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Still no germination, NEEED HELP!
    #8235734 - 04/03/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys,

I inoculated my jars a week ago (golden teacher, bought from spore store) and am not seeing ANY growth whatsoever in any of my jars. I keep the TiT setup at a steady 81 degrees and in a dark place, looking at the jars every evening.

I would like some adivice, as usually my jars should have shown SOME progress, but this is just frustrating. Any ideas?

here are some pics of my incubation setup. Oh, and btw I used 2ccs per jar of spore solution.









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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Grateful Sage]
    #8235780 - 04/03/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

First off, stop checking them every day this is a hobby of patience. Secondly, if there is not any growth it could mean a bust syringe. Only use shroomery sponsers.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8235794 - 04/03/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Not checking on them is just horrible haha, I just would like to see SOME growth. And I had already ordered from spore store when I joined the shroomery. But next time I will definatly order from a sponsor.

Am I doing things right? how does the setup look? and what can I do now?


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8235799 - 04/03/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

yah if you didn't go with the sponsors seriously just buy a syringe from the sponsor (ralphster will have that shit grow) and expect it not to grow depending on how long u have waited.... I've bought some bunk spores in the beginning from that fagget ass sporebank place and I'm telling you it grew about 50% after a month then stalled. Some whack ass Amazons You sporebank whores.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8235819 - 04/03/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Sporestore is a notorious name in the spore vending biz, I wouldn't buy shit from them if you held a gun to my head and tried to make me. I've heard nothing but horror stories about their "products", which are mostly either syringes full of water, or syringes full of mold spores.

Stick with the guys who pay to advertise here, there's a whole list of sponsors who are pretty much guaranteed to give you what you pay for, if not more, and they'll all go out of their way to make up for things if you get a bad\damaged syringe or if you have to wait for them to restock shit you order.

Plus, mentioning you came from here is good for freebies and discounts on some of their sites, and that's always a plus.

In other words, fuck Spore Store, and buy from people who aren't just trying to scam you out of your money.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8235886 - 04/03/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

So their spores are no-good? I know I made the mistake of ordering from a non-supporter, but unfortunatly I did.
is there any chance that the spores they did send me are good? I just dont want to throw out the jars when I MIGHT still get growth on them. Any ideas?


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Grateful Sage]
    #8235903 - 04/03/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Time in this game is also a valuable resource. But go right ahead.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: watchoutnow]
    #8235908 - 04/03/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

BTW how long has it been?


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Ever since I got braces shit gets stuck in my teeth.
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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Grateful Sage]
    #8235911 - 04/03/08 10:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

pray to jesus...... what would jesus do?  i pray and it works for my shrooms...kat:grin:


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: rugergirl79]
    #8235920 - 04/03/08 10:05 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

They have been incubating a week. No growth.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Grateful Sage]
    #8235928 - 04/03/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Leave them I say. If nothing happens withina reasonable amount of time, ( 3 weeks from innoc. ?) throw them out. Ralphsters fucking rocks. I have had nothing but great success, as far as viable syringes goes, with his syringes. I use a TiT like setup and it works wonders. Seriously. I won't do it any other way, at least not for awhile. I have had a pint jar colnize in like 1.5-2 weeks. Doesn't sound extreme, but this is only a second grow. Give it a try. And is that a towel in there?


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: misos]
    #8235999 - 04/03/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It's just a paper towel, only had that in there cause the botton of my inside tub was slightly curved, and I didn't want my jars tipping over.

That make a HUGE differnece?


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8236032 - 04/03/08 10:24 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

All vendor issues are already said, so I concentrate on answering your question...

Sometimes it just takes a very long time for the spores to visibly germinate. In most cases it's because of the age of the spores. The older they get, the more time they take.
However, sometimes, only "few" spores get into the jar, which is why it can take some time for two monokaryotic mycelium strings to combine and to grow bigger.
This happens quiet often when you use VERY light prints to make a syringe. Although there are still several thousand spores in the syringe it mostly take them longer to "find each other", to grow bigger to be actually visible.

So be patient and wait another week before worrying!


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Grateful Sage]
    #8236046 - 04/03/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Not even a little bit. I really don't see any reason why you shouldn't have at least a little bit of growth.

Did you make sure to shoot the solution down the sides of the jars, or did you just shove the needle into the middle of the substrate and shoot it up?

Aside from the possibility of user error there or a bunk spore syringe, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't have at least SOME growth. The only thing you can really do now is wait for it to show signs of life, be it mushroom mycelium or something nastier of the green or black sort.

I hope it does turn out for you, though. Hearing about anyone getting fucked over pisses me off a bit. Good luck, man!


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8236074 - 04/03/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Skeeblix, it's VERY frustrating to me as well. Although, I did JUST now print the Ralph order form, and will be sending that out tomorrow. So untill my new syringes come in I will wait it out and hope for the best, if no growth by the time my new syringes come in then out they go.

Another quick question, how long does it typically take for an order to come in from Ralph? I live in FL.

Thanks1


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8236084 - 04/03/08 10:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck for sure. *Personally*, I wouldn't keep anything organic in there. AKA, stuff that bacteria can easily breed on. Catch my drift? Doubt it makes a huge difference, but, it's better to be safe than sorry. : /


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: misos]
    #8236180 - 04/03/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Search for liquid culture. do it next time.

that way you can see when the spores are done germinating and ready to inject. you'll see growth in a day or so when you do it this way.

I find germination can take up to 2 weeks, so like everyone has said. your best action is to forget they exist for the next month. no since throwing them out unless you see mold.


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: crazyeddie]
    #8236485 - 04/03/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

~Did you shake the jars after inoculation?  I've read recently this can slow down colonization initially.  The Jars do not need to be kept in the dark though...it doesn't hurt to look at them in the light.  My jars are kept on a shelf in a room that gets sunlight.  I am new to growing, but I know that the idea of colonizing jars needing to be kept in the dark is just disinformation. :shineon: ~Pixie~


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Psuper]
    #8236718 - 04/04/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Phuck sporestore.com they can eat my taint!:thumbdown:


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Re: Still no germination, NEEED HELP! [Re: Tyz]
    #8236739 - 04/04/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

haha

Thanks for all the awesome responses guys. I just filled out my order for ralph, and assuming I get them ASAP, I will post up my entire process the next time.

Thanks all!


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