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So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD.
#8092963 - 03/02/08 08:37 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Is is even really neccessary the procedure looks pretty complex and I hear its very difficult to make pure LSD?
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8092969 - 03/02/08 08:41 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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no and no
You'll never make LSD ..thats a fact
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: RandomHero]
#8092973 - 03/02/08 08:42 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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RandomHero said: no and no
You'll never make LSD ..thats a fact
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: sam420]
#8092992 - 03/02/08 08:48 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'm a first year chemistry major. Hopefully one day i'll be able to synthesize LSD and some other research chemicals. But by no means am I going to college to learn how to make LSD. That's stupid.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Frost000]
#8092998 - 03/02/08 08:51 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Anyone with a High school Diploma or a GED equivalent can make LSD. It's a little complicated, and you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges. I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8093015 - 03/02/08 08:56 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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It would probably be easier to find someone who makes it and have them teach you.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8093019 - 03/02/08 08:59 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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you asked for it...
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: MrMax]
#8093196 - 03/02/08 10:08 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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MrMax said: Anyone with a High school Diploma or a GED equivalent can make LSD. It's a little complicated, and you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges. I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: RandomHero]
#8093223 - 03/02/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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why is everyone being an asshole to this guy
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: sirbojangles]
#8093244 - 03/02/08 10:40 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Ya I don't get it neither?
You don't really need school if you can learn and understand what you read yourself.
If your good at reading and understanding and don't mind rereading then you can learn to make it on your own.
Your not gonna be making it as fast and easily as Meth can be made but it can definately be made by self education and commitment and if you got the money to spend.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: sirbojangles]
#8093258 - 03/02/08 10:45 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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sirbojangles said: why is everyone being an asshole to this guy
Well, he is that crazy guy who wanted to go into the wild. And this question has been asked a bazillion times.
But to give his question a fair answe, no school is absolutely required, but it's the easiest way to get hands-on lab experience. Finding someone to teach you the process would probably be easier, but I don't think acid cooks go around selling their services as tutors.
Basically, if you have access to the requisite chemicals (lysergic acid or an appropriate precursor, POCl3, and diethylamide are the biggies), the process only takes ~$1000 in glassware. It is not as difficult as it is made out to be, though it does require some chemistry skill.
To the OP, read the synthesis in TiHKAL. Then look up all the words you don't understand. It's a pretty straightforward route that Sasha takes, if you can wade through the chemistry-speak. Taking two years of college chemistry (through Organic Chem) should give you the backkground to understand what he's saying.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: hpi]
#8093264 - 03/02/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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hpi said: If your good at reading and understanding and don't mind rereading then you can learn to make it on your own.
If he's asking how much college it takes to make LSD, I assume he's not good at reading, or he'd have found the answer all over the place. Unless he's just bad at looking into things that interest him.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: MrMax]
#8093265 - 03/02/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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MrMax said: Anyone with a High school Diploma or a GED equivalent can make LSD. It's a little complicated, and you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges. I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct.
HAHA you've gotta be like, what, 14? 15? i bet you make toothpaste/orange lsd all the time right?
why dont you send me a sheet...
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8093274 - 03/02/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I sink he vas joh-keeng, yah.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: sirbojangles]
#8093275 - 03/02/08 10:51 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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sirbojangles said: why is everyone being an asshole to this guy
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8093277 - 03/02/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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MrMax said: Anyone with a High school Diploma or a GED equivalent can make LSD. It's a little complicated, and you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges. I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct.
HAHA you've gotta be like, what, 14? 15? i bet you make toothpaste/orange lsd all the time right?
why dont you send me a sheet...
HAHAHAHAHAHA, dude, max's post REEKED of sarcasm.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8093286 - 03/02/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I'm 110% positive he was being sarcastic...
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: RipVanWinkle]
#8093293 - 03/02/08 10:56 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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lolz at PilzeEssen
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8093303 - 03/02/08 10:58 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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MrMax said: Anyone with a High school Diploma or a GED equivalent can make LSD. It's a little complicated, and you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges. I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct.
HAHA you've gotta be like, what, 14? 15? i bet you make toothpaste/orange lsd all the time right?
why dont you send me a sheet...
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Robo]
#8093356 - 03/02/08 11:15 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Unkle Fester put out a guide to synthesis. Not sure if it's any good. It's above my knowledge and i don't have the time, space or resources to even get started.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
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sirbojangles said: why is everyone being an asshole to this guy
Well, he is that crazy guy who wanted to go into the wild. And this question has been asked a bazillion times.
But to give his question a fair answe, no school is absolutely required, but it's the easiest way to get hands-on lab experience. Finding someone to teach you the process would probably be easier, but I don't think acid cooks go around selling their services as tutors.
Basically, if you have access to the requisite chemicals (lysergic acid or an appropriate precursor, POCl3, and diethylamide are the biggies), the process only takes ~$1000 in glassware. It is not as difficult as it is made out to be, though it does require some chemistry skill.
To the OP, read the synthesis in TiHKAL. Then look up all the words you don't understand. It's a pretty straightforward route that Sasha takes, if you can wade through the chemistry-speak. Taking two years of college chemistry (through Organic Chem) should give you the backkground to understand what he's saying.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#8093377 - 03/02/08 11:21 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Fester's got the right idea, for the most part, he just fucks up in the details.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#8093385 - 03/02/08 11:22 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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im hoping it was sarcasm. you cant really tell when youre on a fucking computer. for all i know hes a little kid thinking he knows what hes talking about. theres quite a few around the forum.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8093393 - 03/02/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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PilzeEssen said: im hoping it was sarcasm. you cant really tell when youre on a fucking computer. for all i know hes a little kid thinking he knows what hes talking about. theres quite a few around the forum.
true sarcasm is hard to get accrosss on teh interwebs, but that post was REALLY sarcastic.
"I won't elaborate any more for fear of revealing too much dangerous information, but I'm sure you could google it. Anything written in all CAPS is probably correct."
That was funny!
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#8093401 - 03/02/08 11:27 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Judging from the first few pages of that PDF, you don't need any formal training in chemistry, but good luck without it. I wish you luck if you decide to attempt, but it looks like a damn lot of work and reading to even begin to understand the process. Just remember, if a chemist can do it, so can you. He/she wasn't born with his/her knowledge, he/she worked hard to gain it so naturally you will too.
I feel your pain though.. if only it were as easy as baking a cake. Not many things worth while are easy though.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: anyone420]
#8093407 - 03/02/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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You can read textbooks and learn the theory without going to school if your super smart. But lab techniques can only really be learned in a lab, for that you need school or a mentor.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: DieCommie]
#8093419 - 03/02/08 11:33 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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or an ochem book with some labware, really, it's not that hard to teach yourself how to work under a vaccumn and proper lab procedure.
People make chemistry out to be some super difficult practice that only a small portion of people can pull off. One of the first LSD chemists had no practical lab practice and taught himself how to make the chemical.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: coda]
#8093423 - 03/02/08 11:36 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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coda said: People make chemistry out to be some super difficult practice that only a small portion of people can pull off. One of the first LSD chemists had no practical lab practice and taught himself how to make the chemical.
This is true, Owsley had no formal training in chemistry. And his LSD is still talked about in reverent tones today.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093672 - 03/02/08 01:06 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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ya where was it that these precursors are available?
I could probably get some in mexico if I bribe someone.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093689 - 03/02/08 01:10 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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If you can't take the initiative to look into it yourself, you probably shouldn't be even thinking about making acid.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093735 - 03/02/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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sorry to ask such a question on a drug based forum where i would think perhaps someone here might have experience.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093743 - 03/02/08 01:33 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I want Mr. Max to come back
"you will need a lot of toothpaste and oranges"
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8093752 - 03/02/08 01:37 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I doubt someone with experience synthesizing LSD would be posting about it here
But I wasn't just saying that to be an asshole; I'm serious. I wouldn't want to be taking acid make by someone who couldn't even be bothered to look into where to get his precursors and had to ask about it on a drug forum.
Besides, your s/n is AwesomeBastard... kind of invites arrogant replies, don't it?
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093764 - 03/02/08 01:42 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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ergot is available legally, you used to be able to buy it from JLF but they closed up shop not too long ago.
There are a couple of other precursors that are pretty much impossible to obtain in the US without raising suspicion, and they entail a moderately difficult synth to make em yourself, but is possible.
IMO the "easiest" method of synthesizing LSD would be the LSA --> LSD route.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: coda]
#8093811 - 03/02/08 01:56 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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coda said: IMO the "easiest" method of synthesizing LSD would be the LSA --> LSD route.
i thought LSD couldn't be made from LSA and it was a rumor made up by kids...
also, doesn't LSD manufacture require more than $1000 in labware? i heard $10,000.
id rather just grow weed and smoke it...maybe extract some mescaline...
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: LayYouIn]
#8093821 - 03/02/08 02:01 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: LayYouIn]
#8093836 - 03/02/08 02:08 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Dude.. just no.
The main thing about the LSD-25 synth is separating out the isomers and the enantiomers.
And if possible converting the inactive isomers to D-LSD.
I read through the tek in TiHKAL, and it doesn't sound too difficult. Obviously you would need the right equipment and ET, but other than that, I imagine no chem major would find it difficult.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: LayYouIn]
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coda said: IMO the "easiest" method of synthesizing LSD would be the LSA --> LSD route.
i thought LSD couldn't be made from LSA and it was a rumor made up by kids...
Potassium hydroxide will hydrolyze LSA to lysergic acid. It's the exact same thing that you do if you're starting with ET
Maybe you're confusion was that he didn't write in the middle step, eg LSA -> LA (-> activated LA) -> LSD
Activating lysergic acid for the addition of diethylamide can be accomplished many ways, the POCl3 route is just reported to be the best in terms of ease and yield.
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LayYouIn said: also, doesn't LSD manufacture require more than $1000 in labware? i heard $10,000.
Depends on whether you get your labware through manufacturers or through ebay. But I stand by my ~$1000 figure. I went through a list of what's required in an LSD thread a while back, I think john was calling my figure an overestimate.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8093964 - 03/02/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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This thread has made me wish that i would have talked to my old roommate about synth'g lsd. Damn, he was the smartest guy i have ever known. As a junior he was a TA in organ chem lab. Anyway, he had access to everything, and he had the knowledge to do it. We just never had that discussion. Maybe if we had we'd both be in jail. who knows. It's interesting to read about this stuff though.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8093969 - 03/02/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Two years atleast.
But as others said, you dont have to go to school to learn how to synthesize a particular compound. Chemistry taught at school is more for building a base for those who want to venture into the unknown a bit.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#8093971 - 03/02/08 03:01 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Depends on whether you get your labware through manufacturers or through ebay. But I stand by my ~$1000 figure. I went through a list of what's required in an LSD thread a while back, I think john was calling my figure an overestimate.
I think the most expensive piece of equipment you need to buy is a chromatograph column to isolate the isomers and pull out what you need. The rest is pretty basic lab equipment.
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Maybe you're confusion was that he didn't write in the middle step, eg LSA -> LA (-> activated LA) -> LSD
yah, my shorthand there was just saying it is possible to move from LSA extracted from HBWR seeds to LSD. In fact it's a patented method, so i know it's plausible
As mentioned you don't need ET at all, i guess it may make things easier in some synths and it removes the possibility of poisoning yourself with ergot, but, you CAN purchase ergot legally and that's one of the major precursors to producing LSD.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: coda]
#8094034 - 03/02/08 03:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Don't let anyone tell you that you'll never be able to make lsd.
If you're smart and dedicated, you can learn enough chemistry to make it happen. Good luck!
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: KetamineKatalyst]
#8094037 - 03/02/08 03:23 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Yeah definitely, I encourage you to make LSD! Don't listen to nay sayers.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Rebirtha]
#8326497 - 04/25/08 10:37 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm sure many people who put all the time, effort, and money to become a Chemist major would be willing to risk it all to make LSD. I'd stick with shrooms, much more easier to keep low key and without the complexity and danger of chemicles. Though for all the intelligent people that do make good quality lsd, I tip my hat to you. Not an easy skill to learn and follow through on.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8326981 - 04/25/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get a Phd in chemistry, get a job that pays 200,000* a year starting, then buy all the LSD you could want.
You could even find a job at a lab close to an area that is never dry.
*I have no idea what the average pay is for someone with a Phd in chem.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Chemy]
#8326988 - 04/25/08 01:10 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a hint, most sciences require a post-doc after you get your PhD.
Your starting pay as a post doc (which is after you get your PhD) will be about 37K.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: badchad]
#8327015 - 04/25/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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He could still afford plenty of sheets with 37k
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: awesomebastard]
#8327049 - 04/25/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hate these topics
Did Owlsey/Owelsley/Owsley ever actually say how much he studied to make LSD?
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Chemy]
#8327104 - 04/25/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not after paying off 10-12 years of school.
I'm looking into the TMA-2 substance mentioned in the Fester's guide. I'd never heard of it before!
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: circularvortex]
#8327109 - 04/25/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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spinning spinning spinning spinning
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: circularvortex]
#8327111 - 04/25/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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circularvortex said: Not after paying off 10-12 years of school.
I'm looking into the TMA-2 substance mentioned in the Fester's guide. I'd never heard of it before!
If you follow any of his books you are in for a nightmare.
All I'm gonna say.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Chemy]
#8327118 - 04/25/08 01:58 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please, elaborate.
I haven't gotten too far into Fester's...mostly just the intro, I've been reading TMA-2 reports on erowid for a few minutes, though.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: circularvortex]
#8327128 - 04/25/08 02:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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You sound like you have a scientific background, go read as much as you can about the substance you are thinking about studying from the rhodium archive, or if you have weeks of free time you could sift through the hive archive, and you will be better off, much better.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Chemy]
#8327132 - 04/25/08 02:06 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not too interested in performing 'kitchen chemistry' these days. I don't have a reliable chemical supplier, so I would feel rather anxious throughout experimentation.
I guess the main point to take away from your message would be...don't trust Uncle Fester's guide?
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: circularvortex]
#8327154 - 04/25/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: RandomHero]
#8327157 - 04/25/08 02:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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RandomHero said: no and no
You'll never make LSD ..thats a fact
Now thats optimism for you!
Clearly untrue though or else LSD would not exist.
I'll be supportive and say stick at it and dose the world.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: coda]
#8327417 - 04/25/08 03:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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coda said:
I think the most expensive piece of equipment you need to buy is a chromatograph column to isolate the isomers and pull out what you need. The rest is pretty basic lab equipment.
thats bs man. all you need to make lsd is a bathtub.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: John Smith]
#8327437 - 04/25/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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...and some toothpaste and orange peels, other than that you're set.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Robo]
#8327445 - 04/25/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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its banana peels you noob. stop spreading your ignorance:)
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: John Smith]
#8331207 - 04/26/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Big Red and grapefruit people. Get yer facts straight
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: Entropymancer]
#8331370 - 04/26/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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just take a piece of paper and write LSD on it.
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Re: So how much school should i go through to learn how to make LSD. [Re: danknugz81]
#12269300 - 03/25/10 12:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seriosly, where do you get ET these days? And what is the proportion of ET to LSD i hear u need 3 - 4 times ET to 1 part pure LSD
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