live in a pussified society where we sit and watch britney spears spiral out of control on Entertainment Tonite. i really loathe american culture in particular.
haha, it's true. the way we live our lives compared to others, we deserve to pay for it, at least a little.
kids in foreign countries get paid barely anything to make toys that children in the us get sick of after a few weeks.
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ToiletDuk said: Sorry to disappoint y'all, but there's not going to be an economic collapse.
how do you KNOW this?
as for the tough gun people that aren't scared, what will you do when you run into a group like yourselves, have a shot-out, get shot in the leg, live, have no hospitals to go to, have no medical supplies to treat yourselves, have no medication, and then your wound gets gain green? tough now? i bet you'll all cry.
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