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seep paralysis (your experiences with it)
    #8089463 - 03/01/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

hey everyone im not sure if im posting this into the right forum but id like to hear some of your experiences with this phenomenon be it positive/negative.
ill listen to anything.

i feel like i must be going insane over here with this happening to me very frequently. i hit the sack at 10pm tonight.. been awake since 12:12AM and am basically too scared to sleep untill day breaks and sometimes ill be sleeping with my lamp on :\

its getting so bad that its occuring (after a dream, usually messed up one) up to 3 times in a night. rarely, maybe 2-3 days a week ill have a peacefull sleep. just curious to hear of other peoples experiences with this before i lay mine down and sound like im completely fucking mental :frown:

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089474 - 03/01/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Have you tried lucid dreaming techniques? I hear they can be effective for coping with sleep paralysis issues like what you're experiencing.

My girlfriend gets these occasionally, but usually she has enough control to let out a low terrified moan, meaning I need to shake her awake.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089492 - 03/01/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

seep?


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089533 - 03/01/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I've had many SP experiences, most of them proved to be quite frightening and unenlightening.

I'll share one of the most memorable ones. I wake up with incredible fear. I try to grasp my girlfriend who is sleeping next to me but can't move. I try to scream but nothing comes out. I try kicking my girlfriend to wake her up so she could help me, I feel like I can move my leg a small amount but not enough to wake her. I start freaking out, trying to thrash and scream. It seems my girlfriend has awaken and there is an entity in the room, pulling me towards him. Colors swirl and fear grips my entire body. The entity has a hold of my face and is pulling me from my bed, my girlfriend conscious at this point and has a hold of my arm the entity drawing me from my bed. Complete panic consumes me. No other recollection of event past this point.

This episode was unlike any other, most of the time there is no hallucination accompaniment. Most of the time I just wake up unable to move, I've tried for minutes to fight it and come out of the horror, always to no avail. The only way for me to make it stop is to go back to sleep and wake up again. Also, avoiding working out within a few hours before going to bed has greatly reduced the number of occurrences.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Icelander]
    #8089565 - 03/01/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

no i havent. but ill try anything. this is getting ridiculous. ive moved back in with my mum recently after a break up and i too have to be shaken awake to snap out of it.
ill lay down some of my recent experiences, ill make them blunt and short.

in a dream i was sleeping in my bed, i heard a voice say "hello tony, WAKE UP!" i wake up paralyzed and i can feel hands (human hands, they feel like) being rubbed up and down my chest and stomach while im moaning and trying to move it vanishes once my mum runs into my room.

i start dosing off to sleep, i hear something right next to my ear say "MORNING!".. well that freaked the shit out of me and fucked up that nights sleep.

i fell asleep on the lounge room floor late one night on my stomach during a dvd marathon. i woke up paralyzed and saw someone standing next to me wearing blue jeans and black shoes. this person was lightly tapping me on my head and told me to "get up, tony". i tried and failed and fell back to sleep.

stayed over my ex girlfriends place one night watching dvds. fell asleep. dreamt i shot myself in the head and everything went black then white then i woke up grasping for air.

i wake up paralyzed, i see a blur that resembles the the shape of a large man sitting next to me on the bed with his hand on my chest telling me "its okay, this used to happen to me alot" i try screaming fuck off but i cant, i fall back asleep and wake up seconds later.

i feel really sick and exhausted after this happens to me

its not just that though. where ever iam living. its always been weird at night for me. i hear my name being called out, its a female voice. i hear dull breathing, sometimes its right next to my ear. sometimes hissing comming from the room and i get the coldest chills. i hear light tapping on my window, but nobody is ever outside. my exgirlfriend is a witness to these sounds/occurences and freaked out.

theres no case of schizophrenia in my family, not that iam aware off. im happy not depressed, i work and have a social life. but things get really weird at night time.

the only thing thats helped me so far with my sleep paralysis is smoking marijuana before i goto sleep.

its like i get stuck in it unless somebody is there to say my name or shake me. im literally shit scared to live by my self.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: JackthaTripper]
    #8089570 - 03/01/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Strangely enough I was in hypnagogic sleep mode when I was taking a nap yesterday and I kept feeling sleep paralysis come on but I was able to fight the weird feeling with concentration and completely letting go in whatever strange dream I found myself in. It strongly convinced me that there are no demons or aliens attacking us when this happens, but we'll see what happens next time. Maybe Jesus was protecting me.

In my experience, it is the fear of what is happening and attempting to fight the fear when the onset begins that gives sleep paralysis the potential to be so frightening. In my opinion the entities aren't real, they are mental projections of your fear of not being in control.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089573 - 03/01/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

sorry about the typo. i meant to spell "SLEEP"

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #8089583 - 03/01/08 12:13 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I used to have night terrors and be afraid of the dark when I was younger, sh0e. What helped me was praying to God and really believing in him and then they went away. It's worth giving a shot I think..


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089589 - 03/01/08 12:14 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

tonight i tried to experiment with SP but the fear took hold of me. i was just going to let myself go and not care what happened next. i failed i moaned

i let my mum know that if i do moan, please come into my room and shake me.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089596 - 03/01/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

my mum tells me if i do ever feel something in my room, to send it jesus's light. i sleep with roserybeads inside my pillow.

ill take your advice. thanks.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #8089606 - 03/01/08 12:18 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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In my experience, it is the fear of what is happening and attempting to fight the fear when the onset begins that gives sleep paralysis the potential to be so frightening. In my opinion the entities aren't real, they are mental projections of your fear of not being in control.




I have found this to be true as well. I have stopped trying to fight the experience when it occurs. Instead usually I'm just like damnit this sucks and then just try to fall back asleep, its more annoying then frightening now. The scariest times were felt as my mind and body resisted and fought the experience, which was always futile.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8089648 - 03/01/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

hey dude

i have this sometimes
maybe once every four months so i'm not as afflicted as yourself
i dont think ive ever REALLY fought it
sometimes i have a sense of trying to

normally though i let go, my mind has a sense it wont last, ive often got shit like im falling about the room, like a drunk, struggling to get up but being unable. the experience has the dimensions like i have a body, though its never clear. sometimes im just paralysed and still, sometimes with an unpleasant noise accompinament.

i think ive had the unwanted touch once
nasty shit

i think you have to make peace. in the experience, recognise but dont fight, if you can. hopefully they might lessen in regularity with acceptance.

would you want to share a little more of whats going on in your life and how you're feeling? maybe we could shed some light on it.

my experiences, there are always whispers of the underlaying cause. have faith you will prevail in peace.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Jackenobi]
    #8089690 - 03/01/08 12:40 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I've always experienced sleep paralysis episodes.

Seeing shadows, had things touch me and even breathe on me.  Very intense and very frightning.

Well, I met some Wiccans once, and I told them about my experiences hoping they had some insights.  They told me that I was having experiences with ghosts!  They gave me some tips on how to get rid of them, and I put it to work.  Results?  No more sleep paralysis/ghosts for a long time.

Many people experience this, and many do not.  Don;t listen to the people that don't experience it, they'll try to give your their 2 cents on a subject they really have no clue about. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I think there is a big terror that is happening on a mass scale.  Affecting the majority of the people on this planet, not realizing that they are all asleep in a waking-dream state, unaware of what the true reality has for us.

It's called sheep paralysis.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Jackenobi]
    #8089748 - 03/01/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

wow sounds really interesting.

my personal belief is it sounds like you're a natural at remembering OBEs, and it sounds like you have a being interested in you, probably attempting to show you something or guide you while out of body.

I'll put OBE stuff aside for a moment and say that you're getting carried away with yourself letting the sleep paralysis scare you, its completely normal, its its pretty easy to learn not to fear it. just keep your wits and don't let the panic get a foothold. if its bothering you alot i think you should be all the more determined to conquer your fear of it.

back on the topic of your "hypnogenic visions". i think you're very lucky to experience such things so often.
I have encoutered several entities in similar states (OBE, hypnogogia, deep trance). I still respond with fear alot, i try and overcome my fear by attempting to communicate with whatever is there . questions like "who are you" "why are you here" and so on really help get my mind focused and working again.
most of the things i've run into have been benign, but i have also run into several negative things. i learned over time that fear is pretty counter-productive, but if you really want the things to leave you alone anger works pretty good.

this is going to sound really weird, but at the suggestion of one of my friends, in lucid dreams i learned to fight anything that was hostile to me. this resulted in my having alot of dreams teaching me how to dream fight, and more importantly to not fear anything in my dreams. alot of this stuff carried into my contact with OBE entities.

although i still end up fighting occasionally, i eventually learned a better technique though. if you can do it once, you can learn to teleport or as i call it "phase out" of whatever dream or mental place you're in... i'm describing it based on the feeling of it. it seems like different entities reside at different dream "locations" which due to a poor vocabulary for this sort of thing i'm going to say could also be described as different entities exsist at different mental "frequencies".
once you figure out how to do it, it becomes very easy to "escape" from anything bothering you in dreams (or OBEs or sleep paralysis) by shifting your mind to a completely different state (which i think of as "changing locations").

honestly though i only experience stuff like you're talking about 2 dozen times a year, so i'm wondering how much you could discover and experience if you gain control over it. There are many beautiful, wild and spiritual experiences available to you with that sleep paralysis as a starting point.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8090659 - 03/01/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

The first time this happened to me I was around 16 and it was very scary. It was just like people describe. I was fully conscious but couldn't move or make sounds no matter how hard I tried.

My first thought was that I somehow was in a coma and my worry was not being able to wake from it even when someone discovers me unresponsive. The feeling is a bit claustrophobic.

I struggled against the paralysis and tried to make noise and move to wake myself up which eventually worked, to my great relief. Concentrating on making a noise usually works best if your goal is to wake up.

The next few times it happened I took advantage of it rather than let it scare me. Instead of trying to wake up, I guided things toward a lucent dream. At that point the lucid dream took all my attention and I forgot that it all started with scary sleep paralysis.

I've had this happen many times since then and now I look forward to it.

Why does it scare you?


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Diploid]
    #8091411 - 03/01/08 08:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i used to have them multiple times a night for months. the entities i dont believe to be real, though i did in the begining.

after a while i began using the sp state as a springboard towards astral travel and lucid dreaming. its as simple as maintaining awarness and projecting intent whilst remaining relaxed.

i understand fear well. i too have felt it, but it can be an unhealthy trap to fall into. make it a point not to be afraid. be a passive observer.

also iv got a question for all who regularly have sp. have you made any connections as far as what specifically causes it? for me it was my sleep schedule out of whack (working the night shift) and also this was a time when i was really introverted. mentally tripping all the time, and questioning and exploring the idea of conciousness and space, ect.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8091778 - 03/01/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

it has only happened to me once in my whole life and this occured a few months ago. i was sleeping, then i woke up in the middle of the night and became aware that i was paralized. the "move" comand simply didn't work. at first it was scary but then i quickly thought "oh this is sleep paralysis, so this is what it's like" and then i thought "am i breathing?" and when i realized that i was indeed breathing, i was no longer frightened and i relaxed. soon after that i was able to move again. i then went back to sleep and forgot about the whole experience until about a week later when something reminded me of it.

so i have very limited experience with this phenomemon but my advice is to just relax and give in to it. almost as soon as i did that, i regained the ability to move.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: porcupine]
    #8092079 - 03/01/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I don't believe any of you.:thumbdown:

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8092111 - 03/01/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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I don't believe any of you.:thumbdown:



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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8092317 - 03/02/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I would get this every single night for years. I will say it has "A LOT" to do with fear be it of your choosing, fear to sleep or anxiety itself. The edge of conscious awareness being held onto by fear, i slip in and out until i am conscious but paralyzed.

I used to fight it straining every muscle in my body trying to move, be it just a finger at first, or maybe jus my foot, trying to throw the lamp i know is on the desk next to me, all in a useless attempt. As i would simply snap out of it randomly. I always feared for girlfriends that i may somehow really hurt them if i managed to move.

The only thing that ever got me out of it was relaxing and breathing deep, then trying to slowly open my eyes every few minutes, or simply try an go back to sleep.

To prevent it from happening what i believe to have stopped it nearly completely is i have a tall oscillating fan that i blast right at my head at night all year long. the blowing of the air and motion of the fan itself grounds me, also as lame as it may be leave a light on in the hall. It is easier to tell you are awake if it is bright. Hell sleep with the light on. Other then that you need to sort out your anxiety as well for it to go away.

I havent had this happen in two years and had it for many more then that.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8099648 - 03/03/08 09:26 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

After tring to lucid dream using the WILD technique I can fall into sleep paralysis whenever I want. Not that I want to, but I don't really mind it. When you're wigggling yourself out of it, if feels REALLY good though.

Edit: To those of you who would like to be able to get out of the sensation; you have to move smaller muscles first. Work on your toes and fingers, and then arms and legs.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8100042 - 03/03/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Sleep paralysis used to freak out my shit. I realized that when my sleep schedule was somewhat normal and I wasn't stressed that it would happen to me. But it used to happend like 3 nights a week or so.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Rebirtha]
    #8106121 - 03/05/08 01:15 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Sleep Paralysis, Hynogogia (I know I spelled it wrong), thats something that happens to me several times a month.

Sometimes it will be more then once a week but its generally I will fall into that void while genuinely trying to sleep. I will shake my leg till I wake up (shaking my leg always works for me, though sometimes its faulty), and once I wake up, I usually plummet right back to sleep. This happen to anyone else? When your first shaking out of it and waking, falling back unconscious is hard to fight.

But now its extremely lucid. once i can get control of it, you can have lots of fun. Play music in your head, have conversations with all the voices, provoke sensations, think to yourself

Used to be like I would hear footsteps, the door swinging open, people screaming my name, a fire alarm, police car, whatever. It would have me panicing and shaking as hard as I could to wake up, but over years I have gotten used to it. It is undeniably tense, when it happens, but manageable.


Oh and, I thought I should mention. When I go 2-3 weeks without smoking marijuana- it tends to happen alot more frequently.

Also mid afternoon naps, right after school, used to always trigger it when it first began few years back.



im also glad to see that its not such an uncommon thing

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Fredrock]
    #8107627 - 03/05/08 07:07 PM (16 years, 16 days ago)

You know I've been experiencing something along these lines recently, but I don't think I would have described it as "sleep paralysis". Maybe it isn't.

I usually get a pretty good nights sleep, a good 8 hours. But right when I first wake up, I'll wake up out of a dream, crack my eyes open and see that I'm in my room. Now this is when I find that difficulty fighting off the "falling back into unconsciousness" that you describe. At first I realize I've awoken, but my mind is still in the "dream state". I'll close my eyes again just for a second and ZIP its like I'm back in the dream again. Only now I feel more like I'm watching a movie or writing a novel in my head. It doesn't feel like i'm the character, but like i'm watching someone else. A while later i'll open my eyes again, to see that 10 or 15 minutes have passed but to me it felt like I only closed my eye lids for a few seconds. Sometimes this will go on with me for a few hours, and when I lapse back into unconsciousness sometimes the "movie" or "track" changes, and i'm seeing something completely different.

All the while I feel like I could open my eyes and get out of bed If i wanted to. I know i'm almost awake, but i'm just asleep enough where I can either choose to keep sleeping or wake up. Does that sound a little nuts or what?


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: BrainChemistry]
    #8127294 - 03/10/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

I had an episode of sleep paralysis last night.  After reading some of your posts I decided to try a few things.  First I tried moving some small extremities, I started with moving my finger.  After a few attempts it worked! (although it only moved a half an inch at the most)  I tried to work up to moving my arm but failed.  Since moving my arms didn't work I figured I had no chance of waking myself up so I decided to try another technique discussed in this thread.  I wanted to enter a lucid dream state, so I concentrated really hard on euphoria and was able to create an ecstatic ecstasy like experience.  Waves of pleasure pulsated through my entire body, it was really nice but only lasted maybe a minute.  Unfortunately I was unable to visualize a world of my choosing as described by some lucid dreamers, I actually didn't see much of anything, just some geometric patterns and colors.  I must have exited this state because all I remember past this was other dreams in which I seemed to have little or no control over.  BTW I think this episode was brought on because I was unable to to go to sleep until about 4:30am due to the fact I was writting a paper.  Next time I will try again to create an artificial dream state or at the least another hedonistic ecstasy feeling :grin:.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8128876 - 03/10/08 07:33 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

Happens to me when im totally exhausted and have quite a bit of caffeine right before falling asleep. I dont like it, and i agree with trying to fight it makes it worse.

Its weird finally finding out there's actually a definition to what that was randomly happening to me over the years being it OBE's/Sleep paralysis... whatever. I always just thought it was my body resisting switching itself to the "idle" position quick enough. Resulting in me getting stuck in the middle of sleep and awake, not being able to move.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: large_dose]
    #8130888 - 03/11/08 08:18 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

I've jolted awake and screamed at the op of my lungs "Everything is the same!" once after sleep paralysis. And once I had to lay in bed and state at the colorful dragon entity coming through a portal at the foot of my bed during sleep paralysis... I swear DMT equals sleep... but I can't be too sure. All I know is YIKES!


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8130987 - 03/11/08 09:02 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

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Anyway, I think there is a big terror that is happening on a mass scale. Affecting the majority of the people on this planet, not realizing that they are all asleep in a waking-dream state, unaware of what the true reality has for us.

It's called sheep paralysis.




Sorry, this cracked me up!

I have had sleep paralysis about 3 times, I couldn't work out what was happening. I just woke up and my body was seized up and it felt like I was fitting is the best I can describe it. My head felt like it was going to explode and I seriously thought I was dying. Tried to shout out to call my dad but nothing came out. Eventually subsided and I went back to sleep but it was very strange indeed..


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: nickspurs]
    #8137364 - 03/12/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 10 days ago)

I've been down this road before.

For me, it's been a relatively new phenomenon. It's only occurred in the past 2 years or so.

The first time I ever experienced it, was at a particularly weird point in my life. You see, only about a month or so prior to this, I had a horribly bad lsd trip in which I was convinced I met the devil himself. This was all coupled with an impending rainstorm that had the clouds swirling into the forms of pentagrams. Shortly thereafter, I saw a type of grey I had not seen since I had an OBE as a child. Not exactly the religious and spiritual breakthrough everyone hopes for, but I digress...

Anyways, the first episode was coupled with a feeling of being electricuted. It was horribly painful, unlike any other dream I've ever felt before. We are talking REAL pain, like the kind from a taser or a bad episode with an electrical fence. When I tried to awake, I found myself completely unable to move. My body was physically dead, but my mind was active. I could remember trying to move, trying to fight off the sleep, but it was a losing battle and I eventually drifted away.

The next couple of times were in a domicile that was always doing weird shit to my brother and I. You see, this neighborhood had been built upon an old graveyard. The developers had gradually bought out this land over time and built over it, piece by piece. This house was somewhat unnerving. We'd hear footsteps upstairs, downstairs, see slight apparitions in the windows, you know standard paranoid stoner crap.

What was crazy were the times when I'd feel like I was suffocating and I'd awake at the last minute. I was facing up and there was nothing even close to my head or neck. Shit was crazy. This coupled with bad dreams is enough to make one question your sanity....until I spoke with an actual shaman.

This shaman was actual of Oriental descent, but had studied everywhere. I spoke to him about the coinciding events in my life. Everything was discussed, my dreams, my experiences, my hallucinations, my astrological signs, and my beliefs. He didn't give me that bullshit "Everything is meant to be" that so many cop out on. No this man spoke in a different tone.

He told me that when we dream, we occasionally enter what he calls the World of Dreams. This is a place where we can unlock details into our lives. Many are able to see into the future in their dreams. They will have details about people that are close to us, events that coincide with us, even clues as to what we are supposed to do. We can only interpret them for ourselves, as we are guarded as to what we actually see believe and do.

The sleep paralysis he said, was due to bad entities. In alot of places, there are people of all religious descents living very closely together. He said this is not always a good thing. One wrong could affect many people. He told me to burn incense or sage and try to distance myself from the people that affect my sanity in a negative way. We all have those fools.

I've followed his advice for the past 6 months and WHAM. No sleep paralysis and a general good feeling of health. This also has to do with not being stuck in a rut. But burn that incense FOOL.

I have also found having a gun close to where you sleep is always good practice. Never know when those ninja ghosts are gonna roll through

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Wavelength]
    #8146444 - 03/14/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I've had experiences with this as a child. and frankly for the developing years i thought i was just abducted by aliens. it kind of disappointed me to learn that it was just sleep paralysis. haha. i think i'll just stick to the alien story.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8146505 - 03/14/08 03:49 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

It is strange though how sleep paralysis can lead to OBEs. I have felt that electrical fence thing but I went through it and popped out of my body into the astral plane. It was creepy as hell though, it makes me think that sleep paralysis and OBEs is not a healthy thing for the body or mind, but there are many ways to interpret it.

I personally don't believe it is entities - I think it has more to do with your body falling asleep too fast to your mind, or something to that effect. By the way, scientists can induce OBEs in a lab now by stimulating a certain part of the brain. I don't know if that means anything.. OBEs are still incredibly strange.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
    #8146980 - 03/14/08 06:18 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

You are all very lucky! I sincerely wish I had sleep paralysis.

Why? because sleep paralysis is the ideal state from which to achieve an out of body experience. Once you become aware of being paralyzed in this way, simply relax and envision yourself floating upwards out of your body. Believe me, this will relieve your fear!


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #8147136 - 03/14/08 07:05 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

It is strange though how sleep paralysis can lead to OBEs.

OBEs are imaginary and the propensity for mystic heads to immediately assign to an OBE anything weird that happens when they're asleep is very amusing.

OBEs have never been confirmed even though people have been claiming to have OBEs for centuries, and science heads have been trying to confirm them for decades.

If there was anything real to OBEs, someone claiming to have them would have been able to conclusively demonstrate them by now by telling a researcher what page number the test phone book in the next room is opened to or by describing the test object on the roof of the building the person claiming OBEs says they hover over.

What's actually found during these tests is that the person who claims OBEs never even comes close to doing what they say they can do. It's a simple thing to test that anyone who REALLY DOES astral project should be able to pass, but no one ever has.

What's more, neurological science has identified the region of the brain responsible for the OBE illusion and can even induce a full blown (but of course, imaginary) OBE on demand.

There is a region in the brain called the Angular Gyrus (AG). It's located in the parietal lobe (top-back) of the brain near where the sense of balance is processed. The AG is larger in hominids than in other primates. It's involved in language processing and particularly in the comprehension of metaphors.

The relationship to OBEs was first found while treating a woman for epilepsy in the 1990s. To localize the source of the patient's seizures, doctors at the University Hospitals of Geneva and Lausanne in Switzerland implanted electrodes in the patient's brain. With the patient awake and her skull opened, they probed her brain with the electrodes to map the pathology and try to cure her.

When they probed inside her AG, she reported sensations including "sinking into the bed", "falling from a height", "seeing myself lying in bed from above", "floating", and all the other sensations people who claim OBEs report.

It's believed that electrical stimulation of the AG causes these sensations because it disrupts the ability of the brain to process and integrate the sense of touch and the signals from the semi-circular structures in the inner ear used for balance.

It's important to realize that this effect was repeatable and has since been confirmed in other people. A full blown OBE can be deliberately induced by simply stimulating a person's AG, but whether the OBE occurs naturally or is medically induced, it remains the case that no one can describe the test object in the next room.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Diploid]
    #8147161 - 03/14/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

I want one of those helmets with the magnetic field generating solenoids.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8147180 - 03/14/08 07:16 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8147224 - 03/14/08 07:30 PM (16 years, 8 days ago)

Often these turned out to be perinatal (birth) experiences.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: burgatory]
    #8147374 - 03/14/08 08:19 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Funny, the electric fence thing never bothered me... I actually adjusted to it very quickly and it reminded me of Salvia the last time I've had it, but I would still have been tripping the shit out because I had been like "WTF? oh shit not again ... help, damn it! I can't move and I can't go back to sleep either!"... and it was the menevolant force in front of me and around me that would have freaked me out the most.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: allisthesame]
    #8147700 - 03/14/08 09:50 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

There are both entities which are created by the mind and real spirits.

for example, me and my friend were having sex one day, after talking about her becoming sleep paralysised alot, by this girl. I told her i had many experiences with her and i was able to recognize after a while, what dreams she was in which she attempted to sleep paralysis me, to take hold of my emotional vigor and use it for whatever purposes. Well, during sex, she said "YOu will never be able to come between us to the ghost"

Fast forward two days later and no this isnt a movie - i find a bloody blue thong inside of the dresser. I asked "hey what happen with this one" She looked dumbfounded. "Its not yours" She was overcome by shock " Noo...but umm...." "What?" "I kind of told the spirit who came in my dreams saying she was trying to come between us, that she wouldnt be able to do this"

You get paralyzed when you are stressed, fearful or emotionally weak. I have, since the 5 th encounter with her, been able to get myself out of sleep paralysis, by using and raising my emotions to the top of my head....maybe this will work...It is pure imagination and focus on that imagination...literally imagine energy coming from your penis or vagina, up to the top of your head and focus on it, swaying it and exploding it in which ever way the feelings come from. Another thing is that i can actually do this in real life, and i have been using it to relieve peoples head aches, effectivly(inspired by a tv show).

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And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8148369 - 03/15/08 02:35 AM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Sleep paralysis used to suck so bad when I was a kid. I would have issues with it every night, seeing demons, and people standing in my doorway, waking up speaking "languages" that didn't even sound real...just scary shit in general. Everyone has tried to tell me that my eyes aren't open, and its all just a dream but Ive gotten up gone in the other room, and watched a movie that was on and been able to describe it perfectly.

It may all be in my head, but if that is the case our minds are capable of more than I understand. In the past few years, Ive realized that the terrifying images that appear as real as anything else in life can be brought up simply by being afraid of the situation. If I just relax, visualize a rope coming up from my chest and mentally pull myself up I can induce some really nice OBE/lucid dreams.

Over all while it terrified me all through my childhood, I'm really glad its something I've been able to experience and wouldn't give it up for anything.

Here is a really good book on inducing lucid dreaming, I highly recommend it.

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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8149608 - 03/15/08 01:57 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

the best way I have found to wake myself up if I just don't feel like dealing with it is to hum.

Same here. I try to make some sound and that immediately wakes me up. It's hard to tell the difference sometimes between dreaming that you're humming and actually humming.

Sometimes during the paralysis when I'm aware of what's happening and intentionally trying to wake myself up, I become convinced that I'm making sounds and I wonder why it's not waking me up. Then if I keep trying, at some point I actually DO make a sound (which I can actually feel in my throat), which wakes me up and lets me realize that all the prior sounds were imagined, even though I could swear I was actually humming. I know the difference once I wake up because the sensation of vibration in my throat isn't there during the imagined humming.

Humans are capable of a lot of self-deception, and more so when they're half-asleep. They convince themselves that imaginary things are actually happening (like alien abductions and OBEs).


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #8149812 - 03/15/08 02:41 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

I have, but only once in childhood and once at 13 years old. It literally sparked me into researching it, and eventually discovering the entire occult culture based around astral projection. It totally gave me something to work with in a spiritual sense, because I was at a point in my life where Catholicism (and Christianity, and all organized religions, as a whole) had failed me greatly.

I began to realize that all of what I experience and who I am is within me... and that's all that matters. The power comes from within. I also realized Nature's power over my life.

The best thing to do when afflicted with reoccurring episodes of sleep paralysis, is to relax. Realize that nothing is wrong - realize that you are on the edge of an amazing experience not of this world, and that if you can gain control of the endless amount of etheric energy being fueled by your body and consciousness, you can take leaps and bounds in understanding yourself and the way you perceive reality. The clarity achieved by maintaining a routine of quieting the mind, and existing as pure awareness in a timeless dimension, is unbridled.


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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: manyc]
    #8155043 - 03/16/08 08:56 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

just had one of these last night

it started when something from below my bed grabbed my arm.  i started freaking out as i thought this was happening in the waking state, but soon realized i was dreaming and tried to relax and not fight it.  i popped out of my body, grabbed the arm, threw the alien to the other side of the room and woke up :grin:  what a trip!

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