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Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers
    #8079103 - 02/27/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

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Raising the temperature increases the rate of oxydation... and it's exponential so 100F is a lot worse than 90F. Don't use heat in your dehydrator. They dry just about as fast at room temp anyway. If you don't believe that chemical reaction rates increase exponentially with temperature, well, nothing i tell you is gonna convince you. The rate at which oxitation happens increases very quickly with temperature. Why are you in such a hurry to dry your shrooms an extra day early and risk losing some of the chilly,
it's stoopid Let them dry naturally and they'll thank you for it.




Have you guys noticed a decrease in potency when you use a food dehydrator? This guy supposedly KNOWS what he's talking about. Your thoughts?

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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8079161 - 02/27/08 09:07 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

I think theres threads on this already check out the search

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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: implee]
    #8079217 - 02/27/08 09:14 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

get one that you can set to 95 and goto town

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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: blood4blood]
    #8079456 - 02/27/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 7 days ago)

Come on dumbfounded, you have been here long enough to know the answer.
Lets just say that heat did hurt them while drying. Those of us who need a dehydrator to dry mushrooms have more than enough to not give a shit about a .0001 loss in potentcy.

you guys ever have mushroom tea??? Hot water will burn your mouth at 150-160 degrees depending on how much of a pussy you are, 170 will make a blister.
Now how hot is your tea??? at least 180 while you are making it. You guys make some tea out of an 1/8th of cubes and tell me if they loss some potentcy.
I think not


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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: tahoe]
    #8080501 - 02/28/08 07:06 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

dude, tea will fuc you up like right now. i had some last weekend and 10 mins after i drank it i was on the floor in africa. thanks leonard cohen!

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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: dumbfounded1600] * 1
    #8080537 - 02/28/08 07:34 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

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dumbfounded1600 said:
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Raising the temperature increases the rate of oxydation... and it's exponential so 100F is a lot worse than 90F. Don't use heat in your dehydrator. They dry just about as fast at room temp anyway. If you don't believe that chemical reaction rates increase exponentially with temperature, well, nothing i tell you is gonna convince you. The rate at which oxitation happens increases very quickly with temperature. Why are you in such a hurry to dry your shrooms an extra day early and risk losing some of the chilly,
it's stoopid Let them dry naturally and they'll thank you for it.




Have you guys noticed a decrease in potency when you use a food dehydrator? This guy supposedly KNOWS what he's talking about. Your thoughts?




Never believe a guy that says something is "stoopid". :smirk: Of course oxidation is increased by heat. Fire is an example of extremely rapid oxidation. Oxidation is also caused by simple exposure to air. So, are you going to expose your shrooms to air for days, or use a dehydrator with minor heat and dry them out in hours? Personally I don't notice any difference in potency drying at temperatures up to 155F and I've dried a lot of shrooms.

This argument has been going on for years and probably will continue for years. The problem is that people will blame their dehydrator for potency loss when it in fact it was due to a weak batch of shrooms or poor storage.

For all of you noobs that don't believe anything unless RR or Agar say it, go search Agar's posts. He uses a dehydrator! Please stop beating this dead horse.


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Re: Dehydrator Loss In Potency? Experienced Trippers [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #8080622 - 02/28/08 08:21 AM (16 years, 6 days ago)

my thoughts are that you should use that search that you have in your signature!~

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For all of you noobs that don't believe anything unless RR or Agar say it, go search Agar's posts. He uses a dehydrator! Please stop beating this dead horse.





I agree!~


this subject has been beat to death over the years...

and the horse is a bloody pulp by now!~


the loss of potency is minimal from using a food dehydrator.


and like Tahoe said...

alot of people make Tea and it works just fine.


I used to go pick Liberty caps in the late 70's...

and we would make Shroom Tea in a large pot of boiling water...

and have large Tea Parties for about 30 people.


and we used to put them into our spagetti sauce and cook them...

and we put them onto our pizza's and cook them...

no problem at all.



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