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sturmer88
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Spore Printing questions.....
#8147437 - 03/14/08 08:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am taking PESA prints and a OAXACA print. The method I have been using is Taking a peice of foil and dabbing it with alcohol then letting it dry between 2 plates. Then I take the caps of my shrooms and put them on the foil.
My question is that I have been having no problem with the PESA strain. I have been getting prints from them every time. I have about 6-7 successful prints made up along with Syringes I made and tested on BRF cakes with no contamination but I am a little confused on the amount of time is best to leave the cap on the foil for. I have noticed that if i leave the cap on the foil for an extra 24 hours or so i get a print so dark that the spores are almost black and clumpy. If I take the cap off the foil sooner sometimes the print is really light but there are still lots of spores left on the cap i could almost take another print. Is it best to get a really dark print or try to get more than 1 print from each cap. Is it ever bad to get to dark a print. Cause I've noticed sometimes if I leave the cap on an extra day it's so dark it gets clumped together on the foil.
Also I have been having trouble taking OAXACA prints. It seems no matter what I do I have been unable to get prints from that strain. I am down to my last cap now and I have it printing along with another 3 PESA caps. Are there any ways to make sure to get a print of a strain that is extra hard to print?
Sorry if my questions seem a little stupid but I'm new at taking prints and I'm just getting the hang of it. I was quite happy when I made my first syringe and tested it out on a pint BRF jar. with no contamination. I now have 2 Pint PESA jars colonizing to add to my next grow.
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8147627 - 03/14/08 09:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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6-8 hours is cool, you'll end up with a good usable print with that.
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sturmer88
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: SHROOMpimp]
#8148303 - 03/15/08 01:50 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeh but I've noticed that many times the prints are si light they are barely visible at that short of time and later on while drying on cardboard they leave prints all over it.
with the Oaxaca I have never gotten a print yet. Right now I have the 3 PESA caps on the foil goig on 2 days now and I can already till they are some dark ass prints.
The Oaxaca cap I have on the foil is from a pretty big fruit so If I get a print it should be pretty big. I'm just hoping that by leaving the caps on the foil for so long they won't be prone to contamination or other problems.
Once I finish printing I usually put them right into a desiccant chamber I made if i don't make a syringe first.
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sturmer88
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8148312 - 03/15/08 01:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just took off the PESA caps and they are the darkest purple prints I have ever seen. They had to be pried from the foil. I'm leaving the OAXACA cap on there until tommorow I want to be sure I get a good print. I have a small bowl like container over the cap and foil to keep contams off.
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8148421 - 03/15/08 03:32 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I took the Oaxaca cap of of the foil just now since I could see the print under it. I finally got my first OAXACA print along with 2 PESA prints on the foil. They are a nice dark shade of purple. I went ahead and put them right into a clean plastic bag. I skipped over the desiccant it looked dry enough anyway. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: sturmer88]
#8148552 - 03/15/08 06:56 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Extra time is allways good, nothing bad in extra hour or two! batter live for a night.
Do you close the area where you put a print? if you making in a plastic bag close it! if just on foil put a cup on it!
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: dstark]
#8148793 - 03/15/08 09:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I clean my surface where i'll be working with alcohol (91percent) and then i put a plate down that i cleaned with alcohol and then foil on that, with the cap. I put a bent tipped thumbtack in the cap for lifting. i then put a cup that i cleaned with alcohol over the cap and foil. I leave for 6-8 or up to 12-14 hours, then remove cap. When i take the cap off i fold the foil in half, right down the middle of the print. then i fold all my edges and put in a zip lock. this has worked for me for a few years so i know it works well. good luck
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: SHROOMpimp]
#8148800 - 03/15/08 09:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I usually just leave it there until the print is dark.. about 4 hours or more.. it really doesnt matter too much... I wouldnt say anything over 8 hours just for sake of overkill
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sturmer88
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Re: Spore Printing questions..... [Re: dstark]
#8150920 - 03/15/08 07:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
dstark said: Extra time is allways good, nothing bad in extra hour or two! batter live for a night.
Do you close the area where you put a print? if you making in a plastic bag close it! if just on foil put a cup on it!
I put a plate over the foil or a cup. If i put a cup then I place a towel over it. When I take the cap off the foil I put it right into a new sandwich bag.
I've never been able to get a print in less than a day. Maybe I just picked the mushroom before it dropped any spores. This time I waited for the spores to drop. They dropped so many spores the top of the PESA cake was black with spores. At first I thought it was some kind of mold.
I even made a spore print a few weeks ago in a hairspray cap I sterilized so that when I make my next syringe I can use it to squirt the water into. I have it in a plastic bag. I figure it's better then bothering with foil.
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