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Amazon Shop for: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Pressure Cooker, Rye Grain

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Invisibleblitz
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A few things before my friend starts...
    #813376 - 08/12/02 06:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, my friend ia finally about to start to grow. The thing is, he got ripped off on ebay for a perssure cooker... and doesnt have money to buy a new one right now. So he was planning on using the PF style cakes. Also, he has been having trouble finding BRF, so he is planning on getting either whole wheart flour or rye flour.

So he waws going to do the normal pf style jars, using ball Pint jars with the PF style substrate (possibly replacing the BRF), and also, just today, he found some tyvek on a house (which he 'took a sample of') that he is planni gon using to cover the wholes in the lid.

My question is, do you think he'll be successful doing it this way and only sterilizing in a pot (no PC)? and if so, how long should he steam it? (1-1 and a half hours?)

thanks.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #813401 - 08/12/02 06:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

BRF is the easiest to find just go into any grocery store and buy uncle bens Brown Rice and then put it in your blender. I steamed mine for 45 minutes but was planning on doing it for an hour but i had to leave, but no contams.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #813403 - 08/12/02 06:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

1h seems good for steaming. Also, don't use whole wheat flower, i've only had troble with that stuff!!


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #813415 - 08/12/02 07:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I thought it was kind of amusing that brown rice flower was the only flour the health food store by my house was sold out of. I was there for dark rye anyway, so it didn?t matter to me.
Anyway, just buy DRF or something?it will work fine.
I?ve heard people complain about doing PF with pints, but I haven?t had any experience with it myself.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #813441 - 08/12/02 07:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah i dont have a pressure cooker either. I steam for like 45min - 1hr. THe first time i tried steaming, i only did 20min. Didnt go as well as i would have liked :P

But yes, steaming is good, make sure the jars arent sitting on the direct bottom of the pan, or else they may crack. So put something on the bottom, like a lil tray or something that will hold them up.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: tps]
    #813500 - 08/12/02 07:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard people say to put a towel onder the jars.... will that work fine?


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #813513 - 08/12/02 07:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i steam my jars for 3 hours, a bit excessive but has proven to be effective. i also put a towel or sock on the bottom, even paper towels have worked to prevent the bottom of my substrates from getting dried out from the immense heat.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #813521 - 08/12/02 07:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It works , but its best to get the small tray that fits inside a PC. You can pick one up at wally world. But yes, a towel will work. bluhoney


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #814794 - 08/13/02 11:53 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Just went to a few grocery stores and finally found some Brown Rice Flour.. but it was their last package... so all I have is 2 lbs of it.... think that will be enough for 12 pint jars?... also they had rye flour, would that be fine if I needed more flour?


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #814819 - 08/13/02 12:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

no , 2 lb won't cut it .... maybe 8...


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: BoB]
    #814955 - 08/13/02 01:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Umm, you sure???
Anno's PF Tek for Simple Minds says 40 ml of BRF per 1/2 pint jar.. so I guess I need 80 ml per a jar.. 80 ml is about 1/3 a cup... and this 2 lbs looks to be about 4 cups or so.


Also, with the Tyvek, how do I inocculate the jars? (I'm using Ball Wide Mouth pint sized)


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #815239 - 08/13/02 03:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He was joking but seriously you need like 10 lbs.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #815578 - 08/13/02 06:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

10 pounds??? Ummm....

1 cup = 120 grams (so 1/3 cup = 40 g)
If you have 2 lbs, you have about 906 g.
906/40 = 22.65 jars if you use 1/3 cup per jar (unless I screwed up somewhere )


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #815642 - 08/13/02 06:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Mechanical: well you dont know if one cup is really exactly 120 grams.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #815715 - 08/13/02 07:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Before I got a PC I always sterilizied mine by steaming them on the stove top. I would leave the jars in there for about an hour and a half. I never had any problems with contams. I have had problems with forgetting about what's going on in the kitchen and letting the water evaporate completely out of the pot. I had an old tshirt that I was using to seperate the jars from the bottom of the pot. Burned a hole straight through it.

I also did the same thing with 10 brand new syringes. I was taking a nap and forgot that I was sterilizing the syringes in a pot of boiling water. When I awoke to a cloudy smokey house, I found that I now had a pot with 10 shiny needles in it. Everything else was melted. Remember to keep an eye on your water level when steam sterlizing your jars.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #816029 - 08/13/02 09:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I don?t know it will be ?exactly? 120g? Yeah, no shit. But Blitz, do you realize how much breathing room my estimation leaves? You should have enough (I believe) for 22 jars, and you only need enough for 12, correct? Do you really think you are going to use almost twice as much as I?m predicting?
Well, I would be willing to bet that the numbers I gave you are more accurate then that. And I told you that unless I screwed up, they should be close enough. So obviously I already knew that they might not be "really exactly" perfect without you pointing it out.
If you don't believe me, then why don't you just go fucking buy 8 more pounds, or 20 more pounds, or whatever? Go buy 100 pounds of flour, and then get back to me and tell me how much of it you used, okay? Seriously, I don?t need to hear that you don?t trust my estimation when I was only trying to help you out; just go buy some damn flour.


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: MechanicalMan]
    #816826 - 08/14/02 07:35 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Mechanical: heh, I was just joking around with you. I know your estimation was pretty much right (I did estimate about the same thing... ) And I'm guessing you had a good idea of how much acup of BRF weighs.. .I really dont. As far as I knew it could weigh 200 g.. or something.. hopefully not.. sicne I'd rather have enough to do 22 jars with


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Re: A few things before my friend starts... [Re: blitz]
    #817099 - 08/14/02 09:51 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, I guess I was having a bad day or something.


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