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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: cleeen]
    #8387573 - 05/10/08 11:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

CLEEN can you contact me, I wanted to follow up with you re last years messages :smile:

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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: johnm214]
    #10368467 - 05/20/09 07:17 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: thaddeus]
    #10369311 - 05/20/09 11:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

You must have learned quantum secrets in time travelling or something because this topic is a year old.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: MDMC] * 2
    #28401290 - 07/20/23 12:21 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

All these people arrogantly talking as if its just so silly to think consciousness has anything to do with it are frankly laughable.  The men who created the field of quantum physics, they thought it was quite clear that consciousness itself causes the collapse of the wave function.  It’s called the Copenhagen interpretation because that’s where Bohr, and Heisenberg, and all those guys used to live.  Einstein didnt like it, but he never came up with any convincing refutation of it.  You can find prominent physicists today discussing this simply on YouTube, their opinions congruent with Copenhagen.  Sure, there are other theories on how it might work, but none are very convincing.  If we knew the answer and it had been explained from a deterministic standpoint, then the unified theory uniting quantum mechanics and relativity would already be in our grasp.  Simulation theory offers a reasonable explanation of it, as do the mystical traditions that view consciousness as primary, and see the universe as basically a dream (simulation) in the mind of God/us.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The Double-Slit Experiment [Re: MDMC] * 3
    #28401695 - 07/20/23 11:45 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

This is one of my favorite experiments of all time. Light is both a wave and a particle? How?! The experiment is affected just by observing it? Impossible! The implications of this unique experiment are truly fascinating.

A cool YouTube video detailing the history and application of the Double-Slit Experiment:



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Re: Quantum Physics - The Double-Slit Experiment [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28401798 - 07/20/23 01:54 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Is there the one showing light as a particle? I looked for it but didn't see one that seems to follow like with the water front scene.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The Double-Slit Experiment [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28401799 - 07/20/23 01:56 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Whoops!

Let me find one for ya.

Laser science anyone?



The Photoelectric Effect and Photon particles:



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Re: Quantum Physics - The Double-Slit Experiment [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28401859 - 07/20/23 02:57 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Nice, photo electric effect refresher. This one shows the duality in the double slit with observer effect at 6:48.



This one brings light as the probability wave.



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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Beluga]
    #28408854 - 07/26/23 06:45 AM (5 months, 30 days ago)

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All these people arrogantly talking as if its just so silly to think consciousness has anything to do with it are frankly laughable.  The men who created the field of quantum physics, they thought it was quite clear that consciousness itself causes the collapse of the wave function.  It’s called the Copenhagen interpretation because that’s where Bohr, and Heisenberg, and all those guys used to live.  Einstein didnt like it, but he never came up with any convincing refutation of it.  You can find prominent physicists today discussing this simply on YouTube, their opinions congruent with Copenhagen.  Sure, there are other theories on how it might work, but none are very convincing.  If we knew the answer and it had been explained from a deterministic standpoint, then the unified theory uniting quantum mechanics and relativity would already be in our grasp.  Simulation theory offers a reasonable explanation of it, as do the mystical traditions that view consciousness as primary, and see the universe as basically a dream (simulation) in the mind of God/us.





This quote irks me.  It is fundamentally a lie, as Heisenberg himself notes:
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"Of course the introduction of the observer must not be misunderstood to imply that some kind of subjective features are to be brought into the description of nature. The observer has, rather, only the function of registering decisions, i.e., processes in space and time, and it does not matter whether the observer is an apparatus or a human being; but the registration, i.e., the transition from the "possible" to the "actual," is absolutely necessary here and cannot be omitted from the interpretation of quantum theory." - Werner Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy, p. 137




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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Ice9]
    #28408933 - 07/26/23 08:56 AM (5 months, 30 days ago)

I think Heisenberg is basically just saying when you observe a particle that is small enough it appears to be a wave When You observe it in one way and then a solid particle When You observe it in another way. Which seems totally contradictive to the laws of physics as we know them. But then it seems to me pretty much everything that you dive into with quantum physics seems totally contradictive to the world of physics as we know them. I don't think Heisenberg knows why Schrodingers cat is both alive and dead when you look in the box. He just knows it is and it's uncertain. Therefore = uncertainty principle.

I much prefer the fundamentals of quantum physics where most of the basis for what these principles are built on is how uncertain quantum physics behave to begin with. For example my big issue with black holes is all the very "certain" properties that people associate with black holes. Time dilation. Light can be trapped by gravity. Light has a universal speed limit but regardless in a black hole it can be sucked back into the singularity faster than the speed of light. The infinite properties of the black hole. Time being a fourth dimension that can be manipulated therefore space and time can be manipulated instead of time simply being a state of perception that the mind creates to show relative past and future when when such data perception is only that and time really doesn't exist in such a flow only as a state of perception.

I feel like so many fundamental things and pieces of science that humans have spent so long establishing are just totally broken when people start discussing black holes. This is primarily why I don't believe in black holes. There are changes in gravity way deep in space and there are points where light doesn't seem to get through something where it should be able to. This is everything we've base black holes on and then it turns into all this time dilation light affected by gravity unbroken speed limits being able to be broken classifying time as a fourth dimension. Etc etc etc. This is not how these physics work on Earth. This is not how gravity works on Earth. This is not how light works on Earth. This is not have time works on Earth. Yeah people have not only qualified that black holes are real they know everything about them.

To be uncertainties are the basic principles of building blocks of quantum physics to begin with. I've never disagreed with Heisenberg. He is certain about uncertainty and I think that's the most honest statement anyone can actually make about quantum physics.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #28412902 - 07/29/23 01:16 PM (5 months, 27 days ago)

No, what Heisenberg is saying is the observer can be an inanimate object such as a photomultiplier detector.  Since the observer is inanimate, the observer has no subjective views and is not conscious, ergo, an observers subjective viewpoint and consciousness plays NO part in the observer effect.

Therefore, the statement I quoted that said

"The men who created the field of quantum physics, they thought it was quite clear that consciousness itself causes the collapse of the wave function." 

is clearly an outright lie.

Uncertainty principle and observer effect are not the same thing and people in this thread keep conflating them. :crankey:


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28413378 - 07/29/23 11:27 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

So the uncertainity principle involves the unpredictability of the quantum nature of wave-particles aka photons while the observer effect involves Human consciousness direct effect on photons at a quantum level?


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Ice9]
    #28414168 - 07/30/23 03:52 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

I never knew that he actually had a machine that observed the very small particles. I thought it was all observed with the naked eye.

I'm not saying that he said that the particles changed because of the human perception of observing them. What he's saying is more that the particles observe in two forms at once almost as though there's a dead cat in the Box but when you observe the cat suddenly it seems to be alive. I know what I'm quoting is Schrodingers cat.

Obviously you can try the Double slit experiment on your own with a piece of cardboard you cut two slits across and then shine a flashlight through in a dark area.

Now as I said I know what he was referring to is the fact that the particles seem to be solid but then when you observe them they seem to be simply vibrating wavelengths. Not that it should be that phenomenally different in the fundamental principle if you have a machine observe the particles and not a person over the particles.

If the machine records the behavior of the particles and observes them and perceives them in the same way a person would with the same wave length a person would view them in it would make no difference.

In a way I kind of never thought of the statement is anything other than looking at a cloud and it looks solid but then you pass through it and realize that it's totally transparent. But as far as quantum physics goes Heisenberg's principle of uncertainty seems to be a really big deal with all the mathematical formulas and equations where the difference in How You observe the particle seems to make it undeterminable on what the particle actually is. A solid? A wavelength? Whereas with the cloud you see the cloud it looks solid but you pass through and you realize it's a gas. With the quantum particle we seem to be forever uncertain on why it appears as a solid in one form and a wavelength in the other


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: imachavel]
    #28415319 - 07/31/23 04:51 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

We/machines can only view any particular wave in a single moment in time, which we perceive as a particle, is how I wrap my brain around it.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: cozmyc]
    #28416620 - 08/01/23 07:03 PM (5 months, 24 days ago)

Yeah LOL see that's what I'm thinking the machine can't differentiate between the two things. It's going to perceive one or the other but not both. Only a human can perceive both. I don't know why I'm not saying it's because psychedelics bend space and time or anything like that. I'm just saying that that's how it is. A machine measures heat in the room or no heat in a room. Only a person can differentiate it being hot and cold at the same time.

While not inaccurate. It is perceptive. A person will see it being colder if the room they just came out of was warmer or warmer if the room they just came out of was colder. Perception is a very accurate way of looking at things. A person will see that subatomic particle as a wave or a particle based on a change in perception that we cannot clearly identify at this point.

We can identify why a room would feel hot or cold based on the previous room we were just in and understand that it's not just as simple as the actual temperature of the room but our perception on how we understand it. But a machine cannot do that. It would have be preprogrammed to identify a change that was input into the machine in it's engineered design by human who programmed it to be so.

That but machine will never be able to tell you why a subatomic particle appears to exist in both states. It will only measure the type of energy being there or not being there.

Perhaps using two different machines one that detects particles and one that detects waves would give you an identity for both things. But I only a person could identify and perceive it as being both at the same time. An unknown phenomenon. But probably no different than being able to identify hot and cold temperatures at the same time. Perhaps Quantum particles are just not something we can identify in two ways at the same time because we cannot understand why we perceive them as both based on our perceptive State the way we can with temperatures.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28417342 - 08/02/23 10:58 AM (5 months, 23 days ago)

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So the uncertainity principle involves the unpredictability of the quantum nature of wave-particles aka photons while the observer effect involves Human consciousness direct effect on photons at a quantum level?




Uncertainty principle is the imprecision in knowing both the position and momentum of a particle.  The more accurately one value is measured, the less accurate the other value.  This is due to the wave particle duality.


Second part is wrong.  Observer effect is the change in a system when observed (could be inanimate detector).  Has nothing to do with a human or consciousness.  A common example is checking the pressure in an automobile tire, which causes some of the air to escape, thereby changing the pressure to observe it. Similarly, seeing non-luminous objects requires light hitting the object to cause it to reflect that light.


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Ice9]
    #28417588 - 08/02/23 03:20 PM (5 months, 23 days ago)

Great explaination!

So the Observer Effect is similar to sampling a physical material. By sampling it, u take a small amount away from the total collection as well as potentially contaminating the material you are sampling with other materials (such as with agar and mycology for example).


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #28417969 - 08/02/23 10:07 PM (5 months, 23 days ago)

We don't actually know what causes the particle to act like a wave though when we observe it. Like checking a tires pressure and putting in a reader to read it and letting some of the pressure out in the process is something that we understand is the reason that observing the tire pressure changes the tire pressure.

We have no idea why subatomic particle behaves like a particle until we observe it and then it behaves like a wave. Does it change because we're observing it? Or does the observation offer a different perspective?


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: imachavel] * 2
    #28418210 - 08/03/23 04:15 AM (5 months, 22 days ago)

Just to correct something, it's not actually observation like we're discussing here that causes the quantum state to collapse.

Measurement, even in the absence of any living observation, will do it too. The quantum state is actually incredibly fragile and basically something in physics will eventually require that the state collapses. Measurement, for example, doesn't actually mean a human has to measure it or anything. It's just that some physics outside the system in the superposition causes it to collapse.

It's actually impressively fragile and easy for the tiniest thing in physics to collapse it, which is why it's so hard to build a quantum computer. Even random electrical noise will cause it to collapse.

But here's the real mindfuck: there are no size limitations on the effect (although in practice because of how fragile the quantum state is, it's impossible to have it happen on a large scale, which again contributes to the difficulty in building a quantum computer). Still, in physics, you could technically have an entire room in a quantum superposition.

Let's say you had a person in that room, and a piece of radioactive material that decays at random. If it decays, it emits radiation which is detected by a sensor in that room, which administers the person 500ug of LSD. But because the decay is random, and because the entire room is in a quantum superposition (where every possibility inside is both happening and not happening simultaneously), the person inside is both tripping balls, and not tripping balls, and neither, and both, all at the same time.

This is real physics, I will remind you. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Quantum Physics - The double slit experiment [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #28418502 - 08/03/23 10:09 AM (5 months, 22 days ago)

I wish this explained the quantum side of quantum computing more.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing

It is also leaving out that quantum computers are somewhat real and not just totally theoretical. But then again Fusion reactors are real and not just totally theoretical but they can't work for more than a millionth of a second to produce more energy than it takes to create the reaction. Not that I'm trying to compare Quantum Computing to that but quantum computers are definitely not "totally stabilized beyond prototype design and totally practical."

Well they are. As calculators. Quantum computers that exist and function as calculators are very real. But as like a machine that you would attached to all your other IO devices for sound and video and connect the read write drive that you could possibly partition and store in OS that allows the user to interface with opening and closing files and higher Network functions Etc. No very not real. You are able to use them as super calculators and theoretically that means that they could be super processors but a quantum computer still needs a person or an actual computer of regular sort to input the decisions for the quantum computer to make the calculations.



You know the analogy of the person inside both tripping balls and not tripping balls and neither in both at the same time sounds very much like what Buddha said of the mind and the body.



He said when a person meditates for years and years and observes physical Sensations down to the subtlest degree without gross and pure emotions clouding the perceptions it appears that the mind and body both seem to exist and not exist and neither and both the same time.





But he said what's really happening is it the true state of mind and matter is not existence. It only exists as wavelength. I mean he actually said this the actual existence of the mind and body is simply wavelengths. Because these two states of existence mind and physical properties of the universe exist and don't exist as wavelengths so quickly in a way you cannot even measure phasing in and out of existence at a speed of like trillions upon trillions of times per second the human mind can only observe the things as existing and not existing and both and neither at the same time.








But it's neither. Subatomic particles exist as waves. We are lucky to have a glimpse into something that exists and doesn't exist so quickly that we are actually able to observe the existible state. I do believe the existable state is not real.











This is a lot of why I don't think black holes exist. I know I know I know now I'm jumping off onto some totally entirely different topic. We come up with the existence of areas in space or light doesn't seem to pass through but it seems to pass through in other areas. We can't simply deem it as there's a cloud of dust out there that's obscure in the light so we come up with this idea based on other mathematical formulas that:

Possibly out in space is something that never happens before. In massive stars when no matter how much the gravity increases the density that does not relatively increase the gravity only the gravity increases the density at some point if a star collapses it creates things like breaking the speed limit of light time dilation and infinite properties of density and gravity. Here on Earth no such things occur. Gravity and density seem to have some limit just like the speed limit of light and time does not dilate. But because of MATH it looks like suddenly all this stuff does exist. Gravity will become stronger with density and not just the other way around. Time is not simply a state of perception of the difference between things that will happen and things that have happened created by the human mind. You can even dilate time. You can break the speed limit of light. And to an almost infinite Factor. Even though we can't measure any of that stuff here on Earth and such.






To me the idea of black hole is the kind of thing that would disprove the very principles of quantum mechanics and make people that would otherwise believe in quantum mechanics think it's a bunch of garbage. But what has quantum mechanics given us? The formula for nuclear fission and nuclear fusion and Quantum States. It is helped us discover the very Factory for creating larger atoms and therefore giving us more than just one atom on the periodic table is in the birthplace of stars. It is helped us figure out that certain Stars can become a neutron soup. It has helped us discover the existence of a field of antimatter that exists alongside matter. It's also helped us discover that the practicality of creating energy from antimatter or a bomb from antimatter is so unlikely because it is so hard to isolate and exists in such rare form that it only exists really in a billionth of a second long enough to be eliminated by its collision with actual matter to the point where if you were to actually scrape up all of the existing antimatter that existed in the world within the next 24 hours and it wasn't able to self annihilate itself you only have about a millions of a grain of sands worth and well that would be very powerful would be enough to power a car for maybe 24 hours or blow up an entire city block you cannot at this state in human history isolate enough to power a Starship or compete with the atom bomb. But that it's so powerful that a marbles worth of it could blow up 10 times more powerful than the largest hydrogen bomb we've ever created.












I think to the casual observer type person this type of stuff all seems like Star Trek. Why would an average person like me be able to argue that some of it is totally applicable in a practical way another aspect of it is indeed just horseshit Star Trek theoretical type stuff? It's simply a realm of things that make up our existence that we cannot measure with our everyday senses. That's all it is. We have to get micro on a scale to explain things that are so macro on a scale that it just doesn't seem like we can in some practical sense. Just as a person cannot count to a million or a billion or a trillion or a quadrillion or a billion times a billion on one hand and needs a pencil and a piece of paper to measure such things. So quantum physics just sort of exists in a way where we are measuring things that happen and ultimately exponentially small form in ultimately exponentially rapid time and we have to apply it on an everyday level because this is the fundamentals of how our world exists.

No need to get all nonsense Star Trek about it though and start coming up with garbage like black holes. At least that's the way I see it :shrug:


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