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Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring
    #8127287 - 03/10/08 12:25 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Former U.S. Attorney and current Democratic governor of New York has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin


No wonder Spitzer broke up and prosecuted all those prostitution rings....


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8127401 - 03/10/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

After reading that, what crazy news!

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Mr. Spitzer, a first-term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform and end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.




What a fucking moron.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8127408 - 03/10/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)



:lol:


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8127493 - 03/10/08 01:31 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Faux News is reporting he'll be resigning later today.

Make of that what you will...


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8127636 - 03/10/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

If Spitzer had not prosecuted others for prostitution or maybe attempted to legalize prostitution (yeah right), then I would not have a problem with this story. If he wants to fuck some high-class $6k hooker, that's his own business and good for him for being a perv. But too bad he's a hypocrite. If hookers are good enough for the Governor, they are good enough for the rest of us.

Good riddance.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8127646 - 03/10/08 02:17 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

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Faux News is reporting he'll be resigning later today.

Make of that what you will...




eventually he will have to. i bet he's trying to make a deal first with the Feds.

the only good news for you and the Dem's is that his replacement David Paterson is even more liberal.....


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8127650 - 03/10/08 02:18 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Faux News is reporting he'll be resigning later today.

Make of that what you will...




he's not quitting. he's fired. :hehehe:


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8127663 - 03/10/08 02:21 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

+1 less super delegate vote for Clinton.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8127680 - 03/10/08 02:25 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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+1 less super delegate vote for Clinton.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8127892 - 03/10/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

He's been in office for slightly more than 1 year and has beclowned himself in less time and in more ways than any politician I have seen in my life. And I've been watching. Between the Joe Bruno scandal, the driver's licenses for illegals and now this, he is just one of the most ridiculous political turds of all time. Steamroller my ass.

As far as Paterson being more liberal, I don't know what anyone could mean by that, Spitzer was a total liberal asshole himself. He also will have zero testicles. Next in line after Paterson? Joe Bruno. What sweet irony that would be.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8127953 - 03/10/08 03:28 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

maybe Spitzer was working undercover to break up this particular prostitution ring.:grin:

this election year has been way to much fun!!!!


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8127973 - 03/10/08 03:35 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

At least Spitzer admits his involvement, rather than pulling a "wide stance" ala Senator Craig.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8128011 - 03/10/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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At least Spitzer admits his involvement, rather than pulling a "wide stance" ala Senator Craig.




I consider an FBI investigation into a prostitution ring more significant than someone tapping another guys foot...


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8128038 - 03/10/08 03:51 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

"tapping another guys foot." is that Republican slang for cruising a bathroom and feeding on anonymous cum?

I think both situations are equally appalling due to hypocrisy considering Spitzer's anti-escort work and Craig's anti-gay work. But both "crimes" are not a big deal in my eyes. I fully support honest sexual freakiness. More sloppy blowjobs and anal sex, the better we are as a nation. But at least Spitzer is owning up his activity and probably resigning, unlike Craig who continues to be cock-sucking, ball-licking, ass-rimming, self-hating closet-case who wants to legislate Jesus to prove he's no fag.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8128060 - 03/10/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

LOOK stop being a party pooper and talking about gay sperm..... i just want to enjoy watching Spitzer resign tonight.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8128071 - 03/10/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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LOOK stop being a party pooper and talking about gay sperm..... i just want to enjoy watching Spitzer resign tonight.




Are you getting aroused?

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #8128647 - 03/10/08 06:42 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I am. And so is Dick Grasso and a lot of other people this asshole went after for no other reason than his overweening ambition.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8129393 - 03/10/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I just don't understand why public figures think they can get away with this shit.

I'm your average joe and I wouldn't have taken the bait for fear of getting
caught.

Way too much to lose...and I'm not even the governor of NY...


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8131607 - 03/11/08 12:14 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

New York Republicans Demand Eliot Spitzer's Resignation With Threat of Impeachment

NEW YORK — New York Republicans will seek to impeach Democratic Gov. Eliot Spitzer if he does not resign within 48 hours, New York Assembly Republican leader James Tedisco told FOX News exclusively.

"We believe it is an illegal activity he has been involved with," Tedisco said speaking on FOX's "Hannity & Colmes."

"We're going to give him 24 to 48 hours to do the right thing, and the right thing is to resign because he has been compromised. If that's not the case ... we're going to ask the speaker to start impeachment proceedings," Tedisco said Monday night.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8131801 - 03/11/08 01:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

He's got to resign today.

No way he stays on.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8131890 - 03/11/08 01:30 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

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He's got to resign today.

No way he stays on.




You're right


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8132050 - 03/11/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

hmmm... I don't think this is any reason to impeach the guy, who cares. Prostituion should be legal anyways, and I doubt its more than a misdemeanor in NY.

I looked at the constitution, but couldn't find any refrence to impeachment procedings requiring any particular act.

Does anyone know what the criteria is? Perhaps they can impeach for any reason?


And did this investigation reveal he had prostitutes during his tenure as Governor? I'm finding trouble getting dates here.


Additionally, is prostitution a federal crime? Why was the FBI investigating anyways?

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: johnm214]
    #8132061 - 03/11/08 02:15 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

You should do some research, all of those questions are easily answered.

This was ongoing, the arrests in the case were just made last week.

It won't come to impeachment, he will resign. If not today, tomorrow.

And it's a federal crime for a few reasons...

1) He was using interstate phone lines to arrange prostitutes.
2) They were sending prostitutes across state lines.
3) They were transferring funds to pay for prostitutes across state lines.

Either of those three makes it a federal case. All of them together is a slam dunk.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8132075 - 03/11/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

so this did happen while he was governor?

And are their any requirements for an impeachment/trial in NY? I couldn't find any, nor any discusion of them.

Who thinks he should be removed?

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: johnm214]
    #8132079 - 03/11/08 02:21 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Honestly, the Democrats do not need this shit right now.:smirk:


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8132083 - 03/11/08 02:23 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

This will have almost no impact on the Democrats national chances.

We would never have lost New York anyway and there is way too much other stuff going on for this to even appear on the the radar of the average person.

It's pretty much a non-story for anyone who isn't slavishly devoted to the nuances of politics.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: johnm214]
    #8132088 - 03/11/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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so this did happen while he was governor?

And are their any requirements for an impeachment/trial in NY? I couldn't find any, nor any discusion of them.

Who thinks he should be removed?




Yes, it's been happening while he was governor.

There are a few Republicans in New York whose lives Spitzer has been making miserable who want him to step down or face impeachment.

Again, the impeachment talk is bupkis. He will resign.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8132104 - 03/11/08 02:28 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Me and my Republican friends would looooooove for this to be dragged out until November.


"Hillary Clinton was asked about the case late yesterday and, predictably enough, tried to brush it off without comment. “I obviously send my best wishes to the governor and his family,” she told reporters":rofl2:


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8132456 - 03/11/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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This will have almost no impact on the Democrats national chances.




I think you're whistling past the graveyard here but, feh, we'll never know.
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We would never have lost New York anyway and there is way too much other stuff going on for this to even appear on the the radar of the average person.

It's pretty much a non-story for anyone who isn't slavishly devoted to the nuances of politics.




It is most definitely not a non-story if you live in the most important state in the most important country on the only world humans inhabit. Wall Street is positively giddy and not because they're all crooks. This punk went after anybody who made money just because they made money. It's how he got noticed. There's more than a few utterly innocent people he persecuted just to make a splash. Ask Dick Grasso.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8132546 - 03/11/08 04:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

New York Sucks.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8132569 - 03/11/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Yet another pontificating fool hoisted by his own petard. ANY politician who does his grandstanding from the rostrum of morality is unvaryingly a hypocritical shitbag.

How many more times will politicians criticise something in public only to have it later discovered that they are doing it in private.  :whatever:


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    #8132738 - 03/11/08 04:43 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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afoaf said:
I just don't understand why public figures think they can get away with this shit.





I'm no t so disgusted at WHAT dirty stuff the politicians do so much as their hypocracy.

If the man wants to pay 4K to a hooker... let him... fuck, prostitution should be legal.... but it's the fact that he prosecuted a prostitution ring that makes me sick.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: BrAiN]
    #8132760 - 03/11/08 04:47 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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If the man wants to pay 4K to a hooker... let him... fuck, prostitution should be legal.... but it's the fact that he prosecuted a prostitution ring that makes me sick.



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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8132895 - 03/11/08 05:19 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I didn't know who Eliot Spitzer was before this happened but I knew that he was a Democrat right away because it was a female prostitution ring.  :lol:










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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Learyfan]
    #8132899 - 03/11/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

:rolleyes::grin:


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8132981 - 03/11/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

The thing that seems to be underemphasied is that this all came out as an investigation of him laundering money and misusing government funds, our money, not his.

The thing that bothers me is its being presented like its some personal issue of his but no one is giving much attention to how and why this investigation started and that he may have been spending and billing government funds to finance his sex interests. Yes he's a hippocrite and that bothers me but if he was charging this stuff to tax payer money then he should be hung for this.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Shnezbit]
    #8133101 - 03/11/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i predict and hope he gets multiple felony charges.


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    #8133184 - 03/11/08 06:43 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8135433 - 03/12/08 02:41 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i wonder who he fucked with to have this thing leaked.

but any day a politician loses his job is a good day.

maybe i'm unreasonably shallow, but honestly don't people take looks into account when voting? he looks like the hypocrite liar he is.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8135661 - 03/12/08 05:43 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Nothing got leaked.

The indictment of the people running the prostitution ring is a public matter, and once it was established that he was "Client #9", the sordid details were available for anyone to read.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8137432 - 03/12/08 03:22 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Luddite]
    #8137639 - 03/12/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Spitzer got busted for his own banking activity. It was a total surprise that he was a whore monger, they just thought he was doing funky bank shit. Some people are just fucking stupid, like the guys who bought steroids with checks, but Spitzer adds a whole new dimension to it. So does the dumb fucking whore. Cash baby, it's the lifeblood of commerce.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8137649 - 03/12/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

It really was incredibly stupid.

It almost beggars belief.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8138393 - 03/12/08 07:12 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I wonder why you keep hearing about this shit, and not the underlying investigation?

I personally don't care about the hooker, except for
1) The hypocrisy
2) Being a jackass and pulling his wife to his speech




And come on... 4g's for this? Christ, glad my girlfriend doesn't charge me.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8138682 - 03/12/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

For those interested here's the affidavit everyone's alluding to:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/TVNews/Nightly%20News/2008/03-March/affidavit.pdf

The criminal complaint:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/03/10/spitzer.complaint.pdf


Zappa, what do you mean the financial stuff is more damning? Isn't this just fraud per the statutes cuz the underlying activity is illegal?

I mean really, its said wire and mail fraud is about the easiest shit in the world to prove for a US attorney's office.

Since the underlying crime was prostitution, which shouldn't be illegal anyways, it kinda seems like small potatoes to me...

Fill me in on whatever I've missed...

I know this is hypocritical given his actions and stupid bullshit statements in the past regarding prostitution and technical violations of financial/ buisness laws, but the underlying crimes seem just as insignificant as the stuff he's criticized for going after.

EDIT:

Is this the website for Spitzer's service?

http://web.archive.org/web/20070822105502/www.emperorsclubvip.com/WelcomeMain.html

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: johnm214]
    #8138701 - 03/12/08 08:03 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)




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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: johnm214]
    #8140817 - 03/13/08 10:22 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Zappa, what do you mean the financial stuff is more damning? Isn't this just fraud per the statutes cuz the underlying activity is illegal?






It is expressly illegal to structure bank transactions to avoid reporting requirements. Banks are required to report any transactions over $10,000. Any attempt to structure smaller transactions so as to avoid the report is expressly precluded by law. As a prosecutor he used that many times. There's a whole lot of other unseemly shit he's done with money in the past. Like illegal campaign contributions from his father that he attempted to hide.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8142496 - 03/13/08 05:47 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

SPITZER MUST BE PROSECUTED

Here's why.
The Patriot Act requires a vigorous prosecution of ex-Governor Spitzer. If the Feds fail to prosecute him, the next time a would-be terrorist is hauled in by the law his mouthpiece will argue that Spitzer was not prosecuted for money laundering, etc. and "Are you racially profiling my client 'Mohammed X'"? So, in order to safeguard this important anti-terrorism tool, Spitzer must face a full scale prosecution.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: bodynotdead]
    #8142534 - 03/13/08 05:56 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Suits me.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8142683 - 03/13/08 06:26 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

yeah, plus laws should be enforced or stricken

prosecutorial discretion seems to be shorthand for tyranny in many cases.

a terrorist would have a valid argument, though maybe not legally, if spitzer escaped punishment.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8143470 - 03/13/08 08:52 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

finally, this thread delivers CONTENT.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8145405 - 03/14/08 10:20 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

There is a huge business in these high price escorts. Lots of wealthy men (including politicians) regularly do what this Governor did, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Its always amazing to me how this sort of thing turns into front page news. This man must have done something to piss someone up the ladder off to get this kind of media coverage. Not paying up, not towing the line as the masons say.


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: J4S0N]
    #8145450 - 03/14/08 10:35 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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There is a huge business in these high price escorts. Lots of wealthy men (including politicians) regularly do what this Governor did, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Its always amazing to me how this sort of thing turns into front page news. This man must have done something to piss someone up the ladder off to get this kind of media coverage. Not paying up, not towing the line as the masons say.





Maybe its ALL the pissed off people who's lives Spitzer destroyed by putting them in prison for doing the same thing he does......



18 Arrested in Lucrative Prostitution Ring Out of Staten Island


Eighteen men and women were arrested yesterday on charges that they helped run a sophisticated prostitution ring that masked its operation behind a series of corporate fronts and escort services with names like Gentlemen's Delight, Day Dreams and Personal Touch, officials said.

Records that were seized in a search at the home of one of the ring leaders indicated that the operation brought in $1.6 million in nine months, a law enforcement official said.

Prosecutors from the State Organized Crime Task Force, working with the New York Police Department and the F.B.I., charged 16 people with enterprise corruption and two others with falsifying business records and promoting prostitution and money laundering.

About eight midlevel managers ran the ring, which operated 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, using about 15 to 20 drivers to dispatch 30 to 40 prostitutes each day, officials said. In most instances, customers paid $250 for sex, sometimes using credit cards. The transactions, officials said, were processed through merchant accounts held by escort services or limousine companies, and in one instance a company that hired musical bands for weddings.

''This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,'' the state attorney general, Eliot Spitzer, who oversees the task force, said in a statement. ''It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring, and now its owners and operators will be held accountable.''


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E1D91438F93BA35757C0A9629C8B63


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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8147064 - 03/14/08 06:49 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)



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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: J4S0N]
    #8147177 - 03/14/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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There is a huge business in these high price escorts. Lots of wealthy men (including politicians) regularly do what this Governor did, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Its always amazing to me how this sort of thing turns into front page news. This man must have done something to piss someone up the ladder off to get this kind of media coverage. Not paying up, not towing the line as the masons say.




I bet it has a lot to do with his unbelievable hypocricy.

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8147280 - 03/14/08 07:44 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

hehe at least dems get busted for fucking chicks...clinton and spitzer

republifags always get busted for banging guys or boys

haggard was fucking gay dick
craig was tapping for gay dick
foley was looking for young gay dick

social conservatives are just angry closeted turds who cant be themselves so they wanna make sure no one else is having fun

the republican party has become the party of jesus and cock sucking...oh and crazy war mongering with out of control spending

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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #8147978 - 03/14/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

it really scares me.

you?


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    #8148375 - 03/15/08 02:39 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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social conservatives are just angry closeted turds who cant be themselves so they wanna make sure no one else is having fun

the republican party has become the party of jesus and cock sucking...oh and crazy war mongering with out of control spending



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Re: Gov. Eliot Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring [Re: lonestar2004]
    #8148936 - 03/15/08 10:35 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Didn't he ever heard of Nevada?


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