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Offlinebladerunnerss
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casing question
    #811721 - 08/11/02 09:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Lets say a person made casings for the first time. and did so as follows.
50% verm 50% pete moss and enough crushed oyster shells. add water to the point where when squezed in hand a few drops would come out easily.
This substrate then baked at 400 for over half an hour.

This substrate was placed on the bottom of the casing container. the casing container is a large deep non transparent plastic tub. nothing that would fit into a terrariam and is going to be the terrariam itself.

Three cakes, hopefully of the same strain, probably not, were crumbled in hand using latex gloves. These cakes were in a dual chambered terrariam for about 1-2 weeks. not fruiting too well. however two fat mushrooms had to be revmoved along with one or two primordia. mycelium well established. so, 7cakes of two strains in the dual chambared terrariam and three were selected. so at worst one is diffrent from the other two. PF and PF strophoria.

each spread out in the left middle and right of the tub. Tried not to mix them together just in case all three are not the same.

Now the same substrate was put on top of the crumbled cakes after having been left alone for 24 hours.
So in conclusion the layers go like this. moist 50 50 casing. then three crumbled cakes possably of diffrent strain. then 50 50 casing with crushed oyster shells. oyster shells not on bottom layer.

so If i understand everything correctly and some one took these steps he would let the casing sit undisturbed for some period of time until the mycelium starts to break through the top layer? no misting during the incubation time? no light, of course? just leave it alone and let the mycelium grow beneath the surface of the top layer?

what condtions would a person creat after patching, if needed, was done and the casing is now ready. blast with light? mist? Tep? humidity...80's? Note the casing container is the terrariam. dripshields? make it a dual chaber terrariam??


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Re: casing question [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #811736 - 08/11/02 10:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

sounds good


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Re: casing question [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #811790 - 08/11/02 11:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What if the sky fell tomorrow? What if you woke up with a second nose. You know what I think, I think you're trying too hard. You know what happend too me when I tried too hard I failed, and then I said fuck it, and heyyyy whatd'yaknow. Could you do me a favor and let me know how the Stopharia worked out with the casing. Thanks

I love growin shitake mushrooms, you know they're the good yummie ones.


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Re: casing question [Re: twisted]
    #811795 - 08/11/02 11:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok. thanks. Im just alittle worried that if the three cakes used are not of the same strain this will effect the casing? or maybe ill get a cluster of one on one side and cluster of the other on the other side. will the mycelium network mesh with one another? and be strong. or is this a possable disaster.

but basically i followed the Ryche Hawk's 50/50+ casing tek version 3.0.

by the way. I made two other very small casings in small tuperware. same deal. 50/50 on bottom and top. However, I did NOT sterlize it in the oven. didnt have the time or patience. Im not going to be upset if it fails because I know what i did was wrong. But i really didnt have the time or materials to sterilize all this in one night. so Ive got two small casings, and the big one described in the above post. I think I just might get away without having sterilized the other two small casings.

on one of the two casings i used cakes that were on the third flush sitting in the dual chamber doing nothing. mycelium looked good on the inside of the cakes. They were not fruiting for S!@#. so i just cased them quick. shallow too. im talking small shallow tuperware. hope everything works out ok. this is my first casing.


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Re: casing question [Re: gonnadoit]
    #811798 - 08/11/02 11:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

gonnadoit
In reply to:

know what I think, I think you're trying too hard.



you know, I think your right.
I should have just crumbled, tossed them on the bottom, no bottom layer. and thrown wet/moist verm on top carelessly and left the room.
[btw not being sarcastic. should have kept it as simple as possable first time around.]
but yea. If this actually works ill let you know how the strophoria comes out.


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Re: casing question [Re: bladerunnerss]
    #811856 - 08/12/02 12:22 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

>what condtions would a person creat after patching, if needed, was done and the casing
>is now ready. blast with light? mist? Tep? humidity...80's?

http://shroomery.org/faq/faq.php?display=faq&nr=107&catnr=4&prog=1&lang=en


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Re: casing question [Re: Anno]
    #813308 - 08/12/02 05:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

thank you Anno!

"the introduction of fresh air exchanges and thus, reduction of CO2buildup."

does this mean that you would for the most part keep....say an air tight lid of tightly placed sawran wrap as a lid and let much CO2 build up?
that way when the time is right and you give it fresh air the cake is shocked?

Temperature drop off.
how sitting this huge tub ontop of ice packs?

note that the casing container is the terrarium!
any ideas on how to generate high humidty in that type of set up?
this thing is too large to fit in a fish tank. its about 2+ feet long 1+foot wide and knee, below the knee deep.
Im thinking that misting and such will cause condensation and that condensation will keep collecting on the casing and make for unfavorable water conditions.

"The casing should remain moist but not wet"
Ive got perilite if that helps.

plz help me
Thanks guys


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