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A call to all those who have taken their conciousness to the ends of time. (from philosophy and ...)
    #8193333 - 03/25/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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(if you want a lil better read, its in philosophy and spirituality, then jump back to post here, thnx and sorry for any bit of inconvenience to the reader)

Or read it compressed (sic) here.

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Mr_Spliff said:
On one particulare night I decided to take to psylicybin mushrooms. What turned out to be a rather larg amount, non the less I managed to retain my "wits" and let go of fear. I would faze in and out for several minutes with my friends, when I would 'come' back, I would ask "is everything O.K?" every minute or so. Well it got to a point where I forgot everything, yet gained it all. Then I had a sense if I, and this sense of some rather large ominous being right up next to me. It was that everything 'I' just was. I felt as though I did something wrong, I felt as though I came from somewhere else to here. Immediatly I knew that memories where mere hallucinations so  to say. That Memory was illusory, and that I could not claim memories in the sense that I used to claim ownership. I litterly felt like I either was another person entierly, or another time line, on another set of tracks. Some aspects of my life are for the worse since then, but some for the better ang getting better. It felt like  I reasembled reality wrong, due to immaturity.

I get REALY strong Deja Vu ALOT, like I'll got 5 to 10 minutes riding the Deja Vu high I have come to call it. It seems that something has been placing Info infront of me, or like I am somehow seeking info and finding it really easy, like it just falls into my lap.

I have gotten almost absessed with this idea of my concioussness traveling through space and time. Contacting people through dreams, not like my dream body in their dream space, but more like 2 dreams riding the same wave, kinda comunication. Its all so real, yet I feel alone, almost crazy. I am only 20 years old, I went to high School for 1 and a half years, I am struggleing financialy and am in no place to go to college, let alone find one to satisfy my way of thinking, I know I am on to something, I feel that if I let go of this time line emotionaly, that throught Psilicybin or DMT I can open a gateway  , or rather look away from the outer to see the gate already within, and if I can navigate just right, maybe atain eternal life through looping my counciousness back into my past, of course I could never remember the future, those memories are in my future brain, and I have just jump back to my old one.

What are your thoughts?




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EternalCowabunga said:
I think that infinity needs finiteness




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DimensionX said:
Ive had similar thoughts, I'm not sure if its possible to actually do these things, i think the brain might actually be structured in a way to prevent it from happening. It keeps your consciousness in the "present", and only allows you to temporally travel to other points in time, in this way it provides a structured frame work for consciousness to exist in.

Its cool to have original thoughts, but be careful because the mind is fragile, you have to take care of it.




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Mr_Spliff said:
I agree, NORMALLY the brain keeps us here and now, but the shroom experience is far from normal my friend, and DMT i have no clue.

I think this world is nothing more than a picture image. Like we can switch channels a go, ohh looky here lets watch 'Mr_Spliff' for awhile, oh yeah ive seen this before, he takes a bunch of shrooms and, oh fuck this, pppffzzeww next chanel,"what was I just watching?" oh well here I am...

Time, I believe is more like a river with its forkes and whoorlpools. In a whoorlpool the shape is always the same, as long as the initial conditions are(love?). The shape or form can me likened to a body, and the water the spirit, I am Mr_Spliff, filled with the spirit, the I, flowing through the river ( universe) which forks. I belive if one water can say hey lets go down this fork instead, another water must go down the other, so where you may make a change for the better, maybe your father gets cancer.

I also agree with those who say this is risky buisness. Almost magic. But I think this is what humans are faced with. A reality we know nothing about, yet the  word magic sickens me, it almost deters the lestiner further from the truth.

Be weary my friends...

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/Third%20Book/Brain%20time%20machine%207.htm

http://www.akasha.de/~aton/GrandPa.html

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=974921

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/

Theres a few links I like.




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EternalCowabunga said:
I used to have similar ideas and may have even acted on them, in a different reality. Honestly I think there is a part of my life I can't access because of this.
If you are able to really take advantage of this, you will have "grown up" out of the infancy most of us live in.




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Mr_Spliff said:
Why'd you give up?




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DimensionX said:
I have had some amazing experiences which makes me think along the same lines. I think in some ways it makes life harder but in other ways it enriches it. Good luck in everything and as it says in the song Lateralus by Tool, "We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been"




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Mr_Spliff said:
Hell yeah. Loved reading those lyrics.

I think theres a reason they are called Magic Mushrooms, watch harry potter on shrooms. WOW. Shrooms are like a catalyst, rocketing us into our home. Like befor the law of man was the law of magic, but since belief concures all, the laws of man over rided the old laws. And madern materialism was born, and the elves and wizards and hobits all had to leave on a big boat to a "far" away land.

I once read that as scientists are researching in new cutting edge areas of science, thier intentions actually affect the outcome. Meaning thier deep seated feeling desires and beliefes are molding the "Laws" of physics. Like how memory is illusory and cannot be claimed. Laws are not Laws except by the law of belief, (faith, intention what have you)

I think there are others out there. Practicing, developing, and awakening thier own faverit forms of "concious spooky mamipulation at a distance" in like words of Einstein.

The Seat of conciousness lies in the quantum or planck scale of things, so far out when I feel it, the truth of it all, I just laugh in this insanity i am covered in. The truth is unspeakable, sizeless, spacless, timeless, and yet look around. We are attached to this world, this picture image which is a part of God except it has become insane with these new Laws and has started to feed off fear, but we are bringers if love, infinity, from the other side.




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Mr_Spliff said:
A post from a few weeks ago, this might tie in...

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Mr_Spliff said:
If we were able to construct a time machine, the current paradigm says we can only go as far back as the time machine its self was made. That I know is commonly accepted.

I currently have been interested in this "reproduction of the outer". We all live in our own bubble so small I believe quantum physics will be were one might find out more about it. Well its always been this way, everytime I think I just had some big revelation I could write about, people are already on the case.

They say that when a tenis player thinks he made the choice of swinging to hit the ball, he already did 500 (sic)milliseconds ago or so, and is at that moment already respomding to the next move on a subcouncious level. So we are living in the past, while we think we are affecting now. So no free will.

Well if you've seen what the bleep do we know, Some of those same scientist have been makeing new discoveries (speculations) in science. They basically say , to save free will, that our brain is a quantum computer and that quantum effects effect our choices.

I remember seeing this black dude on the History channel on tuesdays the universe, talking about sending back info using lazers.

Stuart Hamerhoff or something from what the bleep do we know was saying that our brains send back info to use now from the 500 msec in the future allowing Free Will, and real time decision making. He had all kinds of reasons and stuff at quantumconciousness.org. It all made sense really.

I mean its such a mystery to me how we produce such detailed qualia, all in seemingly one place one space.

Ifeel Deja Vu all the time, some say pot will do that to you. Well I have several times on shrooms were it was just like WTF type deja vu. Ive heard that during birth and at death DMT is sent into the blood streem, could this be to insure a place in which to "go back to" upon a suitable death, (Like right now Deja VU keep typing) as long as your brain isnt blown off, when the DMT again is sent into the blood. Shrooms is DMT with a phosphorus ring attached or somthin to bypass our stomachs, I remember on one of my most intese trips I felt as tho I went somewhere from somwhere to here, I felt like a new person, in the bible when people partake of manna they become like a dead man, so that the new man may walk in gods law. Maybe some shroom trips could act as refrense point on our time line. Jesus says that if you partake of his flesh (manna) that you shall have eternal life.

I think by now some may understand what I am saying. Basically that this world is a timeloop, and that threw the timeloop we gain immortality, time is like a river, with its eddies and whorlpools, could we, on earth be caught in one?

What are your thoughts possitive negative, don't care. I am too lazy to put up resourses, my mind id a sponge gathering info from all kinds a places and, then I try to work it all together, so its more important for me now to get the idea accross, besides, many of you have prolly read alot of what I have too. So think on man...







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DimensionX said:
I think reality in its purest state is this kind of formless infinity. Because its infinite it has no limits, and because it has no limits everything exists but in another way nothing exists because there are no limits to define it. What our brains and consciousness do is apply limits to this formless infinity and by doing so create something which has form and substance. What form it takes just depends on what limits are applied to it.

"I just laugh in this insanity i am covered in." That sounds like a perfect way to experience the joy of existence.




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truekimbo2 said:
same.

i've mentioned before i met some kid while sober, and i instantly had all these fake memories, including being at the end of time and basically all the stuff you just mentioned about how to live in other types of time.

i decided i don't care about any of that, i  care about being able to sit still comfortably and breathe correctly, and hopefully to be happy.

edit: oh yeah, so personally i gave up stuff like that because i was scared that i was going off "on my own".  yeah there may be other entities out there that would be able to guide me and i would be able to related to me, but you know what maybe there aren't.  maybe i would get lost and go inside my own self so far i couldn't reach anything else.
  i decided then to stay within the human collective hivemind, and not push myself so far that i would lose contact with the collective.




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EternalCowabunga said:
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i decided then to stay within the human collective hivemind, and not push myself so far that i would lose contact with the collective.




:yesnod:

I gave up because I didn't want to be alone




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Mr_Spliff said:
Thats funny.

The way I figure is that like in the spliting universe theory, their are many "yous" side by side with many diffrent options but only one of you is YOU, And then theres this thing about the other universes not being stable and collapsing presenting us with free will, I believe. But, one of the other youse would proboblly just fall into this one, kinda like Alice!

I dont know but when I let it all go, and I am nearer to the beginging then to the end, or the end of the begining, or what ever.

Maybe im just going nuts, but with our brains being able to 'channel' the quantum with these microtubials inside individual neurons, almost anything seems possible.

"Have faith in God," Jesus answered. "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this
mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but
believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you,
whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that
your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins."(I think 'sin' was just about anything that inhibited this free will and comunion with the father ( father quantum:crazy2:), like Alcohol im sure, red meats, that maoi diet to increase endogenouse dmt in the penieal gland reminds me of a bible story)

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DimensionX said:
I think reality in its purest state is this kind of formless infinity. Because its infinite it has no limits, and because it has no limits everything exists but in another way nothing exists because there are no limits to define it. What our brains and consciousness do is apply limits to this formless infinity and by doing so create something which has form and substance. What form it takes just depends on what limits are applied to it.





I totally agree, I once saw it as abunch of mirrors replicating, reapeating, for infinty outward, many yet the same, round hallow and full of high octane energy, yeah! hehe

Maybe this is what Terence was contacting?

Like I sain, "the insanity". But its feels right at home.




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fireworks_god said:
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Mr_Spliff said:
I am only 20 years old, I went to high School for 1 and a half years, I am struggleing financialy and am in no place to go to college, let alone find one to satisfy my way of thinking, I know I am on to something, I feel that if I let go of this time line emotionaly, that throught Psilicybin or DMT I can open a gateway  , or rather look away from the outer to see the gate already within, and if I can navigate just right, maybe atain eternal life through looping my counciousness back into my past, of course I could never remember the future, those memories are in my future brain, and I have just jump back to my old one.

What are your thoughts?




I think you need to find some balance in your life. You are focusing excessively on the metaphysical, yet you are neglecting the present aspects of your life that require your attention and action in order for you to sustain yourself. This is evidenced by your statement that you are struggling financially. Find some stability in your present experience so you have a solid foundation from which you will be free to explore the nature of reality.




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Mr_Spliff said:
Ok thanks for the...? People don't trust other people. Im surviving, like any other person my age, its more about hard copy credentials going yeah I did this and that here at this school. I could be happy living the rest my life where im at, woodlands everywhere from my place. But I am not happy with my schooling, I feel more of a renegad mad lunitic, mabye if I meet a couple other like minds it would help, and college is just an experience that I think would be cool, and is a about time to go, but I have a few things bogging me down like, where I live until the age of 24 you still need your parents taxs to get financial aid, well my mother is not good at paper work and always loses stuff so its hard to even get financial aid until I am 24, im kinda stuck, so I home study and go to libraries. I think I learn better quality info, but it laks framwork.

Maybe you read too much into it, maybe I wined woo much, but maybe thatll help you understand a lil better about my situation.

Edit: no offense you sound like my friend, she thinks shes psycic, but basis all her judgements on lil statments the way you did, but at least she has body language to read off of as well, she is a bit more accurate. I think its an ego trip based on empty vessels of ancient knowlege which lost its meaning.  Nice assesment though, I really do like it.




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fireworks_god said:
It was an assessment that wasn't based solely on the statement I quoted, but also regarding the ideas you have expressed and the manners in which you have expressed them. I think you're onto something, it just seems that you're all over the place. :wink: I simply gathered the sense that you could use some mental relaxation.  :hehehe:



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Mr_Spliff said:
yeah im on my last bowl right now, LOL :banghead:

Had to smuggle some weed (4oz) from down south past a check point just to get good herb where im at, fuckin dog alerted to my vehical. To say the least there was some fucking divine intervention goin on there or somethin, had it in my pocket steped me over to the side and the dog jumped in, and went ape nuts. The guy was like are you an American cit, blah, yes sir, are there any drugs in the vehical, No sir (in my pocket :2girls1cup: ) But uh, well I smoke you see and , Pot, well yeah but im not about to bring a bible infront of the fuckin devil, he looked at me funny and after they tossed afew things around they said I could go. :bowdown:  As I steped into my car, I looked at my cargo pocket to see the flap WIDE open and the top of a Zip Lock Slider bag!!!

And now im on my last bowl, LOL.!!!!




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fireworks_god said:
I feel you, I haven't smoked in weeks now and I'm itching to. :hehehe:




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Icelander said:
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Mr_Spliff said:
On one particulare night I decided to take to psylicybin mushrooms. What turned out to be a rather larg amount, non the less I managed to retain my "wits" and let go of fear. I would faze in and out for several minutes with my friends, when I would 'come' back, I would ask "is everything O.K?" every minute or so. Well it got to a point where I forgot everything, yet gained it all. Then I had a sense if I, and this sense of some rather large ominous being right up next to me. It was that everything 'I' just was. I felt as though I did something wrong, I felt as though I came from somewhere else to here. Immediatly I knew that memories where mere hallucinations so  to say. That Memory was illusory, and that I could not claim memories in the sense that I used to claim ownership. I litterly felt like I either was another person entierly, or another time line, on another set of tracks. Some aspects of my life are for the worse since then, but some for the better ang getting better. It felt like  I reasembled reality wrong, due to immaturity.

I get REALY strong Deja Vu ALOT, like I'll got 5 to 10 minutes riding the Deja Vu high I have come to call it. It seems that something has been placing Info infront of me, or like I am somehow seeking info and finding it really easy, like it just falls into my lap.

I have gotten almost absessed with this idea of my concioussness traveling through space and time. Contacting people through dreams, not like my dream body in their dream space, but more like 2 dreams riding the same wave, kinda comunication. Its all so real, yet I feel alone, almost crazy. I am only 20 years old, I went to high School for 1 and a half years, I am struggleing financialy and am in no place to go to college, let alone find one to satisfy my way of thinking, I know I am on to something, I feel that if I let go of this time line emotionaly, that throught Psilicybin or DMT I can open a gateway  , or rather look away from the outer to see the gate already within, and if I can navigate just right, maybe atain eternal life through looping my counciousness back into my past, of course I could never remember the future, those memories are in my future brain, and I have just jump back to my old one.

What are your thoughts?




Well my thoughts are, here's another trip report.




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Mr_Spliff said:
It was an experience yes, but life must be experienced to be understood no? Im sure my phylisophical views are evident in my writings, even umongst my rants and rampble. I have no foundation to work with language, in context to learning grammer in a common enviroment as others as to relate my ideas across in an ideal manner. So as you can see im at a slight disadvantage to most, I come as a seeker.


To think we are the final result of evolution is abserd. I have heard the 80% of our genetics are Off. They can place a time released pellet of a protien that is folded in fetal chickens, it causes tail growth, it turns Off at a certain age of fetal development restricting the length of the tail. The point is that with the protien around longer mimicing an On signal the chicken grew a longer tail with more vertabre that resemble a raptors tail. They were even able to get chickens to grow teeth, shaped like dino teeth. The point is that the Dino Genes are already there, they just adapted to the eviroment turning off sooner. They hope to make chickens look like Dinos some day.

My point is that I wonder what the DMT molecule does in all this. Can an exogenous source act as those protien pellets did? Our pennel glands calsify at puperty and endogenous DMT is limited to the blood stream. Can DMT help to turn On currently Off genes? We know already our brains send info on the quantum level to the past and future at least up to 500 milliseconds. Can this be likened unto a fetal chicken's tail?

These are some questions I have and hope we can discuss.


Piece




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WScottsdale said:
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Mr_Spliff said:It seems that something has been placing Info infront of me, or like I am somehow seeking info and finding it really easy, like it just falls into my lap.




Could you explain this a little more?




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Mr_Spliff said:
like coincedences, or synchronisities I think.

I was at a book store, and saw a black dude reading something, figured black history, no offenses, real thoughts, well asked if he had a book to recomended,(never open conversations with african americans, mostly outa small fear and embarassment, (you the whole thing bout them bein bigger LOL jk sorta) wel he handed me a david icke book "time loop" and normally I wouldnt give the guy the time of day, but he had the book on a chapter about his ayahuasca experience, which I had been contemplating my last shroom experience, and had hard core Daja vu, well the themes in the book and my life were surfing the same wave together, how be it Icke is a bit paranoad, Lizard men and what have you, I think its all a mataphor for what really going on.




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fireworks_god said:
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Mr_Spliff said:
It was an experience yes, but life must be experienced to be understood no? Im sure my phylisophical views are evident in my writings, even umongst my rants and rampble. I have no foundation to work with language, in context to learning grammer in a common enviroment as others as to relate my ideas across in an ideal manner. So as you can see im at a slight disadvantage to most, I come as a seeker.




This is a fucking great attitude to have, my friend. :thumbup: Posting here is an excellent way to improve your language skills. I would suggest making use of the spell checker, but put effort into learning the way to spell each word that needs corrected, instead of just correcting it, and if you know a word is spelled wrong or you are unsure as you are typing your posts, open up www.dictionary.com and actively seek out the correct spelling. Grammar will come easier, I think, but it might be a good idea to search for some learning resources, perhaps wikipedia. Language is the means of abstract understanding of experience, and having a good grasp of language itself will only proliferate your understanding. :wink:

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They can place a time released pellet of a protien that is folded in fetal chickens, it causes tail growth, it turns Off at a certain age of fetal development restricting the length of the tail. The point is that with the protien around longer mimicing an On signal the chicken grew a longer tail with more vertabre that resemble a raptors tail. They were even able to get chickens to grow teeth, shaped like dino teeth. The point is that the Dino Genes are already there, they just adapted to the eviroment turning off sooner. They hope to make chickens look like Dinos some day.




I tell you what, from reading this, to your quotation of the Bible, and everything else you've posted, it seems pretty clear that you're sucking in understanding like a sponge. :lol: If you're having a dilemma finding the right college to satisfy your specific needs, I'd allay that matter for now and stick with the Internet. College will always be there; I haven't went yet myself. :hehehe:

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My point is that I wonder what the DMT molecule does in all this. Can an exogenous source act as those protien pellets did? Our pennel glands calsify at puperty and endogenous DMT is limited to the blood stream. Can DMT help to turn On currently Off genes? We know already our brains send info on the quantum level to the past and future at least up to 500 milliseconds. Can this be likened unto a fetal chicken's tail?




Those questions are good ones, but if you are exploring subject matter that is more strictly scientific in nature, like this, I'd suggest posting those over in the Science and Technology forum, as the audience there might be more equipped to enter into serious discussion.




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Icelander said:
but life must be experienced to be understood no?

No. Life cannot be understood.




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Mr_Spliff said:
Yeah I guess I would have to agree with you Icelander.
Maybe understanding life best be left to god. eh

somewhere in the bible "know ye not that ye are the temple of god, and that the spirit of god dwelith in you?"

Not here, not now, tomorrow, or ever.

Only in infinity.

Will be moving this to Science and technologies.



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Re: A call to all those who have taken their conciousness to the ends of time. (from philosophy and [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #8193540 - 03/25/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wait.. what? 







I like sex
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Re: A call to all those who have taken their conciousness to the ends of time. (from philosophy and ...) [Re: Mr_Spliff]
    #8197190 - 03/26/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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