Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags
    #8136010 - 03/12/08 09:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Which one would you say works better?


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136029 - 03/12/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Rye grain has more nurtients. :thumbup:

Search and read. It goes along way in this hobby.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136061 - 03/12/08 09:46 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

can you dunk rye grain or just in genreal can you dunk the crumble for a casing?


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136071 - 03/12/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

If you simmer the grains for 30+ minutes, then rinse and let them strain in a collander for 30+ minutes, you'll have all the water you need locked up inside the grains for your mushies to use.

No need for a dunk. In fact, I think a dunk with grains would lead to contams pretty quickly.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJSshroom
dont be paranoid, just aware


Registered: 06/16/05
Posts: 825
Loc: I love that spore drop
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136077 - 03/12/08 09:50 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

rye grain does not need to be crumbled. I dont use jars anymore just bags. I take them out of the closet and throw them on the floor a few times and they are broken up and ready to use. Then. If I wanted to make a case I could pour it into a container and let it repair itself.

No danger of a broken jar.
No Cleanup or scrubbing.
IMO when you learn how to do it. Its easier then jars to inoculate.
I can PC 40 lbs or seed or 8 overly full spawn bags in my aa941 in one go. Thats a lot of spawn.


--------------------
First Grow No more carpet tek

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: JSshroom]
    #8136084 - 03/12/08 09:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Holy shit. That's alot of grain.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136136 - 03/12/08 10:13 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how well do Mexi-Cubes and B+ do on rye grain?


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136151 - 03/12/08 10:17 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I know that this is the time to remind you of the search feature at the top left of the page.

B+ will do well. I don't know about mexi-cubes,is that the sclerotia producing strain?


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136207 - 03/12/08 10:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I have no clue. I don't know if I'm aloud to post this link, sorry if I'm not supposed to http://thehawkseye.com/mexi/mexi.html


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136244 - 03/12/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

You're good on vendor links.

But when are you gonna start searching and reading before you ask me questions that have already been answered elsewhere in these forums?

And yes, according to that description it's just a normal cube, like any other cube, and WILL grow on grains.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejeetered
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/07/06
Posts: 3,055
Loc: no clue
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136253 - 03/12/08 10:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DyingTree said:
how well do Mexi-Cubes and B+ do on rye grain?




psilocybe cubensis does great on grains..

"strain" doesn't matter, it's commercial hype..

it's all the same species..

DOH!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: jeetered]
    #8136283 - 03/12/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

No shit, this guy needs to search and read.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136326 - 03/12/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

yeah thanks I am searching an ass load but I'm getting to much mixed information.


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Edited by DyingTree (03/12/08 11:03 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136343 - 03/12/08 11:07 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Understandable, to much misinformation.

I know I was scared to ask questions for fear of being flamed for awhile, just look at my post graph.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136421 - 03/12/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I know, I just don't give a shit when people respond "use the search". sometimes I'll say "sorry I know this question probably has been asked a million times but....", I mean I want my questioned answered I don't wanna read someone else's the go to another post and see that something else was said differently about it. It gets confusing.


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Edited by DyingTree (03/12/08 11:31 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136523 - 03/12/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Sure, I understand.

Don't use the search function then, see how long people give a shit about your questions.

No offence, I understand the need you have, but many here don't.


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineresptodd
I reject yourreality andsubstitute myown
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 674
Loc: Michigan
Last seen: 5 months, 18 days
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
    #8136540 - 03/12/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Just an attempt to get people to think for themselves. Alot of the "Old Timers" are getting tired of spoon feeding people. This site is filled with noobs right now(which I think is very cool), but it's testing the limits of the ones who started this site. The site used to be filled with people experimenting then posting their results, now it's filled with people begging others to hold their hand and walk them through the processes.----------- I go back and forth between PF tek and grain. I use amaranth flour(far superior) instead of BRF, and rye or wheat berries. Whichever I go with, the next step is I'm using it to spawn composted Hpoo, end result shit loads of shit eaters.

Edited by resptodd (03/12/08 11:56 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedill705
Amazed
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 3,779
Loc: The Cat's Cradle
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: resptodd]
    #8136558 - 03/12/08 11:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Me too, it must be a MI thing.

Kinda like that Big Boy commercial...


--------------------
My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.

-Icelander-

I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!

~dill705~

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineresptodd
I reject yourreality andsubstitute myown
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 674
Loc: Michigan
Last seen: 5 months, 18 days
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
    #8136617 - 03/12/08 12:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I start everything from LCs now. LCs dramatically shorten the time from start to fruit. But if I were to pick one tek over another I would go with PF (with amaranth flour instead of BRF) due to it's versatility and ability to better germinate spores. Anything that can be done with grain, I can figure out a way to use a PF cake. But you can't make a fruiting cake from grain (at least I haven't tried yet)


--------------------
Damn! I'm having fun! Just keep the GD monkeys away.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDyingTree
Somber Fallacy
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/06
Posts: 121
Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: resptodd]
    #8137974 - 03/12/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Well know that I know what this site was built around I will search my hardest for an answer before I ask a question


--------------------
"Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* PF Style Jar (pic) skab 1,574 4 09/21/01 06:48 PM
by punkgeek
* I need help colonizing my jars of rye grain EPerson100 4,448 4 09/24/01 06:12 AM
by MAIA
* The ease of rye grain. Anonymous 14,727 19 06/03/16 03:10 PM
by Disco Shiny
* Is Rye Grain realy this slow or im I? sporechase13 2,025 8 03/28/05 03:59 PM
by MeatSpace
* what is sterilized rye grain supposed to look like Amoeba665 3,065 17 09/09/01 06:03 PM
by patzee
* need help colonizing my rye grain EPerson100 1,166 2 09/25/01 10:10 PM
by Chemical_Smile
* Flipping/Turning PF-style Jars??? scoobyshroom 1,761 6 07/08/02 07:18 AM
by I_was_the_walrus
* Shaking PF style Jars?? scoobyshroom 600 2 06/20/02 02:47 PM
by scoobyshroom

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,840 topic views. 11 members, 87 guests and 10 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2025 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 14 queries.