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DyingTree
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PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags
#8136010 - 03/12/08 09:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Which one would you say works better?
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136029 - 03/12/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rye grain has more nurtients. 
Search and read. It goes along way in this hobby.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136061 - 03/12/08 09:46 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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can you dunk rye grain or just in genreal can you dunk the crumble for a casing?
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136071 - 03/12/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you simmer the grains for 30+ minutes, then rinse and let them strain in a collander for 30+ minutes, you'll have all the water you need locked up inside the grains for your mushies to use.
No need for a dunk. In fact, I think a dunk with grains would lead to contams pretty quickly.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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JSshroom
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136077 - 03/12/08 09:50 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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rye grain does not need to be crumbled. I dont use jars anymore just bags. I take them out of the closet and throw them on the floor a few times and they are broken up and ready to use. Then. If I wanted to make a case I could pour it into a container and let it repair itself.
No danger of a broken jar. No Cleanup or scrubbing. IMO when you learn how to do it. Its easier then jars to inoculate. I can PC 40 lbs or seed or 8 overly full spawn bags in my aa941 in one go. Thats a lot of spawn.
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: JSshroom]
#8136084 - 03/12/08 09:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holy shit. That's alot of grain.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136136 - 03/12/08 10:13 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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how well do Mexi-Cubes and B+ do on rye grain?
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136151 - 03/12/08 10:17 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know that this is the time to remind you of the search feature at the top left of the page.
B+ will do well. I don't know about mexi-cubes,is that the sclerotia producing strain?
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136207 - 03/12/08 10:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have no clue. I don't know if I'm aloud to post this link, sorry if I'm not supposed to http://thehawkseye.com/mexi/mexi.html
-------------------- "Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136244 - 03/12/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're good on vendor links.
But when are you gonna start searching and reading before you ask me questions that have already been answered elsewhere in these forums?
And yes, according to that description it's just a normal cube, like any other cube, and WILL grow on grains.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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jeetered
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136253 - 03/12/08 10:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
DyingTree said: how well do Mexi-Cubes and B+ do on rye grain?
psilocybe cubensis does great on grains..
"strain" doesn't matter, it's commercial hype..
it's all the same species..
DOH!
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: jeetered]
#8136283 - 03/12/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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No shit, this guy needs to search and read.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136326 - 03/12/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah thanks I am searching an ass load but I'm getting to much mixed information.
-------------------- "Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."
Edited by DyingTree (03/12/08 11:03 AM)
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136343 - 03/12/08 11:07 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Understandable, to much misinformation.
I know I was scared to ask questions for fear of being flamed for awhile, just look at my post graph.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136421 - 03/12/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I know, I just don't give a shit when people respond "use the search". sometimes I'll say "sorry I know this question probably has been asked a million times but....", I mean I want my questioned answered I don't wanna read someone else's the go to another post and see that something else was said differently about it. It gets confusing.
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Edited by DyingTree (03/12/08 11:31 AM)
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136523 - 03/12/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure, I understand.
Don't use the search function then, see how long people give a shit about your questions.
No offence, I understand the need you have, but many here don't.
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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resptodd
I reject yourreality andsubstitute myown



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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: DyingTree]
#8136540 - 03/12/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just an attempt to get people to think for themselves. Alot of the "Old Timers" are getting tired of spoon feeding people. This site is filled with noobs right now(which I think is very cool), but it's testing the limits of the ones who started this site. The site used to be filled with people experimenting then posting their results, now it's filled with people begging others to hold their hand and walk them through the processes.----------- I go back and forth between PF tek and grain. I use amaranth flour(far superior) instead of BRF, and rye or wheat berries. Whichever I go with, the next step is I'm using it to spawn composted Hpoo, end result shit loads of shit eaters.
Edited by resptodd (03/12/08 11:56 AM)
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dill705
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: resptodd]
#8136558 - 03/12/08 11:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Me too, it must be a MI thing.
Kinda like that Big Boy commercial...
-------------------- My advice is to find those things that give pleasure and do them often without too much attachment and relax and wait for the show to end.
-Icelander-
I like free markets and all. Truly I do, at least in general, but there needs to be some kind of oversight in recognition of sustainability. Life works the same way, on a bunch of sustainable systems. Why not honor what made us what we are and take some lessons? Nature FTW!
~dill705~
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resptodd
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: dill705]
#8136617 - 03/12/08 12:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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I start everything from LCs now. LCs dramatically shorten the time from start to fruit. But if I were to pick one tek over another I would go with PF (with amaranth flour instead of BRF) due to it's versatility and ability to better germinate spores. Anything that can be done with grain, I can figure out a way to use a PF cake. But you can't make a fruiting cake from grain (at least I haven't tried yet)
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DyingTree
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Re: PF Style Jars vs Rye grain grow bags [Re: resptodd]
#8137974 - 03/12/08 05:24 PM (16 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well know that I know what this site was built around I will search my hardest for an answer before I ask a question
-------------------- "Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window, psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally lay down models of behavior and information processes. They open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong, and government and society spend a lot of money educating you into being a loyal worker, consumer, debt payer and citizen."
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