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seep paralysis (your experiences with it)
#8089463 - 03/01/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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hey everyone im not sure if im posting this into the right forum but id like to hear some of your experiences with this phenomenon be it positive/negative. ill listen to anything.
i feel like i must be going insane over here with this happening to me very frequently. i hit the sack at 10pm tonight.. been awake since 12:12AM and am basically too scared to sleep untill day breaks and sometimes ill be sleeping with my lamp on :\
its getting so bad that its occuring (after a dream, usually messed up one) up to 3 times in a night. rarely, maybe 2-3 days a week ill have a peacefull sleep. just curious to hear of other peoples experiences with this before i lay mine down and sound like im completely fucking mental
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089474 - 03/01/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Have you tried lucid dreaming techniques? I hear they can be effective for coping with sleep paralysis issues like what you're experiencing.
My girlfriend gets these occasionally, but usually she has enough control to let out a low terrified moan, meaning I need to shake her awake.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089492 - 03/01/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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seep?
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089533 - 03/01/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I've had many SP experiences, most of them proved to be quite frightening and unenlightening.
I'll share one of the most memorable ones. I wake up with incredible fear. I try to grasp my girlfriend who is sleeping next to me but can't move. I try to scream but nothing comes out. I try kicking my girlfriend to wake her up so she could help me, I feel like I can move my leg a small amount but not enough to wake her. I start freaking out, trying to thrash and scream. It seems my girlfriend has awaken and there is an entity in the room, pulling me towards him. Colors swirl and fear grips my entire body. The entity has a hold of my face and is pulling me from my bed, my girlfriend conscious at this point and has a hold of my arm the entity drawing me from my bed. Complete panic consumes me. No other recollection of event past this point.
This episode was unlike any other, most of the time there is no hallucination accompaniment. Most of the time I just wake up unable to move, I've tried for minutes to fight it and come out of the horror, always to no avail. The only way for me to make it stop is to go back to sleep and wake up again. Also, avoiding working out within a few hours before going to bed has greatly reduced the number of occurrences.
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Edited by JackthaTripper (03/01/08 12:45 PM)
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Icelander]
#8089565 - 03/01/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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no i havent. but ill try anything. this is getting ridiculous. ive moved back in with my mum recently after a break up and i too have to be shaken awake to snap out of it. ill lay down some of my recent experiences, ill make them blunt and short.
in a dream i was sleeping in my bed, i heard a voice say "hello tony, WAKE UP!" i wake up paralyzed and i can feel hands (human hands, they feel like) being rubbed up and down my chest and stomach while im moaning and trying to move it vanishes once my mum runs into my room.
i start dosing off to sleep, i hear something right next to my ear say "MORNING!".. well that freaked the shit out of me and fucked up that nights sleep.
i fell asleep on the lounge room floor late one night on my stomach during a dvd marathon. i woke up paralyzed and saw someone standing next to me wearing blue jeans and black shoes. this person was lightly tapping me on my head and told me to "get up, tony". i tried and failed and fell back to sleep.
stayed over my ex girlfriends place one night watching dvds. fell asleep. dreamt i shot myself in the head and everything went black then white then i woke up grasping for air.
i wake up paralyzed, i see a blur that resembles the the shape of a large man sitting next to me on the bed with his hand on my chest telling me "its okay, this used to happen to me alot" i try screaming fuck off but i cant, i fall back asleep and wake up seconds later.
i feel really sick and exhausted after this happens to me
its not just that though. where ever iam living. its always been weird at night for me. i hear my name being called out, its a female voice. i hear dull breathing, sometimes its right next to my ear. sometimes hissing comming from the room and i get the coldest chills. i hear light tapping on my window, but nobody is ever outside. my exgirlfriend is a witness to these sounds/occurences and freaked out.
theres no case of schizophrenia in my family, not that iam aware off. im happy not depressed, i work and have a social life. but things get really weird at night time.
the only thing thats helped me so far with my sleep paralysis is smoking marijuana before i goto sleep.
its like i get stuck in it unless somebody is there to say my name or shake me. im literally shit scared to live by my self.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: JackthaTripper]
#8089570 - 03/01/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Strangely enough I was in hypnagogic sleep mode when I was taking a nap yesterday and I kept feeling sleep paralysis come on but I was able to fight the weird feeling with concentration and completely letting go in whatever strange dream I found myself in. It strongly convinced me that there are no demons or aliens attacking us when this happens, but we'll see what happens next time. Maybe Jesus was protecting me.
In my experience, it is the fear of what is happening and attempting to fight the fear when the onset begins that gives sleep paralysis the potential to be so frightening. In my opinion the entities aren't real, they are mental projections of your fear of not being in control.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089573 - 03/01/08 12:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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sorry about the typo. i meant to spell "SLEEP"
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#8089583 - 03/01/08 12:13 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I used to have night terrors and be afraid of the dark when I was younger, sh0e. What helped me was praying to God and really believing in him and then they went away. It's worth giving a shot I think..
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089589 - 03/01/08 12:14 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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tonight i tried to experiment with SP but the fear took hold of me. i was just going to let myself go and not care what happened next. i failed i moaned
i let my mum know that if i do moan, please come into my room and shake me.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089596 - 03/01/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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my mum tells me if i do ever feel something in my room, to send it jesus's light. i sleep with roserybeads inside my pillow.
ill take your advice. thanks.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#8089606 - 03/01/08 12:18 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: In my experience, it is the fear of what is happening and attempting to fight the fear when the onset begins that gives sleep paralysis the potential to be so frightening. In my opinion the entities aren't real, they are mental projections of your fear of not being in control.
I have found this to be true as well. I have stopped trying to fight the experience when it occurs. Instead usually I'm just like damnit this sucks and then just try to fall back asleep, its more annoying then frightening now. The scariest times were felt as my mind and body resisted and fought the experience, which was always futile.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8089648 - 03/01/08 12:31 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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hey dude
i have this sometimes maybe once every four months so i'm not as afflicted as yourself i dont think ive ever REALLY fought it sometimes i have a sense of trying to
normally though i let go, my mind has a sense it wont last, ive often got shit like im falling about the room, like a drunk, struggling to get up but being unable. the experience has the dimensions like i have a body, though its never clear. sometimes im just paralysed and still, sometimes with an unpleasant noise accompinament.
i think ive had the unwanted touch once nasty shit
i think you have to make peace. in the experience, recognise but dont fight, if you can. hopefully they might lessen in regularity with acceptance.
would you want to share a little more of whats going on in your life and how you're feeling? maybe we could shed some light on it.
my experiences, there are always whispers of the underlaying cause. have faith you will prevail in peace.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Jackenobi]
#8089690 - 03/01/08 12:40 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I've always experienced sleep paralysis episodes.
Seeing shadows, had things touch me and even breathe on me. Very intense and very frightning.
Well, I met some Wiccans once, and I told them about my experiences hoping they had some insights. They told me that I was having experiences with ghosts! They gave me some tips on how to get rid of them, and I put it to work. Results? No more sleep paralysis/ghosts for a long time.
Many people experience this, and many do not. Don;t listen to the people that don't experience it, they'll try to give your their 2 cents on a subject they really have no clue about.
Anyway, I think there is a big terror that is happening on a mass scale. Affecting the majority of the people on this planet, not realizing that they are all asleep in a waking-dream state, unaware of what the true reality has for us.
It's called sheep paralysis.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Jackenobi]
#8089748 - 03/01/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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wow sounds really interesting.
my personal belief is it sounds like you're a natural at remembering OBEs, and it sounds like you have a being interested in you, probably attempting to show you something or guide you while out of body.
I'll put OBE stuff aside for a moment and say that you're getting carried away with yourself letting the sleep paralysis scare you, its completely normal, its its pretty easy to learn not to fear it. just keep your wits and don't let the panic get a foothold. if its bothering you alot i think you should be all the more determined to conquer your fear of it.
back on the topic of your "hypnogenic visions". i think you're very lucky to experience such things so often. I have encoutered several entities in similar states (OBE, hypnogogia, deep trance). I still respond with fear alot, i try and overcome my fear by attempting to communicate with whatever is there . questions like "who are you" "why are you here" and so on really help get my mind focused and working again. most of the things i've run into have been benign, but i have also run into several negative things. i learned over time that fear is pretty counter-productive, but if you really want the things to leave you alone anger works pretty good.
this is going to sound really weird, but at the suggestion of one of my friends, in lucid dreams i learned to fight anything that was hostile to me. this resulted in my having alot of dreams teaching me how to dream fight, and more importantly to not fear anything in my dreams. alot of this stuff carried into my contact with OBE entities.
although i still end up fighting occasionally, i eventually learned a better technique though. if you can do it once, you can learn to teleport or as i call it "phase out" of whatever dream or mental place you're in... i'm describing it based on the feeling of it. it seems like different entities reside at different dream "locations" which due to a poor vocabulary for this sort of thing i'm going to say could also be described as different entities exsist at different mental "frequencies". once you figure out how to do it, it becomes very easy to "escape" from anything bothering you in dreams (or OBEs or sleep paralysis) by shifting your mind to a completely different state (which i think of as "changing locations").
honestly though i only experience stuff like you're talking about 2 dozen times a year, so i'm wondering how much you could discover and experience if you gain control over it. There are many beautiful, wild and spiritual experiences available to you with that sleep paralysis as a starting point.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8090659 - 03/01/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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The first time this happened to me I was around 16 and it was very scary. It was just like people describe. I was fully conscious but couldn't move or make sounds no matter how hard I tried.
My first thought was that I somehow was in a coma and my worry was not being able to wake from it even when someone discovers me unresponsive. The feeling is a bit claustrophobic.
I struggled against the paralysis and tried to make noise and move to wake myself up which eventually worked, to my great relief. Concentrating on making a noise usually works best if your goal is to wake up.
The next few times it happened I took advantage of it rather than let it scare me. Instead of trying to wake up, I guided things toward a lucent dream. At that point the lucid dream took all my attention and I forgot that it all started with scary sleep paralysis.
I've had this happen many times since then and now I look forward to it.
Why does it scare you?
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: Diploid]
#8091411 - 03/01/08 08:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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i used to have them multiple times a night for months. the entities i dont believe to be real, though i did in the begining.
after a while i began using the sp state as a springboard towards astral travel and lucid dreaming. its as simple as maintaining awarness and projecting intent whilst remaining relaxed.
i understand fear well. i too have felt it, but it can be an unhealthy trap to fall into. make it a point not to be afraid. be a passive observer.
also iv got a question for all who regularly have sp. have you made any connections as far as what specifically causes it? for me it was my sleep schedule out of whack (working the night shift) and also this was a time when i was really introverted. mentally tripping all the time, and questioning and exploring the idea of conciousness and space, ect.
Edited by Archemetis (03/01/08 08:08 PM)
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8091778 - 03/01/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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it has only happened to me once in my whole life and this occured a few months ago. i was sleeping, then i woke up in the middle of the night and became aware that i was paralized. the "move" comand simply didn't work. at first it was scary but then i quickly thought "oh this is sleep paralysis, so this is what it's like" and then i thought "am i breathing?" and when i realized that i was indeed breathing, i was no longer frightened and i relaxed. soon after that i was able to move again. i then went back to sleep and forgot about the whole experience until about a week later when something reminded me of it.
so i have very limited experience with this phenomemon but my advice is to just relax and give in to it. almost as soon as i did that, i regained the ability to move.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: porcupine]
#8092079 - 03/01/08 11:17 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I don't believe any of you.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: backfromthedead]
#8092111 - 03/01/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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backfromthedead said: I don't believe any of you.
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Re: seep paralysis (your experiences with it) [Re: sh0e]
#8092317 - 03/02/08 12:09 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I would get this every single night for years. I will say it has "A LOT" to do with fear be it of your choosing, fear to sleep or anxiety itself. The edge of conscious awareness being held onto by fear, i slip in and out until i am conscious but paralyzed.
I used to fight it straining every muscle in my body trying to move, be it just a finger at first, or maybe jus my foot, trying to throw the lamp i know is on the desk next to me, all in a useless attempt. As i would simply snap out of it randomly. I always feared for girlfriends that i may somehow really hurt them if i managed to move.
The only thing that ever got me out of it was relaxing and breathing deep, then trying to slowly open my eyes every few minutes, or simply try an go back to sleep.
To prevent it from happening what i believe to have stopped it nearly completely is i have a tall oscillating fan that i blast right at my head at night all year long. the blowing of the air and motion of the fan itself grounds me, also as lame as it may be leave a light on in the hall. It is easier to tell you are awake if it is bright. Hell sleep with the light on. Other then that you need to sort out your anxiety as well for it to go away.
I havent had this happen in two years and had it for many more then that.
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