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Thanks, your blogs are gold.
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You are most welcome, backfromthedead. I was quite honored to see you sharing it about.
New blog here for those who are so inclined: Voices of Recovery
Meanwhile, you seem to be in good space. Me too. 
Namaste.
Music of the Hour: Shine On You Crazy Diamond
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OrgoneConclusion said:
You already started a thread on this.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
Did not.
Oh, be quiet.
No, YOU shut up!
Now, you are making us look bad.
is schizophrenia really this simple?
the audience is waiting 
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#8116084 - 03/07/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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'is schizophrenia really this simple?'
Johnny Depp would show you it might be.
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mycould
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so me having full blown conversations with myself might not be such a bad thing? I feel that it hinders my ability to fully concentrate on things sometimes though, you seem to have some experience with this backfromthedead... any advice on how to tune it out when need be?
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#8121892 - 03/08/08 11:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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mycould said:
so me having full blown conversations with myself might not be such a bad thing? I feel that it hinders my ability to fully concentrate on things sometimes though, you seem to have some experience with this backfromthedead... any advice on how to tune it out when need be?
Mr. Miyagi said it best...
'Concentrate! Focus power!'
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mycould
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wax on wax off?
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Interesting stuff about schizophrenia and shamanism. I recently had what I guess must be called a "schizophrenic break", which did dissolve my ego, leaving it very unstable for a long time afterwards. It came about through social isolation (solitary confinement, really...)
From what I experienced I can say I think Casteneda was on to something when he talked about there being bands of the Eagle's emanations - which we can tune into. I felt like I went through, or tuned into, different bands, and felt a sense of control. It was a bit like the mushroom colour spectrum, without drugs. That increased thickness, slight cartoonishness and increased clarity of everything. The really saturated colours... Like "dropping" closer in towards the Self.
Anti-psychotics, far as I can tell, if you don't have the audio and visual hallucinations (ie. the full on "nightmare come to life" psychosis) makes thoughts a lot more 'clear' and enhances concentration. I think substance abuse threw a lot of my head out of balance - the anti-psychotics aid in overcoming this. Just thought I'd add that in...
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Wherever the hero may wander, whatever he may do, he is ever in the presence of his own essence — for he has the perfected eye to see. There is no separateness. Thus, just as the way of social participation may lead in the end to a realization of the All in the individual, so that of exile brings the hero to the Self in all.
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For, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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#8126274 - 03/10/08 02:35 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Enhancing concentration is the result of wanting to know truth, we tune into glorious wavelengths and god rewards us by giving us what we seek, we want to know good and the good is known
substance abuse might be necessary to find the balance, but it is abuse, you can get off it at any time, trust in the higher self 
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AlteredAgain said:
e-hug coming your way!
He can get the same in my direction... it sucks to have your rights stripped away.
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backfromthedead said:
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mycould said:
so me having full blown conversations with myself might not be such a bad thing? I feel that it hinders my ability to fully concentrate on things sometimes though, you seem to have some experience with this backfromthedead... any advice on how to tune it out when need be?
Mr. Miyagi said it best...
'Concentrate! Focus power!'
Talking to yourself is like praying... what's wrong with that? I might talk to myself to focus, I might talk to myself to accentuate the moment of ecstasy taken by a pleasurable moment... I might even sing some songs cause they are in my head and what is the problem with that?
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A spot of Sunshine: We are energy,... matter is energy that simply has been reduced to a crawl and condensed together to form something.
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EternalCowabunga
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There's nothing wrong with conversing with one self IMO
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jonnyjonjonjon
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backfromthedead said:
What a FUCKING JOKE
Schizophrenia as stargate
I wish you the best when your shit collapses
Elaborate.
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Thanks, your blogs are gold.
And what do your other personalities have to say about this?
Wait. It's Orgone Confusion who has Schizo problems. One of his personalities is a midget porn star named 'Bobo' 
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jonnyjonjonjon said:
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backfromthedead said:
What a FUCKING JOKE
Schizophrenia as stargate
I wish you the best when your shit collapses
Elaborate.
Dude he hasn't been here for a year and he did elaborate.
Thanks for bumping this though, this will help a friend.
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EternalCowabunga
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#11273486 - 10/18/09 08:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's me, the 21st century schizoid man
Man, I don't even remember making those posts. It's like reading the posts of a completely different person. Trippy.
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damn, why is backfromthedead banned?
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#11277380 - 10/19/09 01:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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he's back in balance. no worries.
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To produce a schizophrenic break you need to collapse the ego, preferably as rapidly as possible. There are different ways of defining the ego but I define it thusly: The ego is a structure of the personality that is made up of what we believe to be true about ourselves, others, the world around us, and our place in it. We form these beliefs as based on our relationships, our experiences, the roles we play and the activities we engage in. All of these combined, create our ego -- which is, for most of us, our sense of who we are. I prefer to think of the ego in this regard as the little self.
I agree and have come to virtually the same conclusion in my thinking. Personally I think the collapse of the ego occurs with the collapse of a centralized will. In sufism the ego is described as being "the outcome of a vortex of desires." I believe psychedelics can sometimes result in schizophrenia because they have the potential to drastically undermine and displace an individuals value system by making the person realize much of what gave them there sense of self has no real meaning in reality.
The will collapses but mind is still creating thoughts. In a sense we do not create our thoughts but are thoughts are created to coincide perfectly with our will. Right now I want you to completely stop thinking! impossible.. so if we cant choose not to think then are we really creating our thoughts? If an individual will is displaced then that persons thoughts will no longer be in synch with will causing the individual to experience these thoughts as being external. This seems to make sense for OCD aswell. I think that maybe the persons level of spiritual advancement primarily determines what happens, whether this break makes a rapid spiritual advance or longer-term mental chaos and misery.
"The mystic swims in the same waters the mad-man drowns." -don't know the author.
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