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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8119544 - 03/08/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah! Mudflap girl on one side, a big G on the other is what's stamped on it. (if anyone's tried these-NYC area-let me know)

Thanks for all the input everyone!


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: trashion]
    #8119759 - 03/08/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes I have tried MDMA. But if I can't communicate with someone without the aid of drugs I say they're not worth communicating to. But the original poster can do as she wishes. The worst thing that can happen is you never talk to the guy again :smile:.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #8119869 - 03/08/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We can communicate, he just has problems sharing his feelings.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: trashion]
    #8119938 - 03/08/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

trashion said:
We can communicate, he just has problems sharing his feelings.





maybe he has no feelings like most guys... Don't force someone into pretending they care.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: Achilles]
    #8120321 - 03/08/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Achilles said:
stop using drugs to solve yor problems.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: trashion]
    #8121038 - 03/08/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i would recommend lots and lots of alone time

in my personal experiences sober realizations through internal observation always held much more profound and lasting changes than externally induced states

yea that's not what you want to hear. you want to hear you can pop a pill, talk it out, and live happily ever after. i have found my reality does not work like that. perhaps yours does, who knows

and as for time apart i would recommend a minimum of 5 months. again this is based purely on my experiences, perhaps by your definitions i'm a slow learner. i think 5 months is an extremely brief period of time and is actually a conservative estimate


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: ravin0fff]
    #8121228 - 03/08/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

In 5 months apart how many people are they each going to sleep with though?

It might be worth a last effort before packing it up at all.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #8122177 - 03/09/08 01:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

There are a lot of variables that have just come out. We're actually probably not going to do the x just yet, as he's come to the realization he needs to go into treatment for OCD. But thanks to those with good input and whatever to those who jumped to conclusions.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: trashion]
    #8122327 - 03/09/08 03:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever to your too :smile:. Good luck with the variables and feelings.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #8122432 - 03/09/08 05:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

it might be beneficial, certainly worth a shot, mdma was used passed to psychotherapists by shulgin, and they used it in marriage counseling and reported great results. Some compared it to six months worth of counseling in a single session.

Give it a shot, if you're having trouble communicating due to resentments mdma has a good shot of helping you get past those. Don't mind all these negative nancys on the boards lately.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #8122613 - 03/09/08 07:57 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ExplosiveMango said:
In 5 months apart how many people are they each going to sleep with though?

It might be worth a last effort before packing it up at all.




how is that relevant?

i don't believe loving another detracts from loving anyone else

when you find someone special to you, does it make you love your family less?

if sleeping with other people is seen as a bid deal then only someone who doesn't care about their original partner would do it. in which case the problem isn't sleeping around, it's that the feelings have gone for that particular person.


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: ravin0fff]
    #8123790 - 03/09/08 04:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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ravin0fff said:
Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
In 5 months apart how many people are they each going to sleep with though?

It might be worth a last effort before packing it up at all.




how is that relevant?

i don't believe loving another detracts from loving anyone else

when you find someone special to you, does it make you love your family less?

if sleeping with other people is seen as a bid deal then only someone who doesn't care about their original partner would do it. in which case the problem isn't sleeping around, it's that the feelings have gone for that particular person.




qft


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8124001 - 03/09/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Using a drug to help your troubled relationship would be like using a drug to fix your troubled finances.

The use of MDMA in therapy for relationship problems was an adjunct to therapy, not instead of.
Do more research on the matter preferably with a therapist of like mind. If the relationship is worth anything give it the respect it deserves and approach it with clarity of mind.
Save the MDMA for the celebration of re-committing or parting ways amicably with love & respect.
Please let us know what happens.

Good Luck!


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Re: Using Ecstasy as therapy for broken relationship... [Re: AtrioVent]
    #8124025 - 03/09/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

AtrioVent said:
Using a drug to help your troubled relationship would be like using a drug to fix your troubled finances.

The use of MDMA in therapy for relationship problems was an adjunct to therapy, not instead of.
Do more research on the matter preferably with a therapist of like mind. If the relationship is worth anything give it the respect it deserves and approach it with clarity of mind.
Save the MDMA for the celebration of re-committing or parting ways amicably with love & respect.
Please let us know what happens.

Good Luck!




also I'm not sure if research was in fact done 6 months following the therapy. did the therapy stick or was it quickly forgotten?


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