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ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus
    #8176460 - 03/21/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

OK,
these had me fooled last night, thought they were Copes at first (it was 3am, I was le tired).

Growing in a pasture, short green grass.
Directly on cow dung (out of the top of the pattie even, not the side).

Spore print was BLACK on white paper.







Thanks guys!

Oh, yeah, Tampa area is producing cubes, not tons but they are there.


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: du981r]
    #8176606 - 03/21/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

maybe Panaeolus antillarum


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: landsnorkler]
    #8176755 - 03/21/08 05:22 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #8176861 - 03/21/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

How many years does it take to get that good to know how to ID the non-Psilocybin ones???


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: Minion]
    #8176937 - 03/21/08 06:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

It doesn't take long to learn really. You should get a mushroom identification book and try to follow along at home doing mushroom IDs as well as hunting and identifying your finds, take spore prints, etc.. you'll start to learn the genus and species really pretty quickly!


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: Minion]
    #8177153 - 03/21/08 07:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

If your a fast learner like dude^ said then you can ID your own finds with a bit of research and a field guide/book
Care to stick around the shroomery a while ?

I remember when I first started hunting p. cubensis I would come across a green colored button mushroom wich at the time I thought was an oyster mushroom ....
Oh how I've learned alot from this forum and its members
You can too :thumbsup:


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: RandomHero]
    #8177550 - 03/21/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the ID folks. Can I eat it?
I know its not active, but perhaps its delicious?


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: du981r]
    #8177735 - 03/21/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

> How many years does it take to get that good to know how to ID the non-Psilocybin ones???

About two years.

> Thanks for the ID folks. Can I eat it?
> I know its not active, but perhaps its delicious?

I agree with the others, its http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_semiovatus_var._phalaenarum

Most people don't eat that species because it grows on dung, but so are store bought button mushrooms. I have heard its tasty.


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8177811 - 03/21/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it's edible, but I've never eaten them. If it's like other Paneolus species, it'll taste good.

fresh pan subbs taste good to me. I'd eat them in a salad if given the opportunity...


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: PinheadX]
    #8177983 - 03/21/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

One panaeolus salad comin right up


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: landsnorkler]
    #8178276 - 03/21/08 11:45 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Its funny..I remember the first time I did shrooms, me and my brother where warned about how "awful" they tasted (which I later found out is not true in my opinion anyway) we ended up putting fresh cubes on a frozen pizza and cooking it in the oven. I look back now and wonder how we even tripped at all seeing as how a pizza cooks for 15-20 minutes at around 350 degrees F. but we did lol my brother did them in ranch once too..don't think I've ever tried them in a salad though.


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: Aquilus]
    #8178453 - 03/22/08 12:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The flavor of fresh Panaeolus antillarum is almost identical to that of the Agaricus white button mushroom commonly purchased from grocery stores. I have never heard of people feeling ill effects from consuming P. antillarum mushrooms (just complaints that they never tripped). But I would not personally eat them for any practical reason other then being stranded and starving to death in a cow pasture.

Panaeolus semiovatus var. phalaenarum is the new name for this mushroom like in Alans link. Cutting edge taxonomy at it's finest. Completely necessary if you drink too much coffee all day long and it is your job to think up new more complicated Latin names to rename the ones that already excist and worked good enough.

People with little experience with latin fungi names remember the name antillarum easily when shown and told in the field. Another way of people linking a name to the antillarum mushroom is just the nickname Snow Caps, used by some in Florida. I couldn't imagine too many being able to relay Panaeolus semiovatus variation phalaenarum readily back to me without saying "huh?".


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Re: ID puhlease, oh mush mush gurus [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #8180915 - 03/22/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

you could call them semi-copes...


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