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unretarded
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: anarchOi]
#8205436 - 03/28/08 09:56 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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.....But if you take the half pints and bury them like the TEK showes ...not break them up ,bury them whole in a casing ! I have a 150 gal aquarium ,that holds 60 1/2 pints buried .Easy and quick. This is the method I am going to use next ,1/2 pints {because they colonize quickly} bury the whole 1/2 pint {contam resistant},along with 59 other 1/2 pints in a bulk type grow on the bottom of the tank 3 inches pearlite 1 inch verm add cakes cover cakes {about 1/2 to 1 inch thick over the top of cake}with casing...........wait for results.
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psychophobia
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8205462 - 03/28/08 10:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well those are flushes
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anarchOi
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: unretarded]
#8205463 - 03/28/08 10:05 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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dumbfounded.... those are some fucking pro ass grows
most nubs aren't going to get that... we're talking about a realistic level for starters
but i forgot, you've never grown a mushroom, so you wouldn't know
i'm pretty glad i used pint cakes for my first grows i was quite satisfied, and i'm not even sure if i'd continued if i'd been growing half-pint cakes
i've done half pint cakes since and it's pretty difficult to get such awesome pinsets like your stolen pictures
don't try to pretend like you know something and stop following my posts looking to argue
it's quite annoying.
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: anarchOi]
#8205514 - 03/28/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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anarchOi said: BRF is extremely nutritous for mushrooms infact, i'd say BRF is MUCH more nutritous than poo
that's why we use poo, enough nutrients for the shrooms but not much there for contams BRF is open to all kind of bacterial contams, much more trich savvy, etc hardly suitable in terms of bulk, but if you can make it work, you will have quite a flush
dude .... no
where the hell did you get this idea? BRF is probably the least nutritous substrate their is! Look at all of the old-time pros on this site (agar, roadkill, etc) and see if any of them use BRF, or do they use poo?
the reason why poo doesn't contam as easy as BRF has to do with pasturization vs. sterilization. Not because of lack of nutrients.
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8205528 - 03/28/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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i don't see how a cake in a sterilized jar could ever contam if it had dust filter and verm layer
Most of the time contams get a grip while making a syringe, a LC or a g2g transfer.
However Verm and micopore tape don't mean that there can't get any contams in the jar, even after the knock up process. These things diminish the risk of it, yes, but they are FAR from preventing it completely!
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dumbfounded1600
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: Fahkface]
#8205561 - 03/28/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get off my nuts dumb ass. I was simply telling you you were wrong so stfu. Anyone can get those type of grows, especially with multi spore inoculation if they read.
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itsallnines
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: anarchOi]
#8205574 - 03/28/08 10:36 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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anarchOi said: dumbfounded.... those are some fucking pro ass grows
most nubs aren't going to get that... we're talking about a realistic level for starters
but i forgot, you've never grown a mushroom, so you wouldn't know
i'm pretty glad i used pint cakes for my first grows i was quite satisfied, and i'm not even sure if i'd continued if i'd been growing half-pint cakes
i've done half pint cakes since and it's pretty difficult to get such awesome pinsets like your stolen pictures
don't try to pretend like you know something and stop following my posts looking to argue
it's quite annoying.
he really hates it when you remind him of his lack of experience.
i would think that you would have major issues with contamination. everything loves to eat BRF - pediococcus, bacillus, molds, wild yeasts, you name it.
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Madnessinc
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8205594 - 03/28/08 10:39 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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People are using BRF as a semi bulk sub. Everything from the bottom of a Paint can (cleaned out and blah blah blah) to chinese take out containers (the plastic ones). You want bulk, do bulk. You want half pints, do half pints. You can do ALOT with half pints, including breaking or grating it up, and spawning that to another sub of your choice (coir, poo, straw...) or just fruiting it. It's not hard, and tends to be easiest to work with in the beginning while you figure out what it is you want to do within the hobby. After all with one fruited half pint, you can isolate your shroom into an lc, enjoy an evening or three with some friends, and then move onto rye innoc'ing for bulk. Or continue to make half pints because a lot of us don't do this for other's pleasures but our own. Sitting and reading that grow guides here can fill your head with a lot of information that you can then use to decide your best next course. based upon your prices and experience.
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dumbfounded1600
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: Madnessinc]
#8205655 - 03/28/08 10:50 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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where the hell did you get this idea? BRF is probably the least nutritous substrate their is! Look at all of the old-time pros on this site (agar, roadkill, etc) and see if any of them use BRF, or do they use poo?
the reason why poo doesn't contam as easy as BRF has to do with pasturization vs. sterilization. Not because of lack of nutrients.
Where the hell did you get that shit? BRF is 5-10(exaggeration) times the nutrition of any bulk substrate. No you dumbass. manure has micro bacteria that helps fight off contamination when pasturized. If you sterilized you would kill it and it would easily contaminate as easily as an LC would.
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anarchOi
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8206029 - 03/28/08 12:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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sterilized poo doesn't contam as easily as you suggest
lots of people on here have successfully grown with sterilized bulk substrate
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8206077 - 03/28/08 12:14 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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half pints don't yeild anything >.> not even enough for one person to trip lol
This I KNOW you're wrong




Hey DF, if you're going to use other members pics, you should at least credit them in your posts rather than leading people who don't know any better to believe that those are your grows. You're giving the false impression that you're speaking from actual experience.
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dumbfounded1600
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: FooMan]
#8206124 - 03/28/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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O. No those aren't my pics. Just shutting anarch0i up.
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dumbfounded1600
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8206130 - 03/28/08 12:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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They must not have a high % of spore loads then if they can sterilize manure and not have any problems.
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anarchOi
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#8206298 - 03/28/08 01:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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not everyone uses spores
and i'm pretty sure none of them use spores to colonize a bulk
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unretarded
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: FooMan]
#8206493 - 03/28/08 01:52 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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100 thumbs up on those cakes!!!!! 
                     
Now picture 60 of those in a 150 gallon aquarium....
Edited by unretarded (03/28/08 01:57 PM)
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: unretarded]
#8206725 - 03/28/08 02:48 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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You use spores to colonize grain and use the grain to do the bulk. Of course you don't use spores to colonize bulk. You guys got way off topic.
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anarchOi
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: mooowi]
#8206823 - 03/28/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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or you use agar or LC to colonize grain, MS would be a waste on grain
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: anarchOi]
#8206838 - 03/28/08 03:12 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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or you use agar or LC to colonize grain, MS would be a waste on grain
Why would you say that? Grains can perfectly be inoculated with multispore solutions. That's what's done most of the time. Agar is an advanced technique to isolate or clone or to "clean up" a print.
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: anarchOi]
#8207086 - 03/28/08 04:17 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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anarchOi said: or you use agar or LC to colonize grain, MS would be a waste on grain
well i must have accomplished the impossible
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anarchOi
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Re: Why can you not make a giant pf cake [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#8207949 - 03/28/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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no i meant, why waste spores when you could make an LC and save them
i know MS to grain works fine, i was talking about the sake of saving material
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