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Talk me into shooting DMT
    #8131839 - 03/11/08 01:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

So I have in front of me a solution of DMT hcl in sterile saline, and some fresh needles.

Now all I need is the courage to take the plunge. Thats where you guys come in. I know that I need to do this on my own, I just need a little shove from some of you knowledgeable folks.

Seeing as how I have never IV'ed anything myself before, thats only adding to my apprehension about this whole situation. Now I have read every guide I could find on safe IV drug use, so no need to help me out in the department.

I guess I just need a little kick in the ass to get me to actually go through with this.


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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: Robo]
    #8131995 - 03/11/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah, I've read his trip report, as well as "The Spirit Molecule" cover to cover.

I'm shooting for the famed 0.4 mg per kilogram, which with my solution turns out to be about 40 units, and about 25mg of spice. Now when I say 25mg I mean of the freebase, before it was converted to the HCL.

Thanks for advice on caution, I plan to shoot a half dose, or around 15-20 units first. To test the waters, then if I feel up to it, do the rest a few hours later.


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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #8132062 - 03/11/08 02:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I know your kidding, but man chinacat is hard-motherfucking-core, I know I couldn't handle 75mg IV yet, I mean shit, even HE said it was too intense.

Maybe one day... but probably not

I'm going to start with ~12mg and then go to 25mg if all goes well with the trial.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
    #8132485 - 03/11/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for the warning. I too was very wary of this, and all other contaminants.

So I meticulously re-crystallized 3 times. I dissolved in minimal about of hot solvent(bestine) then allowed it to cool until the undissolved sludge at the bottom solidified enough to pour off the DMT rich solvent on top. I then freeze precipitated and filtered. At the end my product was beautiful, shimmering, white, and crystalline.

I was very surprised how much of the original product was left behind in this purification process. I started with a little over a gram, and got it down to 310mg of snow-white, shimmering spice. Now I'm sure a good portion of this waxy yellow stuff left behind is DMT, but I'm glad I'm not going to be shooting any of it.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: NationofStrangers]
    #8132641 - 03/11/08 04:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I do plan on doing it by myself. I have one friend who I would trust to do it for me, but he is a recovering heroin addict. He's been clean for over 6 months now, and I really don't think asking him to help me inject something is a good idea. I know another one of my friends is familiar with needles, but I don't exactly trust him enough to do this for me, plus he told me before that he is scared of DMT.

So I think its all going to come down to me doing this myself.

Maybe I should do a trial run with just sterile saline first. Just to get the hang of hitting a vein, and the whole bit.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: Robo]
    #8132675 - 03/11/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Omni said:
This way I can feel like a junkie :wink:

Psychedelic junkie :mushroom2:




HAHA when I went to get the syringes, the first pharmacist looked at me like I was some low life, and told me he couldn't sell them to me. The next place didn't ask any questions, except if I wanted store brand generic :grin:


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: johnm214]
    #8132879 - 03/11/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
this is so fucked up


So we want heroin users to share needles?

Its not like you need a needle to use heroin, so they're not preventing shit, they're just making it more likely someone will share

great policy :thumbup:




I couldn't agree more. Recently I have been reading lots of harm reduction websites to familiarize myself with safe needle use. And they all say the same things that you just said. It really made me want to tell off that pharmacist who wouldn't sell me those needles. You know he goes to sleep at night thinking he's doing the world a favor, saving those 'poor misguided drug users'. Its really a sad day in the world when an obviously educated man like him can go and inadvertently fuck up someone else's life, while thinking they are doing them a favor.

I mean what if I was a junkie, had an old dirty needle in my car, and was so desperate for a fix, that I went right out and shot it with that dirty needle, all because that man thought too highly of himself.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: NationofStrangers]
    #8132972 - 03/11/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

No, not yet, I should be doing it sometime tonight.


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Re: Talk me into shooting DMT [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8133003 - 03/11/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

It was extracted, but was thoroughly purified, I mentioned a short outline of the process done earlier in the thread.

What I never understood, is there is essentially no difference between lab synthed DMT and extracted. Either can be just as contaminated, its all about the degree to which you purify them.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8133169 - 03/11/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Zinglons Acolyte said:
Quote:

d4a2n0k said:
I was very surprised how much of the original product was left behind in this purification process. I started with a little over a gram, and got it down to 310mg of snow-white, shimmering spice. Now I'm sure a good portion of this waxy yellow stuff left behind is DMT, but I'm glad I'm not going to be shooting any of it.



plug dat shit!! :macdre:




LMAO! you know of all the times I have seem people say to plug DMT I think this might be the only time it is actually legitimate advice. I just might end up trying to plug the slag leftover from re-crystallization.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: Robo]
    #8133275 - 03/11/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I think I am going to do it while some one is present, just to make sure I am ok. I don't know anyone who could shoot it for me, but just having a good friend there to make sure I get the needle out, and put out of harms way should reduce my anxiety a lot.

Thanks for all the input everyone, your all playing your part in getting me comfortable enough to go through with this.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: demiu5]
    #8133918 - 03/11/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You have made some mighty fine points on the side of caution in this thread, but seriously, does any one really know what is in street heroin?

I would say the manufactures and dealers could care less what they put into the product, just as long as it wont immediately kill people.


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
    #8137988 - 03/12/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, just thought thought I would check in because some people were saying I'm probably dead.

I'm not, but I haven't done it yet. Not because I don't want to, or that I'm not going to. I'm fully comfortable with injecting the product that I have, and I'm in good health, so I know I'll be fine.

I just want to take more time to prepare myself. I plan on doing it Saturday morning. In the coming days, I'm going to adhere to a strict exercise, diet, and vitamin routine to fully prepare my body. Add to the plenty of rest and meditation to mentally prepare myself for what I'm about to do.

I want every one to know, I'm not doing this for any reckless reasons, or just to get high. I fully respect DMT and want to get the most out of every experience, that is what led me to the needle to begin with.

I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, your input is truly cherished.

:peace:


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: 04281969]
    #8149590 - 03/15/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Well, I did it. Only 0.2mg per kg, or a half a dose. It was still amazing, in a subtle way.

I had a friend there to make sure everything went OK, but I didn't even need him. It took longer than I expected to kick in, I expected immediate blast off. However, I had time to take out and re-cap the needle myself, and then about 3-4 more seconds before it really hit me.

It seemed very similar to smoking, except no burning throat. I would almost be willing to say smoking is more intense. I'll give a better comparison and trip report later when I do the full 0.4mg per kg.

Now just to clarify, 0.4mg per kg was the dose used by Rick Strassman in the DMT studies that were written about in "The Spirit Molecule" Since I'm using a different salt of DMT it must be mathematically calculated to get an equivalent dose.

:psychsplit:


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Re: Talk me out of shooting DMT [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8149709 - 03/15/08 02:20 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, even though it was a small does, I was still scared to the point that I was shaking some what when I had the needle in.

Physiologically it didn't have any noticeable bad effects, it just felt like a really clean, low dose DMT trip.

I am very glad I started off small, because now all initial fear is gone. I am fully ready to take the full dose.

But that will come later, I'm not sure why, but I feel I need to wait a few hours between doses.

So after I go catch some fresh air, its time for round two!


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