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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
#8109792 - 03/06/08 05:09 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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i dont get all this discussion of sin in the first place. sin is an idea of society based on the current zeitgeist. when the commandments were revealed those were prevalent laws or morals of the commanding society. many years earlier stealing and killing was how you got by. many years after (now) society is much more diversified making everyone more liberal toward some of these morals that constantly have changed through time
of course what is considered sin can vary from person to person but what is overall generally accepted as sin or against moral code or law is decided by society and its current characteristics
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: backfromthedead]
#8110063 - 03/06/08 07:55 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Who is this G*d you speak of?
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: Atheist]
#8110443 - 03/06/08 10:50 AM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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Atheist said: my whole point is that you can't have one without the other
Yes, and the statement you provided to demonstrate that point was irrational. How could you determine that there couldn't exist a "heaven" without a "hell" if you have absolutely no evidence that either of them do, or don't, exist? To hold a belief otherwise is religious.
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the devil is extremely fake to me, therefore his opposite (god) is just as fake
It sounds logical, but its irrational.
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big man with white beard in the sky loves everyone, go tell that to starving kids in india
Why is that, because you believe that starving kids in India are substansial proof that there isn't a big man with a white beard in the sky that loves everyone?
I've got news for you, it isn't substansial proof.
Thus, your religious belief in the nonexistence of a g*d. There is no difference between a religious belief in the existence of a g*d as there is in the nonexistence of a g*d. Both beliefs are unsubstantiated but held nonetheless. That is religion. Changing one religion for another isn't an improvement; religion has to be transcended.
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: backfromthedead]
#8110899 - 03/06/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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backfromthedead said: Might the Santa Claus story be traceable to some objective element(s) of reality??
watch "The Pharmacratic Inquisition". the original santa clauses were the village shaman. they would collect their entheogens and go through the village and pass them out. sometimes the snow would be so deep they couldn't go through the door. so he would have to use the chimney of course. anyway....you should watch the movie. it goes into much more detail and comes with a book siting all its sources of info.
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: norml840]
#8110952 - 03/06/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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My point exactly. I actually stumbled upon the first release, which was pretty poorly produced, some few years ago. Christmas of '06 I sat and read Astrotheology and Shamanism cover to cover as a follow up. Interesting stuff.
James Arthur unloads on the subject also.
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: backfromthedead]
#8112276 - 03/06/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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I never believed in Santa Claus.
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Re: My problem with religion, specifically those that preach HELL [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
#8112340 - 03/06/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 25 days ago) |
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