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First Harvest Results...
    #8131315 - 03/11/08 11:02 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Not as good as I hoped, but better than I expected.

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Overall, I only had 3 out of 6 cakes actually fruit anything, but they did well... I dont why the other cakes didnt do anything, I dunked at cold temp. and Fanned for FAE 3 times a day... the only thing I didnt use was artificial light, which I will be using next grow.

I still have shrooms growing on the second flush, the others are drying out... none of which exceeded the height of 5 inches.. *shrug*

One interesting finding is that instead of drying out the aborts, me and my partner decided to experiment with them fresh, as they contain 2 different psychoactive properties while fresh.

We had 6 or 7 aborts, I put gloves on and carefully picked them and bagged them in a clean bag... shortly after I ingested 2 of the aborts, which in size were only about height - 1 cm, cap width less than 1 cm.

20 minutes later I realized that the potency levels of the fresh aborts were considerably higher than that of full grown dried mushrooms Ive consumed before, 2 tiny little aborts had more of an affect, and somewhat different of an affect than an eighth of an ounce of dried shrooms.

I went to consume 2 more fresh shrooms and noticed that they both had turned completely blue (this wasnt from altered perception) my guess was it was the high potency levels of psilocybin that turned it blue.

Any input?

All in all, even though I faced problems, I would go ahead and call it a successful grow, and work towards a better grow next time learning from the mistakes I feel I made.

Thanks all for your tips and advice.

Cheers.


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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: mozartvicious]
    #8131401 - 03/11/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Psilocin is a very unstable active chemical in fresh shrooms that degrades as they dry.  Psilocybin is left and is a much more stable chemical except it converts to psilocin in your body.  You are correct in that fresh shrooms can be more potent however, the active chemicals are ultimately the same.  Congrats!  :thumbup:

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: mozartvicious]
    #8131403 - 03/11/08 11:27 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well.. I would totally consider doing a simple cake casing..

do a search and you can find a casing method that works for you, and just use alot of crumbled brf cakes and then whatever casing method you choose to apply...

you can incubate in the same chamber you we growing cakes in.. exactly the same way...

remember though.. you need lots of RH, and LOTS of fae if you wanna get great results, not just alright results...

glad to see we have another proud parent of some fungi...

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8131413 - 03/11/08 11:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

yes.. and on top of that, the big thing that kills potency is heat.. THAT is how that chem beaks down.. that and alot of light, from what I understand.. just make sure when you dry them, you use no heat at all, and keep them in a cool dry place.. treat them like crakers... lol

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8131421 - 03/11/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ooo yeah.. Im sure that aborts seem to be more potent gram for gram then fully mature.. we have experimented.. haha... they are...

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8131439 - 03/11/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

They were def. more potent... I'm curious if the fresh full grown shrooms will have the same or more or less potency...I need to do more reading and experimenting...
but yeah, the 4 aborts I ended up taking was probably the most intense but most relaxed trip ever.


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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: mozartvicious]
    #8131476 - 03/11/08 11:45 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

aborts suck though cause you get no weight... if you isolate a strain, then you will get more potent mushies.. then you start growing on a bulk sub like coir or poo or something, and then you get mad weight, and potent shrooms...

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8131532 - 03/11/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Any pics from the harvest?

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: mozartvicious]
    #8131544 - 03/11/08 11:59 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Since I can only speak from experience I also have to say, that small and young mushrooms or aborts are more potent than fully matured specimens. I always had the impression that it was this way.

However, it is yet not really proven, so we should stick to the "from my experience" kind of thing.

I'm one of the people who say that the production of active alkaloids is stooped when the mushrooms opens it's veil and the cap flattens out.

It is unknown what Psilocybin and psilocin are actually good for. So the evolutionary value is unknown.

Therefore, creating theories about why young and small mushrooms seem to be more potent i.e. why maturing mushrooms stop producing active alkaloids is very hard.
When you don't know the reason, it's impossible to say why it is the way it is.

You can easily prove this (though nobody does), but that wouldn't explain -if it's really that way- WHY it actually happens!

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Re: First Harvest Results... [Re: liszewski_88]
    #8131728 - 03/11/08 12:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm getting a digi-cam after I get my first paycheck from the new jobskie. And will start posting pics of my progress etc.


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