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OfflineLion
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Desire
    #8234523 - 04/03/08 07:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you had to choose, right now, between having all of your desires (within reason) fulfilled, and being completely without desire, which would you choose? 

What would your world look like if your desires were gratified; what would your life feel like?  Conversely, how would it be to be alive in this world without desire?  Get creative with your descriptions. :smile:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Desire [Re: Lion]
    #8234572 - 04/03/08 07:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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What would your world look like if your desires were gratified




Nobody would ever use the phrase "Chi-town" or say they went to "Frisco."


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Re: Desire [Re: Lion]
    #8234604 - 04/03/08 07:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would want to have no desires. Honestly, I have no idea what that would be like.


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Re: Desire [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #8234625 - 04/03/08 07:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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MushmanTheManic said:
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What would your world look like if your desires were gratified




Nobody would ever use the phrase "Chi-town" or say they went to "Frisco."


Could we still rep the ATL? Beantown? Mo-Town? Chopper City? This is a slippery slope you're walking...


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Desire [Re: Lion]
    #8234653 - 04/03/08 08:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

your question reads something like this lion.

if you could choose to sleep for eternity or never sleep at all, which would you choose?


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Re: Desire [Re: appleorange]
    #8234677 - 04/03/08 08:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Could you expand on that? I don't entirely understand what you're getting at.

I tried not to make it too extreme by placing the "within reason" condition on desire fulfillment. Maybe I should clarify by saying that desirelessness to me means having no negative impulses in your consciousness when your preferences don't materialize. It wouldn't necessarily be the same as stark asceticism.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: Desire [Re: Lion]
    #8234891 - 04/03/08 08:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You're asking the same question twice. When one has no desires, all the desires are gratified.


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Re: Desire [Re: learningtofly]
    #8235321 - 04/03/08 10:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
You're asking the same question twice. When one has no desires, all the desires are gratified.




No, I think that what the original poster means is that desire is taken out of the equation completely. Not that we've had our desires fulfilled; just that desire is abolished as a concept and now we're just living to live and procreate, rather than to have fun or some higher purpose.

Assuming that's what was meant, I can't choose. I'd be bored if all my desires were fulfilled. Also, what happens when I desire new things? On the other hand, life would be rather boring without desire. Although, without desire, I could never desire to return to the former way of life.


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    #8235450 - 04/03/08 10:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Desire [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8235586 - 04/03/08 11:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lion, to be free of desire or to have all your desires fulfilled, would that not be the same thing?

When all desires are filled, you no longer desire.

This is all hypothetical bulllshit though because it's impossible to not desire because we are desire itself.


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Re: Desire [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8235743 - 04/03/08 11:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My desire is to be at peace with the moment, in such a way that everything flows through me, and anything can blossom, worlds grow within me, beautiful visions take root and embed themselves permanently.
My desire is to feel infinite compassion and motivation, and have the infinite textures of the universe as my soul, so that I can create with others, give to others and worship this life.

Asking for that desire to be abolished seems somewhat practical, because ever since I realized that this was my desire I have felt incomplete, the very opposite of my wish to be at peace with incompleteness so that new thought could stir within...
There just seems to be so little time, and I have so much work to do, and I live with the feeling that this is all an illusion, the conflict of apathy with a perfectionist soul that is impossible to gratify.
There are many who need help, and many demons that roam this world, it eats away at me every day that I'm not intelligent enough, willed enough, compassionate enough to start on a journey of true value.

It seems so easy to give into the alien presence of life, to claim the true futility of all struggle, the immensity of universe and its dimensional abstraction, and let go of these agendas, these "truths"....become a hedonist being until this body passes along, and those who suffer only do so for a short period,days pass so rapidly, ultimately just a spark in a vast cosmic explosion.

How can we all wake to the trip? Where do you find that depth of vision and meaning? In every moment...novel, moving, so beautiful, fleeting, needing to be captured but not contained...

etc...haha


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Re: Desire [Re: krin]
    #8235823 - 04/03/08 11:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Damn that was beautiful my friend, thank you


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