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Friggin Joe
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Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color?
#8077238 - 02/27/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 6 days ago) |
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My first half-assed attempt at just throwing some spores on brown rice actually worked out. I got mason jars, my pressure cooker, and the next time I followed the quart jar tek to a tee. Problem is, all 6 have orange in the rice upon checking them. I noted I did not see mention of it being organic. For the hell of it, I PCd some of the same rice at 15-17 PSI for about 90 minutes, and left it in the PC. Upon checking it the next day, its got orange in spots. The rice had been soaked in water prior to PCing. Is something surviving 90+ minutes of pressure cooking and coming on so fast its in showing the next day, or could there be some additive causing discoloration? I would hardly expect the second possibility, but having 0/6 jars come out with orange after being PCd and put right into a glove box in a clean and lysolled-to-death area and then seeing the damned stuff in the rice that never left the PC has got me scratching my head.
BTW its all gonna be cakes in the terrarium from here on in. Quart jars a pain.
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: Friggin Joe]
#8092016 - 03/01/08 11:02 PM (16 years, 3 days ago) |
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Could you explain your procedure step by step . I don't have a clue as to what exact tek you "half assed"(quart jar tek?). It almost sounds like you used straight rice of the "brown variety and treated it like WBS or Rye.
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Friggin Joe
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: The shroomy 1]
#8093268 - 03/02/08 10:48 AM (16 years, 2 days ago) |
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The first time I had spores, I just boiled/steamed some brown rice in squared jars, and inoculated, meaning to just let the shrooms grow in the jar. Worked well, those cakes are still flushing. I then found the quart jar tek and saw how many things I did wrong.
I followed that tek, including mason jars and obtaining a pressure cooker. The rice I used is covered in orange. My first guesswork batch also had rice w/ orange, but that was before I read up on contams, my only concern was blue mold. Those are fruiting nicely.
What's bothering me is the orange around my rice, I thought the last batch of quart jars would fare better as I pressure cooked them for 90 minutes. For the heck of it, I pressure cooked the same rice again, and left it all sealed for a day. Next day, upon opening the PC, I found the same orange color in the rice. Which led me to the question of whether there is a contam so badass it's surviving a 90 minute PC, or if it can be coming from the rice or an additive itself. Rust of sorts, perhaps?
Edited by Friggin Joe (03/02/08 10:50 AM)
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: Friggin Joe]
#8096742 - 03/03/08 09:23 AM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
For the heck of it, I pressure cooked the same rice again, and left it all sealed for a day. Next day, upon opening the PC, I found the same orange color in the rice.
Since contaminants can't grow that fast, something is changing color in the rice itself. RR
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8099852 - 03/03/08 10:18 PM (16 years, 1 day ago) |
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hey joe, does that orange stuff look almost a bit pinkish? and did the mycelium have a hard time colonizing it?
i have a couple cakes that have real aggressive myc growth but a few spots that have a tint of pink/peach and the mycelium seems to avoid it. im worried because if they fail its the end of the line. i have nothing left. and it was such a great strain.
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Friggin Joe
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: freetree77]
#8101946 - 03/04/08 03:52 PM (16 years, 14 hours ago) |
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Yeah and it fits the contam description. What puzzles me is how it got there, and I'm even talking about after only one day IN the PC.
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Re: Does non-organic rice have an additive that may be turning color? [Re: Friggin Joe]
#8103368 - 03/04/08 08:57 PM (16 years, 9 hours ago) |
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i think mine is contam from brf/verm residue stuck inside the needle from my last grow. i didnt torch the tip i only swabed with alcohol. hopefully this is why, and i learned my lesson.
would it be possible to get a sample of the myc and hopefully isolate from contam on cardboard, then add to grain?
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