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Funny.
    #817463 - 08/15/02 10:57 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Pro-lifers that eat meat, support the death penalty, and are willing to sacrifice the lives of thousands of citizens of their country so that thousands of citizens of another country can be slaughtered.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #817493 - 08/15/02 11:06 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I saw a bunch of people picketing in front of a fur coat store once, and half of the protestors were wearing leather jackets. Good stuff.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #817595 - 08/15/02 11:36 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You know what's funnier? Pro abortionists who are against the death penalty and pro abortionists who are for animal rights (but apparently not the rights of the human animal).

The important thing to remember about (most) supporters of the death penalty is that they believe it should be applied to someone who is guilty of murdering an innocent person. Anti-abortionists believe that abortion is the taking of an innocent human life. These positions taken together are not as inconsistent (in my mind) as the two pro abortionist examples that I have given.

Before you go labeling me as a right wing extremist, I will state that I am not advocating the outlawing of abortion by pointing this out and I have serious reservations about the application of the death penalty. I am merely stating what appears to be the obvious moral justifications in their positions.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #817624 - 08/15/02 11:45 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Pro-lifers that eat meat****

Meat that is animals not humans..duh!

****support the death penalty, and are willing to sacrifice the lives of thousands of citizens of their country so that thousands of citizens of another country can be slaughtered. ****

and your point is? What do babies do that makes them despensible?....survival of the fittest..you do watch the discovery channel don't you?


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    #817997 - 08/15/02 02:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Funny. [Re: Macey Howard]
    #818017 - 08/15/02 02:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

... prolifers KILLING dr's HAHAHAHAH!

The proper term is hypocrites.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Macey Howard]
    #819380 - 08/16/02 06:13 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer Dr.'s killing extreme pro-lifers..that would be neat


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #819599 - 08/16/02 07:56 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Babies don't do anything. They're pretty easy to make too.
Not that killing babies is good.
But if something can't even realize that it is alive,
and it feels no pain when it dies,
then there really isn't too much harm.

But we could make abortion illegal. Then we'd have back alley coathanger abortions, and crackwhores trying to raise five kids.

Unless you want to raise taxes to fund a program that provides care for thousands of children that have been abandoned or have unfit parents.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #819969 - 08/16/02 10:17 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Not that killing babies is good.****

Then we agree that killing babies is bad then..i knew you'd see it my way

****But if something can't even realize that it is alive,
and it feels no pain when it dies,
then there really isn't too much harm.****

typical cowards way out "it's too hard, lets kill it". I can't wait to see these people in the REAL world where the challenges are tougher.....didn't you just say that killing babies is wrong?

***But we could make abortion illegal.****

I don't think it should be illegal it's not me who has to explain why I was a coward.

****Unless you want to raise taxes to fund a program that provides care for thousands of children that have been abandoned or have unfit parents.****

you mean kind of like welfare?..wow that works great


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #820762 - 08/16/02 01:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

just say no.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #821642 - 08/16/02 06:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"typical cowards way out "it's too hard, lets kill it". I can't wait to see these people in the REAL world where the challenges are tougher.....didn't you just say that killing babies is wrong?"

Killing babies is wrong, but child abuse is worse. Just because the people that can't raise children may be stupid and inept doesn't mean we should force them to raise children. If it's the cowards way out, and they're all so weak and stupid, why do you want to make them raise children? It's just going to result in more abused, uneducated, and neglected children.

"Perhaps we should try to get to the root of the problem as to why these terrorists are attacking us. At least put in some sort of effort to resolve things peacefully, so we can establish ourselves as definately having the moral upper hand before resorting to violence"

"it's too hard, lets kill them"


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #822871 - 08/17/02 07:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Killing babies is wrong, but child abuse is worse.****

What?! are you insane or just ignorant?

****ust because the people that can't raise children may be stupid and inept doesn't mean we should force them to raise children****

I know because it's soooooo much easier to kill them..sheesh

****If it's the cowards way out, and they're all so weak and stupid,****

You said it...not me

****why do you want to make them raise children?****

It's called personal responsibility...look it up

****It's just going to result in more abused, uneducated, and neglected children.****

So we should just kill what is hard to cope with. Please enter the real world my man

****"it's too hard, lets kill them"****

Trying to equate innocent children to proven murderous coward terrorists is a far stretch....even for you. You really should learn the difference between apples and oranges...you're comming off as extremely ignorant


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #824338 - 08/17/02 07:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

How about we all just agree that sometimes killing is necessary. We just disagree on who to kill and when to kill them.

As far as sacrificing the lives of my countrymen to kill foreigners, you have it all wrong. I'll kill foreigners to prevent the deaths of thousands of my countrymen. Some of us will die, sure, but that's the chance we take. A few of us will die so that millions will live free.

Somebody is going to get creamed, either the decadent west or the islamofascists. I (and basically the rest of my fellow Americans) vote for the islamikazis. Since we are the most capable, our vote wins.



See that? No burka, and she's not being beaten by anyone. If we had to kill 10,000 evil goons to let that little girl play baseball unmolested, well, that sounds like a good deal. Multiply her by the 300 million or so Americans, and then again by whoever you want. The balance sheets look good.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Macey Howard]
    #824495 - 08/17/02 08:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****they also shoot DR's at the abortion clinics... prolifers KILLING dr's HAHAHAHAH!****

Murdering innocent people is wrong. Killing to save the lives of innocent people is justified in my opinion. These abortionists are serial murderers. Most are worse than Jeffery Dahmer or Ted Bundy due to the sheer quantity of lives they've taken. Abortionists violate the oath they take when they become physicians (to first do no harm). I don't believe it's morally wrong to kill a NAZI concentration camp guard in WW2 or an Einsatzgruppen soldier. By killing the murderers you are saving countless lives of innocent people. I believe killing abortionists is completely justified.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #824532 - 08/17/02 09:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

whoa...dude, your out there!! lol


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Re: Funny. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #824534 - 08/17/02 09:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

>>>>prolifers KILLING dr's HAHAHAHAH

"its irony on a base level, but i like it"


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #824949 - 08/18/02 07:30 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"It's called personal responsibility...look it up"
No shit it's called personal responsibility, and I don't know what little dream world you're living in, but where I come from, there's plenty of people who don't have it. That's often why they got pregnant in the first place. We don't put idiots in the pilot's seat of an airplane because they *should* be able to fly it, we put people in control who have proven that they have the ability to fly. If someone can't handle the responsibility of having children, then why the fuck should we force them to do it? They're just going to make more irresponsible, badly raised, neglected, and abused children. Just because someone is responsible doesn't mean their going to take responsibility.

It's not like we're not already facing overpopulation as it is. Why not throw in a few million more people that nobody even wants to take care of?

Babies that are aborted haven't even experienced conciousness. They don't know that they are alive, they have no knowledge of anything. They exist, and then they don't.

Wait? The terrorists are the cowards? They're blowing themselves up with their bombs. They don't care one bit for their own lives. The americans do everything they can to distance themselves from the actual combat. Sending missles, dropping bombs from planes. You've got pilots who've killed hundreds of people and never had to see a drop of blood. Sounds kinda murderous to me...
If you're going to tell me all's fair in war, well, it's war for the terrorists too. Their the ones who are having bombs dropped in populated cities on a daily basis. The US only got hit once, almost a year ago now.

Why do you think the US is only killing terrorists, anyways? Thousands of innocent people in Afghanistan are being bombed. A hell of a lot more Afghani citizens are dead now than people that were killed in the WTC.



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Re: Funny. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #824950 - 08/18/02 07:32 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Um...
Of course you realize it makes all pro-lifers look like a bunch of terrorists. It hardly furthers your cause.

Didn't you say you worked in an abortion clinic before? Why aren't you killing yourself?


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #825530 - 08/18/02 01:36 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"Republicans want live babies so they can grow up to be dead soldiers." --???


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Re: Funny. [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #825784 - 08/18/02 03:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

hehe
I like that quote.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #826514 - 08/18/02 07:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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A hell of a lot more Afghani citizens are dead now than people that were killed in the WTC.




That's been fully debunked. If it's true, please state number and the methodology used to come up with them.


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    #827299 - 08/19/02 06:02 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

If it's been fully debunked, you'd think that it'd be pretty easy for YOU to state some sources.

Here's a decent article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,648784,00.html

I couldn't find anything backing up your claim. Just under 3,000 people died in the WTC attack was the final tally.

The estimates are all over the map, but the lowest at the time that article was printed which was way back in Feburary, was between 2000 and 3000 afghan citizens, a number which has certainly shot up now.

Fully debunked my ass. Why not back yourself up.


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    #827308 - 08/19/02 06:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #827373 - 08/19/02 07:10 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****No shit it's called personal responsibility, and I don't know what little dream world you're living in***

the real world...try it someday you might not like it!

**** but where I come from, there's plenty of people who don't have it. That's often why they got pregnant in the first place****

so we shouldn't force people to take responsibility...man you sound like a fucking wussy. I hope you never have kids

****If someone can't handle the responsibility of having children, then why the fuck should we force them to do it?****

The great liberal answer...it's hard so lets kill it. Hell why we're at it why don't we pass out diplomas a universities because it's soo hard...uh wait a minute they are doing that.

****They're just going to make more irresponsible, badly raised, neglected, and abused children.*****

so we should kill the babies then?

****Babies that are aborted haven't even experienced conciousness They don't know that they are alive, they have no knowledge of anything. They exist, and then they don't.*****

and you're a higher being that knows this?

****Wait? The terrorists are the cowards? They're blowing themselves up with their bombs. They don't care one bit for their own lives.****

killing innocents that can't fight back is textbook cowardly acts. Get your head out of the sand my man and realize that any numbnut can blow themselves up..ie palastinian homocide bombers.

****The americans do everything they can to distance themselves from the actual combat*****

would you bring a knife to a gun fight? I can tell that you'd never be in the military..you'd get your ass kicked.

****Sending missles, dropping bombs from planes. You've got pilots who've killed hundreds of people and never had to see a drop of blood. Sounds kinda murderous to me... ****

Sounds like war to me...

****If you're going to tell me all's fair in war, well, it's war for the terrorists too.****

if they were killing military targets then i would have to agree but what strategy is it to blow up a grocery store?

****The US only got hit once, almost a year ago now****

to quote a classic Italian movie "if they put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of thiers in the morgue"...i feel absolutly no pity for them whatsoever.

****A hell of a lot more Afghani citizens are dead now than people that were killed in the WTC.****

"if they put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of thiers in the morgue"...


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #827442 - 08/19/02 07:56 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"killing innocents that can't fight back is textbook cowardly acts."

Exactly, stop bombing Afghan civilians then.

"****Babies that are aborted haven't even experienced conciousness They don't know that they are alive, they have no knowledge of anything. They exist, and then they don't.*****

and you're a higher being that knows this?"

Are you telling me you actually think that unborn fetuses are concious of the fact that they are alive? They've never seen anything, they don't understand the concept of sight, they can't possibly know that there are other concious beings out there, they literally receive no outside thoughts.

"if they were killing military targets then i would have to agree but what strategy is it to blow up a grocery store?" The same strategy used in dropping bombs on hospitals and weddings, I believe.

I'm not trying to defend the terrorists. They're a bunch of arrogant, ignorant assholes just like the americans.

Al Qaeda is not every single person in Afghanistan, they're a terrorist organizations scattered across the country. Randomly dropping bombs in cities there is about as fair as ramming airplanes into towers here.

"would you bring a knife to a gun fight? I can tell that you'd never be in the military..you'd get your ass kicked."

Both sides aren't fairly matched here. The terrorists are running head first into populated areas, and blowing themselves up, taking out civilians and themselves at the same time. I know I don't have the courage to do that, you probably don't either. But, I'm sure you probably have the courage to push a button and send a missle into a city, anyone could do that.

"if they put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of thiers in the morgue"

So much for justice...


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #827497 - 08/19/02 08:28 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Fetuses are not babies.


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    #827516 - 08/19/02 08:47 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for the input


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    #827524 - 08/19/02 08:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'm reminded of another point. It's the woman that has to carry the baby around, and the woman that gets stuck with it if the man takes off and doesn't pay child support. Which happens all the time, and would happen even more if abortion wasn't an option. You say that people should take responsibility for their actions, but the fact is that people simply won't take responsibility for their actions, no matter what you do.


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    #827526 - 08/19/02 08:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Exactly, stop bombing Afghan civilians then.****

the difference is that we are not targeting civilians no matter how much you useless canadians want to believe

****Are you telling me you actually think that unborn fetuses are concious of the fact that they are alive?****

you brought it up and i'm calling you on it. I believe it has a soul and is a being at conception. Wether it knows it's being murdered or not is not the issue. If i kill a liberal and he has no idea i'm doing it does that make it ok?

****I'm not trying to defend the terrorists. They're a bunch of arrogant, ignorant assholes just like the americans.****

Sure you are. Every other comment you make is a contradiction...as for me being arrogant, or americans in general, you're Canadian who cares what you think...it's not like you contribute much to the world as it is.

****Al Qaeda is not every single person in Afghanistan, they're a terrorist organizations scattered across the country. Randomly dropping bombs in cities there is about as fair as ramming airplanes into towers here.****

we don't have a policy of targeting civilians..they do. So what right?

****Both sides aren't fairly matched here.*****

Never start a match with those that can kick your ass...It's a good lesson to learn.

****The terrorists are running head first into populated areas, and blowing themselves up, taking out civilians and themselves at the same time.***

i.e.: Cowards

****I know I don't have the courage to do that, you probably don't either.****

Those that commit suicide don't have courage they have a screw loose.

**** I'm sure you probably have the courage to push a button and send a missle into a city, anyone could do that.****

Not the corage rather the know how to enact a weapons system where gun fights are fought with guns, not knives.

****So much for justice... ****

Who said we were out for justice? If you don't want to die then don't hurt our people. Seems fair to me.


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    #827533 - 08/19/02 09:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****It's the woman that has to carry the baby around, and the woman that gets stuck with it if the man takes off and doesn't pay child support. ****

I've always said that the laws governing the support of the women should be enforced and stuck to. Men who leave their kids and refuse to paid child support should be prosecuted. Unfortunatly women aren't ammune to personale responsibility either and the baby wasn't made by just the woman, it is the man's as well.

****Which happens all the time, and would happen even more if abortion wasn't an option.****

if it's tough lets kill it...it seems like there's a pattern in your thought process..hmmmm

****You say that people should take responsibility for their actions, but the fact is that people simply won't take responsibility for their actions, no matter what you do. ****

so you're saying since others that don't take responsibility, murder is the answer?.....why not murder the father and mother and those without personal responsibility will go extinct?


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    #827597 - 08/19/02 09:33 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

thanks for the input




Not a problem.

I just made a long post that I lost due to technical difficulties. I'll sum it up real quick: Fetuses are not babies. Babies should not be having babies. Crackwhores and alcoholics should not be having babies. People who get all up other peoples highly personal business need a slap.

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    #827667 - 08/19/02 10:16 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"the difference is that we are not targeting civilians no matter how much you useless canadians want to believe"

Doesn't matter who you're targeting. It matters who you kill. The road to hell was paved with good intentions.

"Sure you are. Every other comment you make is a contradiction...as for me being arrogant, or americans in general, you're Canadian who cares what you think...it's not like you contribute much to the world as it is."

I didn't mean all americans, just the ones that are involved in blowing up large chunks of other countries.


"Sure you are."

I have said NOTHING to defend terrorists. I think that both sides are equally retarded.


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    #827681 - 08/19/02 10:23 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Basically what I'm saying is: Abortion is not murder. A fetus is not yet a person. Some say "It has the potential to become a human."

To quote Bill Hicks, "I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest with a gym sock."

Should we be persecuting women for every period they have? Those are potential babies that were wasted. What about people who use condoms? They're murdering children!


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    #827693 - 08/19/02 10:28 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

***Fetuses are not babies***

that's your opinion...

****Crackwhores and alcoholics should not be having babies.****

agreed...or liberals

****People who get all up other peoples highly personal business need a slap.****

agreed, however it's the mans baby as well....you do know what a man isdon't you?...ignorant people should be slapped as well..just a thought

****It will never be a reality for you. Don't pretend it's close to your heart.****

My heart has nothing to do with it because I take personal responsibility unlike many here. There are consequences for actions taken...you better learn this soon or you "professional" life will become a surprise.

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    #827700 - 08/19/02 10:33 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Abortion is not murder.****

That's your opinion and i respect it....I think you're wrong but i respect it...lets see to it that your type of people let me express my opinion.

****To quote Bill Hicks, "I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest with a gym sock."****

touching...off topic but touching nonetheless

****Should we be persecuting women for every period they have?****

Do Not turn this into a womans right debate, it takes two to tango.....should men be prosectuted because they can't actually birth the children?

****Those are potential babies that were wasted*****

WRONG...without the man the egg is just that...an egg....and whatever happens to fall on your chest (yours or someoneeleses) is just that..sperm

****They're murdering children! ****

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    #827727 - 08/19/02 10:45 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

whoa dude, you really hate liberals. Would you define what a liberal is in your mind, without all the sarcasm?


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    #827777 - 08/19/02 11:15 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

http://www3.iptv.org/exploremore/ge/what/clone.cfm

You don't even need any sperm!

"Do Not turn this into a womans right debate, it takes two to tango.....should men be prosectuted because they can't actually birth the children?"

I'm not trying to turn it into a women's rights debate at all. I'm pointing out that eggs are potential babies that are wasted.

Using a condom is DEFINATELY preventing a potential child from being born. That's what they were invented for.


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    #827783 - 08/19/02 11:16 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The story you cite is ultimately based on the estimation of Professor Marc Herold of the University of New Hampshire, which in turn was largely based on report of the Associated Islamic Press, owned and operated by the Taliban.

That, however, is not the only problem with Professor Herold?s analysis. His count suffers from numerous other inaccuracies such as:

Double-counting. A cluster bomb incident in Shekar Qala, near Heart, killed 8 people plus one who later picked up an unexploded bomb. Herold seems to count this twice, on both Oct. 22 and Oct. 25. The deaths of Gul Ahmed, his wife, six children and his neighbor?s two children seem to be counted three times each (twice on the same day). There are several other examples.

Confusion of status. Herold counts as civilians at least eight Afghans slain in Landi Khiel near Tora Bora on Dec. 2. The reports make clear, however, that these were allied mujah?addin, who should not be included in a tally of civilian casualties, even if they were killed by mistake. There are also several examples of people claimed to have been killed in attacks in what were almost certainly legitimate targets, such as the compound of Mullah Omar or a Taliban-controlled power station.
Simple innacuracy. Mohammed Pardis is listed as having been killed on Oct. 17. The Chicago Tribune article cited in support, however, actually quotes Pardis saying his house was destroyed that day. There are other, similar mistakes throughout the report.

Professor Herold?s data selection and treatment are therefore both open to question. A STATS review of the data suggests that, on a careful reading, only 650 of the deaths he claims are in any way reliably reported. Giving the benefit of the doubt in some cases, such as those where western reporters were told that more people had been killed than they saw graves, raises the total to about 1100.

These numbers fit very well with two more circumspect reviews announced recently. The Associated Press (ibid) have examined hospital records, visited sites and interviewed eyewitnesses and have come up with an initial estimate ?in the mid-hundreds,? although they consider it likely that that figure will rise. Carl Conetta, of the Massachusetts based Project on Defense Alternatives, performed a similar press review to Professor Herold, but deliberately kept to reputable sources, and estimates between 1000 and 1300 civilian casualties. These numbers seem much more soundly based than the Herold figures.



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    #827814 - 08/19/02 11:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

On a related subject, the UNHCR (UN Refugee Agancy) has put the number of returned refugees so far at 1.5 million, and predicts an additional 3 million next year. These are people that were forced to flee the Taliban to preserve both their lives and freedom. They are now free to return home in relative safety.

As far as your assertion that we were 'randomly bombing' anyone, that is just silly. The US military kills people the most efficient way possible, and that's with deliberately targeted strikes. It doesn't always work, but it does the vast majority of the time. Even the UN and Amnesty International have made statements that the civilian casualties are much lower than expected. Compare this with something like Normandy in 1944.


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    #827825 - 08/19/02 11:29 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you need an egg and sperm..the two by themselves have the potential to be nothing....Cloning has nothing to do with the reproductive process that is being discussed...nice try though

****Using a condom is DEFINATELY preventing a potential child from being born. That's what they were invented for. ****

however you are not murdering babies by using a condom....maybe all the people who have no personal responsibility should use them...what a minute..their too dumb..nevermind


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    #827852 - 08/19/02 11:38 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

***whoa dude, you really hate liberals***

Actually most of my comments are meant to be tongue and cheek, however i do find them to be quite useless. The same goes for republicrates, lest you think i'm right of center.

****Would you define what a liberal is in your mind, without all the sarcasm?****

A liberal is a nice way of saying socialist. Liberals are those hypocrites that scream for the rights of men while supporting laws that limit rights given by the constitution, unless ofcourse it fits their "socialist" agenda. a good example would be the onslaught of political correctness that many people on this site are stuck on (as you can see i have no political correctness). To say that the modern day liberal is not socialist leaning would be absurd.

as for the sarcasm, it's almost hard not to use it when describing them..they're just silly in my book..intellectual inferiors.


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    #827881 - 08/19/02 11:46 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Killing to save the lives of innocent people is justified in my opinion


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    #827887 - 08/19/02 11:47 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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    #827897 - 08/19/02 11:50 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Why?...how is it any different?


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    #827925 - 08/19/02 12:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

name an innocent victim that was targeted...

for the record i don't believe in killing abortionist murderers....


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    #827938 - 08/19/02 12:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Phluck, I've held off responding to this post until I was sure of what I wanted to say.

You are a very silly person.


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    #827946 - 08/19/02 12:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

name an innocent victim that was targeted...


I would hardly consider GW Bush as innocent...


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i think you misunderstood me...i'll repeat myself a little more clear

Name an innocent person that the US has targeted as its primary objective


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    #828001 - 08/19/02 12:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What kinds of political correctness laws are you talking about?

I don't think that there should be any laws regarding what people say about race, sexuality or what have you, and when I argue with the ignorant closed minded pricks who do spout their short sighted bigoted nonsense, I'm not doing so because I don't think they should be allowed to voice their opinions. I'm arguing with them because they're assholes. I'm not sure there's a single person on this site who won't agree with me that freedom of speech is a good thing, and shouldn't be limited. You seem to have attached qualities to the "modern day liberal" that don't exist.

"The same goes for republicrates, lest you think i'm right of center." So, uh, your opinions are right wing? I'm confused.


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    #828019 - 08/19/02 12:43 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****What kinds of political correctness laws are you talking about?***

none..i was stating two different reasons why i think liberals are silly...political correctness and those agendas they support..not political correctness laws..that would really suck

****I don't think that there should be any laws regarding what people say about race, sexuality or what have you****

I agree

****when I argue with the ignorant closed minded pricks who do spout their short sighted bigoted nonsense, I'm not doing so because I don't think they should be allowed to voice their opinions. I'm arguing with them because they're assholes.****

as do I

****I'm not sure there's a single person on this site who won't agree with me that freedom of speech is a good thing, and shouldn't be limited. You seem to have attached qualities to the "modern day liberal" that don't exist.****

Under God....Hate crimes..etc.

Modern day liberals are emotional retards that have absolutly no thought process that doesn't involve thier emotions....2+2 is whatever you want it to be as long as your self esteem isn't hurt..blah, blah, blah.....

****"The same goes for republicrates, lest you think i'm right of center." So, uh, your opinions are right wing? I'm confused.****

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    #828229 - 08/19/02 02:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure there's a single person on this site who won't agree with me that freedom of speech is a good thing, and shouldn't be limited.




I won't spend a lot of time on this, political speech is what's protected, and the press. Using the time honored example of shouting fire in a crowded movie theatre, some speech must be regulated. And what about false advertising? Should that free speech be protected as well?


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    #828240 - 08/19/02 02:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

This is a sincere question so there is no sarcasm but:

Do Canadians have a freedom of speech clause in their constitution?


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This thread IS funny...


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    #828749 - 08/19/02 07:06 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion;
b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.

So yeah, we do.


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    #828783 - 08/19/02 07:20 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

False advertising = fraud, shouting "fire" = mischief or something. So when you use speech to commit other crimes, then I suppose it's not free.


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    #828992 - 08/19/02 08:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Canada does not have free speech or freedom of the press or of religion anymore. For discussing homosexuality from a biblical standpoint you can be prosecuted and radio stations fear broadcasting sermons on the subject because they will lose their license to broadcast. James Dobson's broadcasts on the subject weren't aired in the People's Rebublic of Canada due to that.


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    #829502 - 08/20/02 06:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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For discussing homosexuality from a biblical standpoint you can be prosecuted and radio stations fear broadcasting sermons on the subject because they will lose their license to broadcast.


That is such a load of shit...Canadians are probably more tolerant of gays than most countries..."Kids in the hall" is a fine example...they frequently show gay couples kissing on CBC (which I may not agree with, but that's their perogative)


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Re: Funny. [Re: Rono]
    #829555 - 08/20/02 07:12 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Canadians are probably more tolerant of gays than most countries****

However your country is very intollerant to your natives...less a less perfect as the day goes by


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829621 - 08/20/02 07:46 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You are right about that, but I have many Native freinds and they say that the abuse the Canadian Natives suffered pales in comparison to what the American Government has done to it's first nations people. In either case it is disgraceful, but that's not the battle I choose to fight.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Rono]
    #829746 - 08/20/02 08:42 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

**** have many Native freinds and they say that the abuse the Canadian Natives suffered pales in comparison to what the American Government has done to it's first nations people****

I thought there was a statute of limitations on accusations? The sad thing is it's going on right now.

****but that's not the battle I choose to fight.***

Wait a minute...it's ok to point out all our short-commings but everytime we bring them up it's something you guys don't want to discuss....it's not too far off point since this forum has grown its own legs....you silly canadians are worrying me now...


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829777 - 08/20/02 08:58 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I would be happy to discuss anything about Canada you like...shoot away.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #829904 - 08/20/02 10:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"Modern day liberals are emotional retards that have absolutly no thought process that doesn't involve thier emotions....2+2 is whatever you want it to be as long as your self esteem isn't hurt..blah, blah, blah....."


Pros to legalized abortion:

Reduces overpopulation
Reduces neglected, abused, and abandoned children which will become a boon to the state
Allows people live productive lives instead of ending up poor and uneducated due to teenage pregnancy

Cons to legalized abortion:
People are sad because fetuses don't get to be babies.

So uh, who's making decisions based on emotion?


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Re: Funny. [Re: Rono]
    #829916 - 08/20/02 10:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

What RailGun means is that Canada isn't tolerant of homophobia. He's a bigot, you see.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #829927 - 08/20/02 10:13 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Oh yeah, there's also lots of things that TV and radio stations in the US can't broadcast because they'll lose their liscense, so don't try and give me that bullshit. You've got the FCC, and we've got the CRTC. The CRTC is way more lax than the FCC. You won't see titties or hear the word "fuck" on american network television any time soon. It's standard fare in Canada.


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    #829931 - 08/20/02 10:15 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #830295 - 08/20/02 01:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

So...what's the topic again?

You guys are funny.


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Re: Funny. [Re: CherryBom]
    #830344 - 08/20/02 01:27 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The topic is absolutely everything. We're arguing all over the friggin' map. I love this thread.


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Re: Funny. [Re: Phluck]
    #831218 - 08/20/02 08:39 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Pros to legalized abortion:

Reduces overpopulation****

so does murder

****Reduces neglected, abused, and abandoned children which will become a boon to the state*****

so does personal responsibility

****Allows people live productive lives instead of ending up poor and uneducated due to teenage pregnancy****

see above response

****Cons to legalized abortion:
People are sad because fetuses don't get to be babies.****

and the moral breakdown in society, lack of personal responsibility, and murder.....i hope you never have kids..if you can that is..your pathetic

****So uh, who's making decisions based on emotion?****

welfare, socialization, political correctness, hate crime legislation, etc. are all based on emotion..and lack of personal reponsibility would fit in the middle of that because it's too hard...lets kill the babies..all cowards


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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #831637 - 08/20/02 11:37 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Are you volunteering to teach irresponsible people (who dont give a fuck about the abortion issue) personal respsonsibility?? If not, who's going to? The point is alot of people aren't responsible enough to do jack shit for their kids. They dont have any personal responsibility to begin with, thats why they have the kids in the first place. This has existed for a long time. The only difference between now and then is the world is becoming vastly over-populated.

If china didnt have its restrictions on babies, the overpopulation would be so phenomenol it would boggle the mind, and the entire country would be a starving third world shit-hole. I know some ultra-right wingers that would welcome that, but those are human beings over there(who gives a shit if they have a different govt) and the govt does what it does for the overall best intrest of the country, so they can at least try to feed their people.

It's the same thing here in the states in a way. Abortions save thousands of unwanted children from bleak hopeless futures. They also are, in a way, proactive measures against crime, violence, future abortions, and basically a repeating cycle of the very thing you are so against. I'm not really sure what i'm trying to say, but i think that saving children from a future of parents that dont care, mixed with poverty and crime is the moral thing to do. You really dont know for sure we're killing a soul, thats speculation basically a cultural paridigm that is learned. It's not even that, its a christian theroy.

I'm not pro-life and i'm not pro-abortion, I just think there are times when abortion is the moral thing to do. I even have a wierd little idea where i think there should be pre-requisettes for abortion, such as if parents come from a low income families(for teen pregnacy and stuff) or if someone has a hard drug habit, if someones mentally incompitent, if a women is raped, etc etc. stuff like that, then they CAN have abortions, because its the moral thing to do. Then on the other hand if its just stupid kids having sex, getting pregnant and not wanting to deal with the consequences, fuck em, they dont qualify. If they get back alley abortions or some shit, they get jail time. Of course that would mean a whole new organization to monitor this crap, and thats another issue entirely.

Actually, now that i think about it, the US is the only industrialized country in the world that considers abortion a moral issue rather than medical. Sooner or later NOT getting an abortion under certain circumstances will be illegal due to over-population issues, so this whole arguement is irrelevant on a larger scale.

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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #832132 - 08/21/02 07:00 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"so does personal responsibility"

Sure, but it's impossible to create personal responsibility out of nowhere. It's simply not going to happen. There is absolutely no way in hell you can make people magically be responsible. It won't happen. The only way you could even try would take massive government funded programs... that wouldn't work anyways.

You sound a lot like drug war politicians.
"People should stop using drugs. That's why we have laws against them."

"But the laws don't work, people are still using..."

"They should stop using drugs."

"How do you plan to..."

"They should stop using drugs."

Why exactly do you hope I never have kids? I like kids. I think I'm pretty good with them.

"moral breakdown in society"
What moral breakdown in society? Society is definately not worse off morally now than before. There's actually a psychological quirk, I forget what they call it, but it stems from nostalgic emotions about the past. Almost every old person will feel that the way of life when they were younger was better in almost every way, even if crime and disease have dropped, and they now live in luxury. This results in people constantly complaining about how the moral fabric of society is fading away when in reality nothing is really changing.


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Re: Funny. [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #832250 - 08/21/02 08:27 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****Are you volunteering to teach irresponsible people ****

are you? no i'm suggesting ways to discourage this sort of behavior by not accepting it. The way something becomes the norm is by people accepting bad behavior (warning this is not politically correct). I'm not for making abortion illegal because i believe those that do will have to answer to thier own God not mine, however i do feel the need to express my opinion as to how cowardly this is. This is today's reaction to everything "if it's hard, stop it. Humiliation can be a good thing.

****If china didnt have its restrictions on babies****

we're not China so who cares? China has it's own value system..which in my opinion is pathetic.

****and the entire country would be a starving third world shit-hole.****

it's pretty close to that right now

***the govt does what it does for the overall best intrest of the country***

no the government does things for the best interest of the government....it's China after all

****Abortions save thousands of unwanted children from bleak hopeless futures****

by giving them no future? Now that makes sense. My sister was an opps baby, she's now pretty successful but what would her future have been if she was aborted?

****They also are, in a way, proactive measures against crime, violence, future abortions****

this is just absurd. I know people who use abortion as a birth control method....as for crime you're assuming only those with "hard lives" are those that commit crime...profiling?

****I'm not really sure what i'm trying to say, but i think that saving children from a future of parents that dont care, mixed with poverty and crime is the moral thing to do.****

My father left my family when i was around 8 and he couldn't of given two shits about us. Just because a parent doesn't care doesn't mean life is done. I make more money then he does now, i have a stable job and am married living in a nice neighborhood. What if they aborted me because they didn't care? what future would I have?

Moral thing to do? That's warped logic.

****You really dont know for sure we're killing a soul, thats speculation basically a cultural paridigm that is learned. It's not even that, its a christian theroy.****

Just as you don't know if you aren't killing a soul...i'll stick with my assumption thank you...what's wrong with christion logic?

****I even have a wierd little idea where i think there should be pre-requisettes for abortion, such as if parents come from a low income families****

Some of the smartest people in the world came from low-income families...

****or if someone has a hard drug habit, if someones mentally incompitent, if a women is raped,****

this would have to be were i agree with you....

****Then on the other hand if its just stupid kids having sex, getting pregnant and not wanting to deal with the consequences, fuck em, they dont qualify****

doesn't that contradict what you and others have been saying? I agree with you but it's not what's being said.

****Actually, now that i think about it, the US is the only industrialized country in the world that considers abortion a moral issue rather than medical.****

no i think 50% of the people do..not America in general





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Re: Funny. [Re: Innvertigo]
    #832695 - 08/21/02 11:28 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Trying to change Phluck's opinions by ragging on him everywhere he goes with intentionally arrogant, pseudo-elegant proses is like arguing with a Tree. No matter how much you scream and yell at a tree, it will just stand there looking peaceful.

You'll get through to people a lot more effectively if you show them some respect, rather than turning your nose up in the air with words like "however" and "quite". Those words have their place, but not in giving people the illusion of a well-thought out perspective on any issue.

Phluck would be the last person to be affected by intimidation tactics, subtle or otherwise.


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    #834101 - 08/21/02 07:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

****rather than turning your nose up in the air with words like "however" and "quite". Those words have their place, but not in giving people the illusion of a well-thought out perspective on any issue.****

great, now i have to change my grammar because you perceive it to be too "smart"?

i'll trailor park it up for you if it helps...y'all


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