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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: pscyanescens]
    #8138610 - 03/12/08 09:52 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Smoking with a bong or something that cools the smoke is probably a lot healthier too. The heat from the smoke has gotta make it more unhealthy for your lungs.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: NlightNd1]
    #8138684 - 03/12/08 10:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think the smoke is any hotter than the air that you would inhale during a hot shower, or in a sauna.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #8138734 - 03/12/08 10:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

That's probably true. Does a bong hurt your lungs less because the smoke is filtered?


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: pscyanescens]
    #8139213 - 03/12/08 11:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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This is very debateable but,

I think we would all be better off smoking hash oil and stop smoking weed.

Smoking what we want to get high, and disgaurding lots of other plant fibers, and such, means it should be cleaner, and better for our lungs.

A big reason why cigarretes are worse then marijuana is due to the amount that is being smoked everyday. Empty out a pack of cigarrets and weigh the tobacco. Compare to the average weed smokers weight in herb. The cigarretes tobacco (in most cases) would be comparably larger by weight.

It is the amount of smoke you put through your lungs that would increase the cause of lung cancer. The amount of carcinogens are to be recognized as well.

If this is true then a higher quality weed would be much better for you then smoking brown weed or leaf.

Don't get me wrong i like weed for many reasons other then just getting high. There is tastes and aromas that can't compare to that of an extract. However i am speaking in terms of health.

Alot of this is my own theory, so i am open to debate on this matter.




A radioactive isotope called plutonium 210 naturally occurs in tobacco. This is what causes cancer, not the "carcinogen, tar, or amount of smoke". Marijuana does not contain this chemical and every other "carcinogen" in marijuana is benign unless take in massive quantities. Not not like smoking a pound in a year. You have to smoke insanely large amounts and if a pound is benign i hope that puts things in perspective.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: NlightNd1]
    #8139296 - 03/12/08 11:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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That's probably true. Does a bong hurt your lungs less because the smoke is filtered?




Water cools the smoke.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: wireless]
    #8146911 - 03/14/08 07:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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pscyanescens said:
This is very debateable but,

I think we would all be better off smoking hash oil and stop smoking weed.

Smoking what we want to get high, and disgaurding lots of other plant fibers, and such, means it should be cleaner, and better for our lungs.

A big reason why cigarretes are worse then marijuana is due to the amount that is being smoked everyday. Empty out a pack of cigarrets and weigh the tobacco. Compare to the average weed smokers weight in herb. The cigarretes tobacco (in most cases) would be comparably larger by weight.

It is the amount of smoke you put through your lungs that would increase the cause of lung cancer. The amount of carcinogens are to be recognized as well.

If this is true then a higher quality weed would be much better for you then smoking brown weed or leaf.



Don't get me wrong i like weed for many reasons other then just getting high. There is tastes and aromas that can't compare to that of an extract. However i am speaking in terms of health.



Alot of this is my own theory, so i am open to debate on this matter.




A radioactive isotope called plutonium 210 naturally occurs in tobacco. This is what causes cancer, not the "carcinogen, tar, or amount of smoke". Marijuana does not contain this chemical and every other "carcinogen" in marijuana is benign unless take in massive quantities. Not not like smoking a pound in a year. You have to smoke insanely large amounts and if a pound is benign i hope that puts things in perspective.




I don't believe it's found naturally in tobacco, I believe it's found in the ferts we in the U.S. use. I've read a study before that reported lower rates of cancer in countries that do not use the fertilizer. Also it's polonium 210 not plutonium lol.

Also the ratio of particulate matter to thc is lower from a bong then from a joint. So really it's not all that healthier when you have to smoke more to achieve the same effects. Also bongs are a more active way of smoking then passive inhalation via a joint.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: wireless]
    #8146956 - 03/14/08 08:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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A radioactive isotope called plutonium 210 naturally occurs in tobacco. This is what causes cancer, not the "carcinogen, tar, or amount of smoke". Marijuana does not contain this chemical and every other "carcinogen" in marijuana is benign unless take in massive quantities. Not not like smoking a pound in a year. You have to smoke insanely large amounts and if a pound is benign i hope that puts things in perspective.



actually its polonium, and its not naturally in the plants, its in the fertilizer that they dust the tobacco crops with, then the tobacco plant takes it up and concentraes it in the trichomes, as it is bound to the phosphate
polonium 210 sticks in your lungs for at least ten years even after you quit smoking tobacco, and its radioactive, so your lungs are constantly being exposed to radiation, and that has a chance of mutating cells and acusing them to turn cancerous

heres my source
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8147012 - 03/14/08 08:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

being a cigarette smoker, there is a huge difference in a prefab. cig and the one that i roll. i can smoke way less hand rolled smokes in a day for 1, and even the next day i don't feel as shitty if i smoked hand rolled smokes. its all the other stuff in cigs (like rat poison) that make it super bad for you.


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: smokeybear]
    #8147019 - 03/14/08 08:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

the best tobacco is tobacco that you grow yourself


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Re: We would all live longer smoking just hash oil....... no more weed [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8147089 - 03/14/08 08:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The best tobacco is actually Marijuana


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