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 Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me 
#8168641 - 03/19/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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To me it says
"I am so influenced by some dipshit fad and what others are doing that I am willing to put holes in my skin and even permanently etch my skin with ink."
For some reason I wanted to say that.
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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.
You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.
I disendorse you.[/quote]
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168649 - 03/19/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Says the same to me.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168658 - 03/19/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I definitely see it for piercings
not so much for tattoos
if your getting a tattoo and being somewhat logical about it, you realize that it will be there your whole life. so hopefully you get something that will always have meaning to you
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168677 - 03/19/08 07:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I feel like that too.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: mikeytro]
#8168679 - 03/19/08 07:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think tattoos and piercings look pretty good when you are a teenager, but man, when you hit 30, you look like a total douche.
Kat Von D looks pretty good now, but when she gets older, it aint gonna be pretty.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168701 - 03/19/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I see it the same way one might see any item of clothing or accessory. Whether you agree or not, for some people it helps define them in a world of over 6 billion people. Everyone is striving to be unique in their own way. Judging them for what they like on their own body is the same as judging them simply because of the way they dress. There's always more to any tattoo or piercing, and if all you can see is "omg fad" you're not worthy of judging anyone.
I mean you seem like a chill guy but judging someone based on their appearance, which is essentially what you are doing, is always a step towards ignorance. It's just as bad as judging someone for doing drugs such as shrooms or pot, or in some cases judging someone based on the mistakes they've made in the past.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: appleorange]
#8168712 - 03/19/08 07:36 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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the genius die young
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Innominate]
#8168721 - 03/19/08 07:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I find them hot. 
Some people find them appealing, and some people like how they look with them.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Innominate]
#8168728 - 03/19/08 07:40 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why was that directed at me
I was just making the observation that piercings do tend to be a fad type thing. Is there really anything more to a piercing? to me it just screams look at me and my alternative look
partially because I've known multiple people who have had one at a point in their lives and taken it out after they grew out of whatever they were digging or whatever
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: mikeytro]
#8168745 - 03/19/08 07:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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My bad, it was directed towards the OP.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168770 - 03/19/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tattooing has been a Eurasian practice at least since Neolithic times. Ötzi the Iceman, dating from the fourth to fifth millennium BCE, was found in the Ötz valley in the Alps and had approximately 57 carbon tattoos consisting of simple dots and lines on his lower spine, behind his left knee, and on his right ankle. Other mummies bearing tattoos and dating from the end of the second millennium BCE have been discovered at Pazyryk on the Ukok Plateau. Tattooing in Japan is thought to go back to the Paleolithic era, some ten thousand years ago. Various other cultures have had their own tattoo traditions, ranging from rubbing cuts and other wounds with ashes, to hand-pricking the skin to insert dyes.
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Evidence suggests that body piercing (including ear piercing) has been practiced by peoples all over the world from ancient times. Mummified bodies with piercings have been discovered, including the oldest mummified body discovered to date, that of Ötzi the Iceman, which was found in a Valentina Trujillon glacier. This mummy had an ear piercing 7–11 mm (1 to 000 gauge in AWG) diameter.[1]
In Book of Genesis of the Bible 24:22, Abraham's servant gave a nose ring and bracelets to Rebekah, wife of his son Isaac. In Exodus 32, Aaron makes the golden calf from melted earrings. Deuteronomy 15:12–17 dictates ear piercing as a mark of slavery. Nose piercing has been common in India since the sixteenth century.
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Ear piercing, of either or both ears, has long been practiced by men in many non-Western cultures. Other forms of body piercing have also existed continuously for as long as ear piercing. For example, women in India routinely practice nostril piercing, and have done so for centuries.
A fad? 
Perhaps this new trend with piercing every possible location on your face you can find... and getting tattoos of meaningless crap and cartoon characters to be "cool", is stupid.
But both tattoos and piercings historically go back thousands upon thousands of years.. many cultures use them for spiritual purposes and rites of passage into the society or clan. To suggest that this is some sort of fad, or that every tattoo and piercing is stupid.... is a stupid generalization.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Innominate]
#8168779 - 03/19/08 07:50 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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For me it's not about fitting in with a fad it's about piercings and tats being visually appealing, especially when tattoos have meaning. I see piercings as more of a release through pain kind of thing. And then you get to sport your medal as a testament to the pain you endured, although that pain releases a lot of pinned up aggression and negativity.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8168792 - 03/19/08 07:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know about the whole fad thing...
but I just think it's completely bizarre that we poke holes in our bodies and put metal through the holes.
Just so... weird.
Probably not the weirdest thing we do, for sure, but still...
Tattoos make more sense to me than makeup.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: boxcarguy07]
#8168810 - 03/19/08 07:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have piercings anymore. But I see them as a perfectly normal thing. I guess it's just perspective.
Some cultures, piercings are an integral part of their culture.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: boxcarguy07]
#8168811 - 03/19/08 07:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I couldn't stand pain of ether.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Brainiac]
#8168831 - 03/19/08 07:58 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's a beautiful experience.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Brainiac]
#8168838 - 03/19/08 07:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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The pain is half the fun.
These tattoo guns nowadays are nothing.
Try a traditional tattoo... where they use a sharpened piece of bamboo and a hammer.. and chisel the design into your skin, which they then pour ink into the channels. That was how all tattoos were done before electricity.. and most traditional Japanese tattoos, as well as many South American tribes continue to this day.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: urtrippin]
#8168854 - 03/19/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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People are weird when they want to poke holes or color their skin - but not as weird as "two girls, one cup"
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168859 - 03/19/08 08:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said:
To me it says
"I am so influenced by some dipshit fad and what others are doing that I am willing to put holes in my skin and even permanently etch my skin with ink."
For some reason I wanted to say that.
it's definitely not a fad.
personally i dont have any tattoos or piercing and dont plan to get any...but i am attracted to girls that have piercings for some reason. when girls have tattoos though, i find it unattractive and tacky.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: urtrippin]
#8168861 - 03/19/08 08:04 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's body art. Botton line is it's their body.
You have your own body you can do whatever you want with.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8168868 - 03/19/08 08:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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how about the Maori Tattoos
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: LayYouIn]
#8168870 - 03/19/08 08:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
LayYouIn said:
when girls have tattoos though, i find it unattractive and tacky.
QFT...for majority of cases atleast
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Brainiac]
#8168876 - 03/19/08 08:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yep same thing
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8168909 - 03/19/08 08:13 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
The pain is half the fun.
These tattoo guns nowadays are nothing.
Try a traditional tattoo... where they use a sharpened piece of bamboo and a hammer.. and chisel the design into your skin, which they then pour ink into the channels. That was how all tattoos were done before electricity.. and most traditional Japanese tattoos, as well as many South American tribes continue to this day.
I would love to get a kick ass tattoo in the traditional style in like fiji or new zealand or something.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168920 - 03/19/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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i agree, but there is one form/method of tattoo i would gladly have done to my body, if i ever found reason for it
i don't know a specific name, but i saw on the travel channel many years ago these tropical peoples who took a stick with a small metal piece with two prongs; they would break the skin with the prong, then fill the wound in with a natural black ink from some plant. a session lasted anywhere from 6-12 hours and multiple sessions were needed to complete any single tattoo
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: demiu5]
#8168938 - 03/19/08 08:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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in the polynesian islands they use boar tusk and a bamboo stick and a stone.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8168961 - 03/19/08 08:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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the stone was probably the metal i'm thinking of. it may have been in the polynesians; i saw this like 7 years ago
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8168968 - 03/19/08 08:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why? its self expression..I'm getting a tattoo sometime or some in fact if i can afford it.
I have both my earlobes pierced twice in both lobes...
I think Tats are cool as long as it is good artwork and not shitty amateur shit that looks like a little kid drew on themselves.
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Skunk420]
#8168993 - 03/19/08 08:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Skunk420 said:
Why? its self expression..I'm getting a tattoo sometime or some in fact if i can afford it.
I have both my earlobes pierced twice in both lobes...
I think Tats are cool as long as it is good artwork and not shitty amateur shit that looks like a little kid drew on themselves.
You'll grow to regret it if you do. You'll get sick of seeing that shit on your skin. And you'll probably find yourself stuck with lower quality lovers as well.
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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.
You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.
I disendorse you.[/quote]
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Brainiac]
#8169011 - 03/19/08 08:36 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Brainiac said:
I couldn't stand pain of ether.
..pussy!! I pierced both my earlobes myself with a thick guage safety pin..i numbed my ears with ice..and i sterilized the safety pin buy using a lighter flame to it..
I waited until i thought it was numb enough and then did it myself..they still look good to this day.
and i personally guaged them out to a 14...
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8169023 - 03/19/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said:
Quote:
Skunk420 said:
Why? its self expression..I'm getting a tattoo sometime or some in fact if i can afford it.
I have both my earlobes pierced twice in both lobes...
I think Tats are cool as long as it is good artwork and not shitty amateur shit that looks like a little kid drew on themselves.
You'll grow to regret it if you do. You'll get sick of seeing that shit on your skin. And you'll probably find yourself stuck with lower quality lovers as well.
..I doubt that, I see peeps with tats and piercings all the time and I live in Utah.
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Skunk420]
#8169032 - 03/19/08 08:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah but don't you want to be able to convince some young Mormon bitch to let you pound her in the ass while her 'fiance' is on his mission?
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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.
You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.
I disendorse you.[/quote]
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8169278 - 03/19/08 09:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said:
Quote:
Skunk420 said:
Why? its self expression..I'm getting a tattoo sometime or some in fact if i can afford it.
I have both my earlobes pierced twice in both lobes...
I think Tats are cool as long as it is good artwork and not shitty amateur shit that looks like a little kid drew on themselves.
You'll grow to regret it if you do. You'll get sick of seeing that shit on your skin. And you'll probably find yourself stuck with lower quality lovers as well.
Judging by your anti-ink attitude, I'm assuming you don't have any tattoos of your own.
If that's the case, then how the fuck would you know how other people feel about theirs?
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: MiddleFinger]
#8169526 - 03/19/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I definitely do not consider tattoos to be a fad, or even piercings. The way they are used, yes can be trendy.
I consider myself to be heavily tattooed compared to others my age (21). However, none are generally visible to the public unless I choose. They all have meaning in my life, and I like to think that they chart my life experience in an artform that has been enjoyed by my ancestors since the dawn of civilization.
I personally love the look of heavily tattooed people, male, female, young, and old. I love girls with tatts, and I like the look as it ages. To me it adds depth to the character. Show me a person with a tattoo and I'll show you a person with a story.
That said, not every tattoo has a story, which is fine, it can be trendy, which is fine. Some people are in to that, it's cool. It can be annoying to people like the OP, and for some who are really into tattoos, it is just as annoying.
I'm somewhere in the middle. I love tattoos, I love the look, I love the concept, for me they are deeply personal, I doubt I will ever get any that can't be hidden. They are only for me. I don't like the trendies, but I do appreciate them for what they are and what they represent.
I dunno, think what you will of tattoos, that's my 2 cents and that's all I can really say. Sorry for the tangent.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8169626 - 03/19/08 10:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think tatoo's are hard to find, as in, ones that actually will always represent you, through whatever phase our new outlooks you get on life throught your journey here
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: wilgi]
#8169968 - 03/19/08 11:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with both sides, trendy/not thought out tattoos are stupid and annoying, but ones with meaning and that are well placed can look really nice. I might get one this fall... I would want it to be important.
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my friend got "to all the love thats left me" on his ribs for his mom who passed away, i can relate having lost a father, i would get somthing in his memory, something like that is fine i think, it was about 2 hours, i advise everyone to take some xanax or a pain killer, and a few shots, the artist who did his said he cant go without, all the blood thinning is myth, the 2 hours he had to do it sober were brutal to watch, he was shaking, so be prepared hah
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: wilgi]
#8170104 - 03/20/08 12:10 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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The blood thinning is NOT a myth. But that mostly pertains to drinking the night before.. drinking right before the tattoo will not thin your blood enough to make a huge difference. But Alcohol will thin your blood and so will aspirin. I've seen it happen, you will bleed like a stuck pig and most responsible tattoo artists will refuse to tattoo you.
And the pain depends on where you get the tattoo. When I had my arms done, it was an annoying pain but not bad at all. I was sober except for smoking some bowls while being tattooed. After about 30 minutes, your endorphins start to kick in anyway, and you just sort of go numb and go into a trance.
When I had my chest done..specifically the area around the sternum.. that was a whole different story. The pain was so extreme, the tattoo artist had to stop. The next time I went in, I took a bunch of vocodins and drank some alcohol before I went.. it still hurt like a mother fucker. I was shaking pretty much the whole time.. that was some serious pain. I imagine certain places on the body just hurt a lot more than others, I've heard the back can be rather painful as well as the legs.. I know for a fact the chest hurts especially if you dont have much/any fat.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
The blood thinning is NOT a myth. But that mostly pertains to drinking the night before.. drinking right before the tattoo will not thin your blood enough to make a huge difference. But Alcohol will thin your blood and so will aspirin. I've seen it happen, you will bleed like a stuck pig and most responsible tattoo artists will refuse to tattoo you.
And the pain depends on where you get the tattoo. When I had my arms done, it was an annoying pain but not bad at all. I was sober except for smoking some bowls while being tattooed. After about 30 minutes, your endorphins start to kick in anyway, and you just sort of go numb and go into a trance.
When I had my chest done..specifically the area around the sternum.. that was a whole different story. The pain was so extreme, the tattoo artist had to stop. The next time I went in, I took a bunch of vocodins and drank some alcohol before I went.. it still hurt like a mother fucker.
but the night before... hmm, doubt it, id like to see it for myself, pain killers and alchohal alone the night before, is radical anyways
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: wilgi]
#8170147 - 03/20/08 12:19 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/01-ear/A10810/earireco.html
Trust me bro, my best friend is a tattoo artist. I've seen it happen tons of times. He refuses to tattoo people who have drank heavily the night before now because they bleed so much the ink does not take and the tattoo ends up looking like shit. Don't "test out" what thousands of other people already know.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8170165 - 03/20/08 12:23 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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self expression, duh, we all want to be unique. why not get a tattoo, something that is symbolic to you. for some it is a fad, but for most its self expression. how do you express yourself? how do you wear your hair? what kind of shoes do you wear? how do you think of yourself?
get a tattoo, something you draw yourself or a symbol, you will feel differently.
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wilgi
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8170168 - 03/20/08 12:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/01-ear/A10810/earireco.html
Trust me bro, my best friend is a tattoo artist. I've seen it happen tons of times. He refuses to tattoo people who have drank heavily the night before now because they bleed so much the ink does not take and the tattoo ends up looking like shit.
i know i believe you, this information should be more available, people have a lot of different opinions, thanks tho! 
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: wilgi]
#8170176 - 03/20/08 12:27 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any tattoo artist worth their salt will tell you all this. They will also ask if you had been drinking the night before or earlier that day.. because it does make a big difference.
It's scratchers and "back-alley" tattoo artists you have to watch out for. They wouldn't give a shit how much you bleed.
A little blood is normal.. but the most blood I have seen after being tattooed is a bunch of little droplets forming an hour or two after the tattoo. People whose blood is thinned bleed all over the place while they are being tatooed.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: ichaelma]
#8170188 - 03/20/08 12:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think some tattoos are good and some are just lame. I've seen tons of girls with almost identical tattoos or someone that got it because their friend did and it was "cool" but there are other people that consider it a work of art and want to make their body a canvas. I think some tattoos are tasteful and look really nice. As for the whole getting older thing, if it's a nice tattoo by the time a tattoo gets ugly the person will probably be ugly anyway.
I don't think piercings are a big deal. Unless you get them really infected you can take them out and have no scar. I've had tons of piercings and you can't tell I had some that I took out. It's like wearing a necklace or bracelet you like but instead of around you it's through you.
And besides, if someone wants to go through the pain and money and come out looking like a douche bag, who cares? It's their body and they'll have to live with it, not you.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: ClashingTaco]
#8170210 - 03/20/08 12:36 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah.. having a friend as a tattoo artist I've seen a good majority of these people that just want some random ink on their skin they don't really put any thought into at all. It's pretty sad really. Like they will come in and look through a book and be like Ooooh I want that!. Without putting any thought into it.. all my tattoos are custom and I drew up myself and planned them and thought about them for at least a month or two before getting them. My friend prefers to do custom work, but money is money and if dumb girl number 410 wants some random piece of flash he'll do it. I can't tell you how many chicks I've seen get some variation of the same damn butterfly on their lower back. IMO a tattoo should be an extension of your personality and say something about you as a person.. and if you have the same damn tattoo that 50,000 other people have then what does that say?
But it's their body. Even if they'll regret it later it's their choice.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: wilgi]
#8170244 - 03/20/08 12:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tattoo's and piercing are NOT a fad. However in many cases trends do dictate the reasons people modify themselves (this is evident with tongue piercings, and band tattoos.)
However, there are some of us who view it in more of an eloquent and directed social sense.
I refuse to believe that the lady i settle with be somehow lower quality because of my tattoos, or that i will be "a blue collar worker" or some such denegrate...
1st off - with generation x especially, such a populous is getting modified, it is becomming much more accepted and common as our society grows more liberal minded.
Really, i believe that being consciously modified leads some to personal empowerment and a more directed lifestyle. Being visibly modified for some (large minority) leads us to live our life with intention, reminds us of our dreams and our possibilities and reminds us that we are outside of the sum of outsiders assumptions.
This fellow is perhaps the best example of that: http://www.ineedmorelife.com/blog/
For me... my among many other things, including my chickens, my dreadlocks, and even my tattoos (not that i think about it like that.) - remind me that i am DIFFERENT than everyone else. I am off on a solo bike trip across 4 bike countries in South america in 20-some-days...
However, i can sympathasize with the nay sayers and the original poster - because many people, especially young people make very bad decisions about how they express themselves at a vulnerable and confusing time of their lives. Many DO regret their modification choices because they went into it with the wrong attitude, and oneday will want to undo the not undo'able.
All i ask is that you keep an open mind - and if you cant do that, ill live my life - unashamed outside of the consensus 9-5 world.
I would never want to be anything less than radical and would never want to blend into the bland world of try to hard, vain, judgemental, people who condemn me. Afterall, they probably wear scents which chemically confuse the fairer sexes mind, dye their hair, and tan their skin, shave their legs, etc... for no less than superficial reasons.
But, thats just me.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: PDU]
#8170264 - 03/20/08 01:04 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: PDU]
#8170432 - 03/20/08 04:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm glad I started this thread. Some of the pro-body-modification posts have been really insightful. You get some really thoughtful people on the Shroomery (as well as a lot of adolescent bullshit). I'll concede that 'fad' is the wrong word since it has been around so long. That's like calling smoking weed a fad. BUT, I still say there's a certain trendiness to it that turns me off. If I go to a club and see a band, and let's say there are 400 people there and like 90% have tattoos, probably all of them are just bullshit tattoos. I can't help thinking 'what a bunch of group thinking cunts'. Maybe I need to lighten up, maybe it's lame to judge people but that's what goes through my mind. Everybody is a product of their own time and place but I feel like I have always done better than average at limiting the impact of conformity. On the other hand, hundreds of millions of other people are typing on their computers wearing t-shirts and boxers right now so I guess I better stop pretending. I will say this to those of you in your early twenties: If you want a tattoo wait ten years to get it, if you still wannt it, cool, and you'll still have it for thirty to fifty more years. That's my advice. If you cover up your arms and so on by the time you're twenty-five you'll still wake up with the same stupid designs on your body when you're 85. That's 60 fucking years!
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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.
You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8170481 - 03/20/08 05:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've always thought the same thing. I'm just not swayed enough by anything to etch it on to my skin forever. A lot of people I know get some sort of Canadian flag design, or sports team logo ( ), and I smirk and
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Cameron]
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8170518 - 03/20/08 05:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alcohol the night before definitely does not help. Neither have pain killers in my experience.
I wait till afterwards for the painkillers and weed. Weed makes it hurt more during.
I've done coke while getting tattooed and it actually helped, probably still not a good idea though.
Be sober, experience the pain, earn the tattoo. It's part of the process.
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Re: Piercing and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#8170522 - 03/20/08 05:56 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said:
You'll grow to regret it if you do. You'll get sick of seeing that shit on your skin. And you'll probably find yourself stuck with lower quality lovers as well.
let me officially call bullshit on this one... lower quality lovers? what the fuck is that supposed to mean? i have gotten laid the same amount before and after my tattoos... maybe even more afterwards... and the quality of the girls just keeps getting better and better...
and as for the first argument... all my tats are on my back and have meaning... i have to go to a mirror to see them hence i don't think i'll get tired of them... and even if i do, each and every one of them means something to me which is enough reason to keep them...
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Shroomism]
#8170553 - 03/20/08 06:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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MY GF GOT HER CARTILAGE PEIRCED AND NOW SHE DOESNT LET ME PLAY WITH THER EARS AS MUCH.
peircings that cause pain suck fuck those motherfuckers.
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: pong]
#8170586 - 03/20/08 06:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
pong said:
MY GF GOT HER CARTILAGE PEIRCED AND NOW SHE DOESNT LET ME PLAY WITH THER EARS AS MUCH.
peircings that cause pain suck fuck those motherfuckers.
just be thankful she didn't pierce her clit... although once it heals a clit piercing is a sweet thing...
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: In(di)go]
#8171656 - 03/20/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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i want a pentagram
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Re: Piercings and Tattoos Seem so Stupid to Me [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8171733 - 03/20/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said:
That is Soooo lame.
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