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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: utopianglory]
    #823738 - 08/17/02 03:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't see what 420 said wrong before Mickey. You described misting and called it fanning. Seemed a strange comment to me aswell.


You don't think removing the lid and spraying exchanges air? I was trying to explain that traditional fanning was not necessary in this situation and that the air exchange resulting from the spraying (1-2 time a week) was more than adequate.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823755 - 08/17/02 03:46 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

LOL, I didnt tell anyone to lower your rating. You really stuck on this rating thing man. Just relax, someone will put it back up to where it was.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823764 - 08/17/02 03:49 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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I was trying to explain that traditional fanning was not necessary in this situation and that the air exchange resulting from the spraying (1-2 time a week) was more than adequate.




How long have the cakes been in the terraRium?
Stamets recommends 1-3 air exchanges per hour:

Primordia Formation
Relative Humidity: 95-100%
Air Temperature: 74-78F
Duration: 6-10 days
CO2: less than 5,000 ppm
Fresh Air Exchanges: 1-3 per hour
Light: Diffuse natual or 12-16 hours/day of grow-lux type of vluorescent light high in the blue spectra at the 480 nanometer wavelenght.

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Relative Humidity: 85-92%
Air Temperature: 74-78F
CO2: less than 5,000 ppm
Fresh Air Exchanges: 1-3 per hour
Flushing Pattern: Every 5-8 days
Harvest Stage: When the cap becomes convex and soon after the partial veil rupures
Light: Indirect natural or same as above

Taken from The Mushroom Cultivator by Paul Stamets and J.S. Chilton


You may end up with very small fruit if you do not give enough air exchange.

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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #823770 - 08/17/02 03:51 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The cakes have been in there for about two weeks or so. Maybe a bit longer. Either way, this is not something new that is being tried. I am not looking for advice..


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823776 - 08/17/02 03:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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I am not looking for advice.





And I wasn't giving it, but someone new to cultivation will know from my above post above the correct amount of air exchange.

Small fruit result from insufficiant air exchange


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #823781 - 08/17/02 03:58 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I exchange the air more often when working with casings. Maybe I should have mentioned that, but with cakes, I find that fanning is way overrated.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823783 - 08/17/02 04:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

He's been growing for " 10 years now " so he knows what he's talking about, so say....


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: Killa420]
    #823789 - 08/17/02 04:01 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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He's been growing for " 10 years now " so he knows what he's talking about, so say....


If you don't have anything constructive to add, stay out of the thread. You're just showing what an ass you are.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823896 - 08/17/02 04:39 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #823931 - 08/17/02 04:57 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

how long did it take for those to form?
i've heard people complaining about how long it took for pr to pin


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: sirJ]
    #823937 - 08/17/02 04:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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how long did it take for those to form?
i've heard people complaining about how long it took for pr to pin


I didn't take notes, so I can't give you an exact number. If I were to guess I would say about ten days or so. Subjectively speaking, it took them longer than other strains.


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    #823950 - 08/17/02 05:07 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #826414 - 08/18/02 06:58 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I just updated the original post to show what the growth rate is like... Enjoy.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #826622 - 08/18/02 08:13 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

did u use anything to induce pinning i am also using PR. This is my first time and i didnt know that PR were difficult to pin so any help u can give is well helpful


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: o0aciddreamz0o]
    #826631 - 08/18/02 08:16 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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did u use anything to induce pinning i am also using PR. This is my first time and i didnt know that PR were difficult to pin so any help u can give is well helpful


I don't think PR is difficult at all. It just "seemed" to take a bit more time to pin, but hell, you may find different! The exact process followed is detailed above. It's that simple!

Good luck...


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #838584 - 08/23/02 05:21 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The problem with that rehydration technique is that the pins will only want to form around the top and bottom of the cake. Dunking usually provided a more uniformed distribution of pins. WHat kind of yeildage was that?


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    #838592 - 08/23/02 05:28 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: Macey Howard]
    #838706 - 08/23/02 06:15 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah, I want o know the yealdage too


The internet site listed a yield of about 60g wet on the first flush. Afterwards, the cake was broken up for use outdoors.


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #839000 - 08/23/02 08:25 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

what is the reason for the aluminum foil, verm on bottom and verm on top?

i think maybe the perlite isnt supposed to touch the mycelium cause thats just unhealthy...and the aluminum by itself might kill mycelium if its in contact with the bottom, but verm on top?

can someone explain?


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Re: Cakes are easy... [PICS] [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #839052 - 08/23/02 08:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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what is the reason for the aluminum foil, verm on bottom and verm on top?


The foil keeps the bottom layer of vermiculite off the perlite. If the vermiculite were laying directly on the perlite, overhydration of the cake (through wicking) could result. The vermiculite on top increases the moisture available to the cake. It's like a pseudo casing in the traditional sense.


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