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Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/
    #8103366 - 03/04/08 08:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Its time, I just can’t be without one any more. They're just too damn convenient.

I need a laptop that will serve mostly for school work but it also need to be able to perform intense MATLAB operations and stuff like CAD. I’m an Engineering major.

Small and portable a must. Im not looking for a portable desktop. I need something convenient to carry around.

Right now im thinking about the HP Pavilion tx2000z series. Any thoughts?

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oriented/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8103390 - 03/04/08 09:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I got a Dell Inspiron 1520 for $1270 after upgrading the processor and memory, but it started at less than a grand.

It works great and I have no complaints.

Definately recommended


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8103449 - 03/04/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Mojo said:I need a laptop that will serve mostly for school work but it also need to be able to perform intense MATLAB operations and stuff like CAD. I’m an Engineering major.


Ha, I was running Maple, MATLAB, and XP on an old PIII w/368MB RAM as little as a week ago.

Power supply went, so I got a Lenovo T61 ThinkPad. I love it. I got a screaming deal off of ebay because it has one dead pixel.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: DieCommie]
    #8103555 - 03/04/08 09:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm,

Im running a compaq AMD Turon 64 797MHz, 384 MB Ram and matlab is severly holding up the system. So much so that when it bogs down, the program just terminates and i loose shit that i havent saved.

I want something that will run very smoothly. This PC strugles to even open Word 2003.

Edit to ask

Are Tablet PCs over rated. Or do they have some good use?

Edited by Mojo (03/04/08 09:39 PM)

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8103600 - 03/04/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

dont be fooled by specs get a mac


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8103662 - 03/04/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Macs are too expensive. I think I have made up my mind, I think ill go with the tx2000z series bought from sams club with a three year service agreement that starts after the warranty runs out. That will cover me in case the HP fucks up on me. Plus in a few years I can short the damn thing out and get a new one of equal value.

Seems like the smartest choice ATM. That is unless someone can convince me otherwise...

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8103707 - 03/04/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, I made my laptop purchase after reading 5 different articles comparing laptops and the Dell inspiron is one of the best for the money.

Like I said, I upgraded some stuff based on my uses for the computer, but for just school stuff these should be great. Comes with all kinds of software for school use as well.

Good luck man, hope things go good with the new laptop you purchase. Keep us updated, I'd like to learn more about some different companies :thumbup:


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: dill705]
    #8108199 - 03/05/08 08:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you get 100 off for being a student so 1200 gets you a machine that will run vista better then any dell. if you wanna do that. no virus no spam. and customer service is really good.


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8108792 - 03/05/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok so if i get the black Macbook for 1500. Will it run windows just as well as any other brand??? Can it connect to networks for non macs. Like will it connect to my home network?
Can i transfer files to it over the network.

Will it be ok for 3d design programs like CAD?

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8108975 - 03/05/08 11:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a Mac expert, but CAD seems right up Mac's alley


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8109000 - 03/05/08 11:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well ya that much if you get teh black one i think they charge a bit mroe jsut cause its black to. so try and change teh specs on teh white one to teh same as the black one. will be 100 bucks cheaper also remember after market hard drives are cheap. or get an external cheap to.

yes it will network fine. i have a PC as a hard drive and watch all teh movies on there through my mac. (looks alot better).

yes PC magazine found that a macbook pro ran vista faster then any top of the line Pc laptop.(alienware ect) so if you must run windows(which you wont after you get used to OS x)you can.

dont forget to get the student discount 100$. if you wait till the fall they usually give you a ipod nano or liek ~180 bucks off another type of ipod. to so that really knocks the price down once you sell that to someone.

and dude. they use macs to make like all teh animation cartoons. (be it better ones, but still). and those are pretty nice machines now just updated. and hey will run any program liek that fine. run a search for some Os x versions of what you want.

again there customer service is wicked. take your PC back to best buy see how much bullshit it wil be to get it fixed. Apple will send people to yrou house to fix it and have you ever tried to call windows to talk to someone who knows nothing. i have it sucked. ive called apple less wait way happier to soup you up and help you out. and if you do order ask how long it will take adn be liek well maybe ill just get it from teh store. prob throw you some goodies like a case or somethin.

just my opinion though. prob should work for those bastards. haha


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8110114 - 03/06/08 08:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

The only reason im spending extra for the black one is because its black. I don’t want a white one...

So if I throw windows XP or vista on the MAC book. Can I insert any normal windows disc into the drive and install the program? Is it just like having a windows PC or are there certain consequences.

Will my files made in MS Office Mac edition work on other PC's?

I don’t really plan to use windows exclusively, but if I need it, I would like to have it available.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8110269 - 03/06/08 09:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea its normal.

could get a black clip on case.


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8116335 - 03/07/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just stopped by my Campus Computer store and they are liquidating their old stock of Macbook pros. I can get last year ( i Believe the 2007 model) for a mere 1399 Which for a pro edition has me very interested.

These are the specs:

Apple MacBook Pro 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo w/15.4-inch Widescreen Display
2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM 2x1GB
120GB Serail ATA Hard Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 128MB SDRAM
Backlit Keyboard & Mac OS-U.S. English

I can also get the upgraded one for 1699

Here are its specs:
Apple MacBook Pro 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo w/15.4-inch Widescreen Display
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM 2x1GB
160GB Serail ATA Hard Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 256MB SDRAM
Backlit Keyboard & Mac OS-U.S. English

And I can get the new 2008 low end model for 1799.

I’m not really considering anything but the 1399 model. I feel it has more than I need...
The store is closed till Monday, and they have two of the lower end models left.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8116561 - 03/07/08 03:53 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My Dell inspiron has almost the same specs.

I'm trying to find the info right now, but after tax and shipping I paid $1270, so keep an open mind.

Will post when I find my info... :wink:


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: dill705]
    #8116645 - 03/07/08 04:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If you go to dells website and look at the 15.4 inch laptops, I selected the 1520 and got the middle option, which the call the "better" option. Then I upgraded the Processor and hard drive.

I wish I would have upgraded the cd-drive, because I thought I could burn DVD's but I can't.

But here are my specs at a cost of $1270:

Processor = Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7250 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Display = 15.4 inch anti-glare, widescreen
Memory = 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
Hard Drive = Size: 250GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
(Apparently I didn't upgrade, this is the standard, or they changed it on me?)
OS = Windows Vista
Optical Drive = shit my browser just fucked me...

But anyways, it's been about 5 months since I order my laptop, and the starting price has gone down, and I think that they upped the standard hard drive.

Really, if I were you, I'd check this out.
Hope this helps man :hippie:


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: dill705]
    #8116690 - 03/07/08 04:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

is your dell that small or light, battery life? does it get viruses spam ware? and same specs or not the macbook pro will run windows faster :smile: haha so there.


oh and man make sure they give you leopard os x.


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8116757 - 03/07/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

My battery life is excellent, I also upgraded that, I forgot. For me weight isn't an issue because I don't intend on carrying my computer everywhere I go.

I got free virus protectoin for a year, but there are very good, and free, anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on the web. In fact my college makes you use AVG anti-virus to use their wireless network.

I haven't had any infection of any kind since I got it and I download often and love internet porn.

I understand your dedication to mac, but most people have more of a dedication to there wallet. :frown:

Besides, if the specs are the same(processor and memory), how does mac run windows faster? Kinda seems like a biased comment to me, but if you can back it up with something I don't know, I'll take your word for it. :thumbup:


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~dill705~

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: dill705]
    #8116922 - 03/07/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I paid 700 for my Lenovo T61. It has excellent battery life (3-4 hrs), dual core 2.0ghz T300 processor, 2 GB RAM, discrete graphics w/128MB, 7200RPM Harddrive, N Network Adapter, 1440x900 resolution. It pwns. Fuck a mac. They are over priced crap.

Also fuck buying from the school or over priced brick and mortar stores. New Egg and Ebay FTW.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: dill705]
    #8116928 - 03/07/08 05:12 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Your dell was priced with a lower end processor and no stand alone graphics card... Plus the macbook pro has a higher res screen. 1200X800 is for 13.3" screens IMO. The Hard drive and ram can be upgraded cheaply so those were the least of my concerns. I mainly bought it for the standalone graphics card.

But that’s neither here nor there. I bought the damn mac!! But I haven’t opened it yet… How can I tell if it came with leopard os x?

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8117029 - 03/07/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

it will have a seethru menu bar at teh top. and a application called time machine. im sure if you go back they will give it to you. along with teh new ilife if they didnt already. did they give you a student discount or because it was already discounted they didnt. congrats on your purchase.

might want to d/l parallels or vmware fushion if you want to run other OS's. shouldnt but if you want to.

dill:

but after upgrading the battery for around 60-70 bucks your comp isnt any cheaper or you did it right from teh get go. not to mention a bit slower proc. and you dont havea dvd burner.
and here is the link about vista on a mac. you can fallow it back to original article http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/irony/macbook-pro-is-the-fastest-windows-vista-notebook-317060.php


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: DieCommie]
    #8117039 - 03/07/08 05:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
I paid 700 for my Lenovo T61. It has excellent battery life (3-4 hrs), dual core 2.0ghz T300 processor, 2 GB RAM, discrete graphics w/128MB, 7200RPM Harddrive, N Network Adapter, 1440x900 resolution. It pwns. Fuck a mac. They are over priced crap.

Also fuck buying from the school or over priced brick and mortar stores. New Egg and Ebay FTW.




And im sure the Lenovo is great for a computer bought at an online garage sale. It’s also great for when you want to put a big sign in front of you when you’re studying in the library that says "I’m still a Virgin, pussy passes me by"

Lenovos are the ugliest computers I’ve ever seen. And you dont even know what kind of graphics card you have in it.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8117061 - 03/07/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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the man said:
it will have a seethru menu bar at teh top. and a application called time machine. im sure if you go back they will give it to you. along with teh new ilife if they didnt already. did they give you a student discount or because it was already discounted they didnt. congrats on your purchase.

might want to d/l parallels or vmware fushion if you want to run other OS's. shouldnt but if you want to.
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Is there no way to tell from outside the case? 



I’m apprehensive to open it until im satisfied I got a decent deal on it.  This is the older model so they were getting rid of these for $1499 and I got a $100 discount making it 1399.  That brings it down into ibook territory so I thought it was a good deal but maybe not...  This is my first mac so I don’t know shit about the software…




Its getting hard not to open it.... :crazy2:

After Student discount Leopard is only $69.00...  I cant imagine they'd just give it to me.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8117090 - 03/07/08 05:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know what graphics card I have in it?  Of course I do, I downloaded the drivers for it...

Personally, I think they are the best looking of any laptop.  I have had numerous compliments on it since I got it.  The other day one of my classmates was staring at it and said ' That laptop is beautiful ' :lol:  I was a little freaky, but also funny and cool.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: DieCommie]
    #8117108 - 03/07/08 05:57 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

no it will be inside teh box. tehy usually do if you just bought it it shoudl come with teh newest version. buying it is just for peopel who want to upgrade. i am sure they did. and if not. you can jsut download it anyway. or jsut ask them or email apple.


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8117187 - 03/07/08 06:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, i think im going to go ahead and open it up.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: DieCommie]
    #8119670 - 03/08/08 12:34 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I dont know what graphics card I have in it?  Of course I do, I downloaded the drivers for it...




I didn't have to download any graphics drivers at all. :smirk:  Leopard even configured my network itself, connected to both of the shared computers in my house automatically.

I didn't even have to download drivers when i installed XP through bootcamp.

Wow, i just realized this thing spell checks inside the shroomery dialogue box. Thats pretty fly too... :rockon:

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8121302 - 03/08/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so million dollar question. how do you like it? and how does it feel to use something that just works. haha go ahead plug in a random printer.


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    #8121478 - 03/08/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I love it man. After having some time to play with it a little bit, it becomes quite clear where the extra money goes into these systems.
Its just the little details like the power plug, the back lit keyboard, and the remote control, and even the accelerometer that they put into these things. I was having a little fun with iAlert and Mac liquid earlier.
Right now I have MS Office 2008 installed and its completely compatible with my PC version of office which is old (like 2003). I haven’t installed anything else yet, but I downloaded iLife. Have you heard of it? Think I should install it?

I think I already said this but this thing is smoking fast. Tears through XP like nothing. Probably won’t ever put vista on it. I’m hoping to do 90% of my tasks through OS 10.5, and save the windows partition for stubborn programs that I cant get for mac yet.
Oh and one more thing, probably one of the nicest features I noticed. All of the Help menu’s, and specifically the boot camp installation manual is so damn clear and concise. Its like someone sat down and spent a week on that short manual alone. This is a nice feature when learning a new system. Esp. considering how most manuals these days are seemingly written by someone that can barley speak English.
And like you said, shit just fucking works on this thing. There basically is no set up.
I’m going to stop because I could go on and on. But so far, im giving it a big thumbs up.

Thanks for all your help man.

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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: Mojo]
    #8121727 - 03/08/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yea Office is nice to have running on OSX especially for school. although keynote (appel version of powerpoint) is really nice. and office for mac is better then windows haha sorta funny.

ilife comes free with you mac and is included on teh install disc. its like under other software if you put it in.

and ya id put it in. iphoto garageband imovie. cool apps theres def better but will take care of your pictures adn what not. pretty organized and easy to use for simple stuff.

maybe get vmware fusion. it allows you to run windows and osx at teh same time so you dont have to reboot!

well im glad you are very happy with your purchase. i know the feeling. not only does it work but its impressive. cant say ive had that with any PC.

also one of my favorite things about osx is its search feature in the finder(any window with apps or docs or whatever) it is like warp speed compared to windows. and take no longer then 1-2 seconds to search for anything on your whole comp. little bit longer when you search over your network but still faster then windows. hahah. no more days of waiting 10 minutes for it to return a search for something.

oh and you have a year to get apple care warranty. might wanna pic that up. there not stingy about fixing things. my friends nephew put coins in his slot drive, and they replaced it for him. not sure if he took them out. but you get my point.


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mactheripper
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virtuedesktop. cool smack the computer and it changes desktops.


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Re: Best Laptop for 1k. School oreinted/ [Re: the man]
    #8121771 - 03/08/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thanks man.  I noticed that I do already have iLife on it.  I guess I downloaded it for nothing.  I’m on Spring Break right now so I have 1 week to learn about mac until I have to concentrate on other things.

Oh yea, and I noticed how fast the search is already (I meant to bring it up earlier).  It’s almost as thought its real time as you type it in... :lol:

I’m just blown away by the whole system.  And even when running windows.  It loads CAD and MATLAB 7.4 quicker than my damn desktop!  Smokin system for sure.

Alright im done... :grin:

Thanks again man.

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