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PO Tyvek is breathable?
    #8072579 - 02/26/08 03:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The Priority mail and Express mail envelopes I always see at the Post Office seem very 'solid' and not at all breathable.

Are you sure they would { theoretically }allow FAE?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8072584 - 02/26/08 03:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well they are, Try 'em out!


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Rickster]
    #8072659 - 02/26/08 03:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Works for me.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8072701 - 02/26/08 04:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, they are the right ones:thumbup:

Go to www.usps.com click on --->All Products & Services , click on ---->Envelopes, then go to the links on the left
under "Prepaid Envelopes" and click the Priority Mail link and the last pic that says:



Priority Mail Envelope


Tyvek
11.625" X 15.125
Minimum order: 10
Maximum order: 800
No Charge



They will send you 800 freeTyvek envelopes and yes, they are the right ones=I just got a box not 3 weeks ago;)
from that very site=the exact same thing. I have been using them for years.




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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: endepth]
    #8072711 - 02/26/08 04:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I just put my head inside one and tried breathing. I damn near passed out and probably would've died if I hadn't remembered I could take it off my head at any time.

But really, I've tried breathing 'through it' and ...nothing. Crazy huh?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8072759 - 02/26/08 04:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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blackegg said:
I just put my head inside one and tried breathing. I damn near passed out and probably would've died if I hadn't remembered I could take it off my head at any time.

Crazy huh?




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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8072798 - 02/26/08 04:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I just put my head inside one and tried breathing. I damn near passed out and probably would've died if I hadn't remembered I could take it off my head at any time.








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F*&^ing idiot:tongue:



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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8072845 - 02/26/08 04:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

but seriously, these things breathe?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8072872 - 02/26/08 04:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

it gives enough air exchange, cut a piece and put it up to your mouth and breathe, they are made to be breathable and waterproof.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8072900 - 02/26/08 04:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

you are a moron!! That being said, they are breathable. Now this means no air tight. This does not mean breathable for humans. Since you are an idiot and you do come across as liking to do stupid shit why don't you cut a 6x6 piece of tyvek out and cover your mouth.
Now lean up to the mirror and exhale. IT will be very slow and seem like nothing is happening. If you can exhale long enough and push hard enough you should see some condensation the mirror.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Rickster]
    #8072906 - 02/26/08 04:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

gas exhange not air exchange. If you cant breathe through it its not going to exchange any air.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: poof]
    #8072920 - 02/26/08 04:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah since air isnt a gas


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: poof]
    #8073004 - 02/26/08 05:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have been using these Tyvek envelopes as a moisture barrier and for gas exchange or air exchange-it's the same thing,
for years now and YES they are breathable and YES they are perfect for use in Mycology to be put under your jar lids for
gas/air exchange and to keep the humidity inside the jar from evaporating----------



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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8073089 - 02/26/08 05:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm about to pass out over here!
I've breathing and breathing...my nose even started to bleed a little...damn!
You guys arn't pulling my leg are yoo?

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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8073180 - 02/26/08 05:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

How the fuck else can we spell it out for you? YES IT WORKS.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: endepth]
    #8073199 - 02/26/08 06:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Better question,

is tyvek "breatable" enough for a monotub?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: cokaznrebel]
    #8073220 - 02/26/08 06:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yup... my friend uses it. He has a fan on in the room 24/7 though.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8073249 - 02/26/08 06:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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doc34 said:
Yes, they are the right ones:thumbup:

Go to www.usps.com click on --->All Products & Services , click on ---->Envelopes, then go to the links on the left
under "Prepaid Envelopes" and click the Priority Mail link and the last pic that says:



Priority Mail Envelope


Tyvek
11.625" X 15.125
Minimum order: 10
Maximum order: 800
No Charge



They will send you 800 freeTyvek envelopes and yes, they are the right ones=I just got a box not 3 weeks ago;)
from that very site=the exact same thing. I have been using them for years.




Doc




Thanks for that help Doc, I just ordered 800 myself!


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8073357 - 02/26/08 06:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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doc34 said:
Yes, they are the right ones:thumbup:

Go to www.usps.com click on --->All Products & Services , click on ---->Envelopes, then go to the links on the left
under "Prepaid Envelopes" and click the Priority Mail link and the last pic that says:



Priority Mail Envelope


Tyvek
11.625" X 15.125
Minimum order: 10
Maximum order: 800
No Charge



They will send you 800 freeTyvek envelopes and yes, they are the right ones=I just got a box not 3 weeks ago;)
from that very site=the exact same thing. I have been using them for years.




Doc




What do you tell them when they call and ask why you need them?

I ordered 100 and they called to confirm the amount.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Frost000]
    #8073759 - 02/26/08 08:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

tell them you need it to grow ur shrooms with:thumbup:


use a little common since. " i need these to send out some documents to a customer."

or you can tell them you put 'em over fat chicks head when you take home from the bar..... tell them ur country's flag doesn't do a good enough job.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blackegg]
    #8073841 - 02/26/08 08:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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blackegg said:
The Priority mail and Express mail envelopes I always see at the Post Office seem very 'solid' and not at all breathable.

Are you sure they would { theoretically }allow FAE?




CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

WOW, a n00b has NEVER figured it out. Oh, they all fall for the Tyvek trap... but not you... YOU saw right through it!

I am amazed!!!

How did you KNOW that EVERYONE at The Shroomery has been lying about Tyvek?

We thought our little secret would hold up... but you KNEW we were pulling your leg!

You are the only newb to ever figure it out.

Again, congrats! You clever... CLEVER guy!

Tyvek DOES NOT WORK... instead... just DON'T USE A FILTER AT ALL!!! That is what us veterans do when we use jars. No lids... and we ALSO spray our spores with Lysol.

Fuck Tyvek! It is a HOAX... and YOU FIGURED IT OUT!

FYI, Polyfill is also a hoax... and you can't breathe through it either. That is why pillows are often used as murder weapons!

Don't tell anybody. This hoax is a Shroomery tradition.

Again, congratulations! You figured it out. Yes you did.

I'm proud of you.

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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Rose]
    #8073991 - 02/26/08 08:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl2:


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: norml840]
    #8075473 - 02/27/08 02:03 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Will they really send you 800 tyvek envelops? That many would cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of $400 at Officemax. Is it better to order a more reasonable quantity? It's awesome that they send them to you for free under the assumption that you'll utilize Priority Mail, but aren't they aware that Tyvek envelopes of that sort have other uses (not talking about shrooms, just non-mail uses)???


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Mepher]
    #8075643 - 02/27/08 02:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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, but aren't they aware that Tyvek envelopes of that sort have other uses (not talking about shrooms, just non-mail uses)???




Name some other uses?

Sure they know that they might be used for something other than mail this is why there is a warning about misuse on each one.
I would love to see someone get busted for using these.
Its all good to use 10-20 of them but 400. Go out and buy a roll of tyvek. I have a 10x20 foot piece that I got for free from a construction site and I have been using it for years


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Mepher]
    #8076083 - 02/27/08 07:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What I did, and I know its probably unheard of, is I drove myself to the nearest post office walked right in through the front doors and picked up 15 or so of those things, turned around and walked my skinny ass right back to my car.
I have lots of tyvek and didn't order or buy a thing!

Wish Id known it was a scam though and to thank I wrapped my house in that stuff:rolleyes:


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Rose]
    #8076093 - 02/27/08 08:10 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

WOW, a n00b has NEVER figured it out. Oh, they all fall for the Tyvek trap... but not you... YOU saw right through it!

I am amazed!!!

How did you KNOW that EVERYONE at The Shroomery has been lying about Tyvek?

We thought our little secret would hold up... but you KNEW we were pulling your leg!

You are the only newb to ever figure it out.

Again, congrats! You clever... CLEVER guy!

Tyvek DOES NOT WORK... instead... just DON'T USE A FILTER AT ALL!!! That is what us veterans do when we use jars. No lids... and we ALSO spray our spores with Lysol.

Fuck Tyvek! It is a HOAX... and YOU FIGURED IT OUT!

FYI, Polyfill is also a hoax... and you can't breathe through it either. That is why pillows are often used as murder weapons!

Don't tell anybody. This hoax is a Shroomery tradition.

Again, congratulations! You figured it out. Yes you did.

I'm proud of you.









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Damn it, I hate it with they outsmart us Cervantes, now WTF do we do:confused:
The noobs are taking control!
We are ruined, the Shroomery has been comprimised ----RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!

They will never take me alive!!!!!!

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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8076117 - 02/27/08 08:32 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ordering 400 of them would throw up a big caution flag to the post office. You can get a roll of tyvek like tahoe said. You can also get packs of tyvek coveralls at lowes and cut them up.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Frost000]
    #8076191 - 02/27/08 09:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Ordering 400 of them would throw up a big caution flag to the post office.





Excuse me, but, what flag are you speaking of?


THEY GIVE THESE AWAY FOR FREE TO CUSTOMERS WHO USE THEM TO SEND DOCUMENTS/PAPERS/FORMS/LETTERS OR EVEN A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER IF YOU SO CHOOSE!
THERE WILL BE NO FLAG RAISED OR ANY AWARENESS OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AS LONG AS YOU DON"T GO INTO THE POST OFFICE AND TELL THEM YOU ARE GOING TO USE THEM TO GROW ILLEGAL MUSHROOMS-THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM!

WHAT PART OF "NO CHARGE" ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT GETTING!!!!!


THEY ARE FREE!!!

You can even walk into the local office and grab a handfull of them = THEY ARE FREE FOR THE TAKING =GO GET SOME!!!



BETTER yet, don't believe me, that way you won't go get them all and there will be some left when I run out of them=100 years from now;).

You are wanting to grow an illegal substance here in the states but you are afraid to go and get something that is free=how will they know what you are using them for unless you tell them?
Wait this guy has a look of a mushroom cultivator, see the spores behind his ears, yeah, he's guilty of it, so lets not give him any Tyvek envelopes, better yet, lets report him to the authorities:rolleyes:



Get real people, I have been doing this way longer than most of you yung'ins have been in this world and I use them faithfully.
I would be more worried about carrying in a bunch of jars into my house than anything due to  the crack-down on Meth cooks before I would sweat this small shit.


Anyhow, For those who know=know;)

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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8076966 - 02/27/08 02:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Uhh...i'm not saying they know you're cultivating mushrooms. I never said that. But they do call you to confirm the amount. Why would they call to confirm the amount unless it's suspicious to order 800 envelopes...?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Frost000]
    #8077013 - 02/27/08 02:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If its suspicious why do they make it so simple?

Wouldnt they make it a little harder than just clicking one thing online to order up to 800 envelopes?

Or reduce the amount you can order to 50 at a time or something?

Clearly there is a demand for the things, enough that they set up an online area to order them so they wouldnt have to deal with the request using actual human resources to handle it. And the demand isnt from people growing mushrooms.

There are businesses that sends out thousands of envelopes a month.

I know here, when we send out checks to partners we can send 1000 out in one day.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blowingsm0ke]
    #8078231 - 02/27/08 07:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

do u guys use one or wo layers? ive always used two...


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Frost000]
    #8079557 - 02/28/08 12:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Uhh...i'm not saying they know you're cultivating mushrooms. I never said that. But they do call you to confirm the amount. Why would they call to confirm the amount unless it's suspicious to order 800 envelopes...?




I ordered them the other day and they have yet to call me. I don't know why they would call you but so far they have left me alone for ordering 800 envelopes.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: galadar]
    #8079562 - 02/28/08 12:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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galadar said:
do u guys use one or wo layers? ive always used two...




1 is enough, you are just wasting your stolen tyvek if you use two


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If its suspicious why do they make it so simple?






I think they would hope that you are using these bags to send stuff via usps. I would like to see that they link their website with your usps account and that they compare your online account and shipments with the amount of bags that you request. They should not just send you guys 400 bags at one time.

If there were some way that I could give them a heads up about this I would. But I think me emailing them and saying that there are a bunch of people using thier envelopes for growing mushrooms instead of send packages would raise a red flag on me also.

Would you guys pay 20$ for a 9'x10' piece of tyvek deleverd to your house??
i just did the math. A piece that big would make 810 4x4 pieces and 1440 3x3 pieces. I think 3x3 would cover a wide mouth just fine. That is a shit load of jars.

You guys need to stop ripping off the post office. You guys do realize that there will be no post office one day and probably in our lifetime. The only thing that keeps them in business is junk mail.
I realize that these envelopes are probably only .20 to make but its not about that. Its just the point and you mushroom heads are all about karma. You are not pulling one over on the man.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8080469 - 02/28/08 08:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

They are free.

Nobody's ripping off anybody Tahoe, they are free to use however you see fit.



I don't know why they called the one guy either. I have ordered boxes of them for other people also and I have never received a call, not one!

But, then again, they know me and they know I won't just call and have them shipped to a bogus addy and not pick them up so they have to return them either, wasting postage.
Maybe they just called to verify the order-don't spazz-out, it's ok.

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If there were some way that I could give them a heads up about this I would. But I think me emailing them and saying that there are a bunch of people using thier envelopes for growing mushrooms instead of send packages would raise a red flag on me also.





Why would you do that-Don't they call that "SNITCHING"?


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8080555 - 02/28/08 09:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

WOW, a n00b has NEVER figured it out. Oh, they all fall for the Tyvek trap... but not you... YOU saw right through it!

I am amazed!!!

How did you KNOW that EVERYONE at The Shroomery has been lying about Tyvek?

We thought our little secret would hold up... but you KNEW we were pulling your leg!

You are the only newb to ever figure it out.

Again, congrats! You clever... CLEVER guy!

Tyvek DOES NOT WORK... instead... just DON'T USE A FILTER AT ALL!!! That is what us veterans do when we use jars. No lids... and we ALSO spray our spores with Lysol.

Fuck Tyvek! It is a HOAX... and YOU FIGURED IT OUT!

FYI, Polyfill is also a hoax... and you can't breathe through it either. That is why pillows are often used as murder weapons!

Don't tell anybody. This hoax is a Shroomery tradition.

Again, congratulations! You figured it out. Yes you did.

I'm proud of you.






Damn it, I hate it with they outsmart us Cervantes, now WTF do we do
The noobs are taking control!
We are ruined, the Shroomery has been comprimised ----RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!!!!

They will never take me alive!!!!!!





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But really, I have blood running down my nose and it's hard to see the computr screan through the envelope .

Someone please just tell me the troot! Does this stuffs work or not? AHHH!! Blood!
Does this stuffs work?
Like do it? Do it? Do it?
Why don't noone tells me the troot?
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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: doc34]
    #8080878 - 02/28/08 12:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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They are free.

Nobody's ripping off anybody Tahoe, they are free to use however you see fit.





Wrong Doc. Every envelope has "This package is the property of the U.S. postal service and its provided solely for use in sending Priority Mail. Misuse may be a violatin of federal law".

The only reason why they are free is because they are intended to be used for mail.

AS for it being called snitching. No, I doubt that they will come after anyone fro the shroomery but it would be nice to see that they stopped giving them away by the hundreds to people who do not use usps.

I believe what people are doing is called stealing and taking advantage of the usps.

Its not like I really give a damn but I am just pointing out the only true fact about it. It is stealing. Even if they send it to you.

Think about it like this although its extreme, which getting hundreds of these for free is also extreme.
Lets say all you had to do is go online and click a few boxes and say that you are disabled and you will get $500 a month for free from the government. The only requirement is that you have to be disabled but you are not. So now you are getting $500 a month for nothing. Is that stealing??


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8080903 - 02/28/08 12:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well *that* would be lieing about being handicapped for hundreds of dollars...um...totally different.

by the way
"Misuse may be a violatin' of federal law" sounds pretty dern serious!
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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8080922 - 02/28/08 12:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I agree with you that it's stealing Tahoe, but the G has been stealing my money for years. I'm sure this doesn't help postage rates though.

800 envelopes? Is that dude fucking retarded or Paul Stamets himself? Nobody in a couple years would use that much Tyvek unless they're running a commercial operation.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: FooMan]
    #8080952 - 02/28/08 12:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Like I said, "i don't really give a damn". But anyone who thinks it is not stealing is probably a little ignorant.
Hell I have a few flat rate boxes and envelopes sitting on my desk right now. It is the 10,20,50 free envelopes that you have. Its the people who are actually clicking 400 envelopes and then they end up with 350 of them going into the trash 5 years down the line.

I just wanted to point something out before you folk starting stealing 1000's of envelopes.
This is just something for all you folks who start believing in karma while tripping to think about next time you dose.
The government although corrupt doesn't owe you anything. Most of you live in the u.s. and the majority of the rest of the world are envious of this.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8080967 - 02/28/08 12:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Get off your high horse tahoe. What do you think it costs to make 1000 of those envelopes? All of 5$? But I do agree, order what you NEED and leave it at that...


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8080987 - 02/28/08 12:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have earned this high horse. Cost does not make it any less of an issue. It is still stealing.
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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8081297 - 02/28/08 02:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I think they would hope that you are using these bags to send stuff via usps. I would like to see that they link their website with your usps account and that they compare your online account and shipments with the amount of bags that you request. They should not just send you guys 400 bags at one time.

If there were some way that I could give them a heads up about this I would. But I think me emailing them and saying that there are a bunch of people using thier envelopes for growing mushrooms instead of send packages would raise a red flag on me also.

Would you guys pay 20$ for a 9'x10' piece of tyvek deleverd to your house??
i just did the math. A piece that big would make 810 4x4 pieces and 1440 3x3 pieces. I think 3x3 would cover a wide mouth just fine. That is a shit load of jars.

You guys need to stop ripping off the post office. You guys do realize that there will be no post office one day and probably in our lifetime. The only thing that keeps them in business is junk mail.
I realize that these envelopes are probably only .20 to make but its not about that. Its just the point and you mushroom heads are all about karma. You are not pulling one over on the man.




First of all I never even said I ordered any, and when I do we use them for business purposes.

As I said, there are days in the month when we send out 1000 envelopes of various sizes, some of them are the tyvek kind. When we order them from the USPS we use them to mail business shit out, if there happen to be any left I will grab them and take them home rather than let them go to waste.

What the fuck are you the postmaster general or something? You are taking this awfully seriously, no one said anything about ripping the post office off or ordering 800 and letting them go to waste.

And im sorry but ordering 800 tyvek envelopes is not going to put them out of business, even if none of them get used to actually send mail. And if that sort of thing could put them out of business then they need to stop making it so easy to get them.

If the business I work for started a website offering "800 free of X" that could potentially put me out of business if misused, I think we would put a stop to it.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blowingsm0ke]
    #8081323 - 02/28/08 02:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wait no I know who you are tahoe, Newman from Seinfeld. He takes the mail very seriously too. :smile:

In my first post I was responding to the guy above me anyway, in regards to him saying it was suspicious to order 800 of them. All I said was it shouldnt be seeing as how they have a system set up to allow you to do so.

I made no comment on ordering any, the legality or morality of it so I am kind of surprised you found the need to take my post and lash out against me as if I was ripping off the post office.

I didnt even say anything about that man.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blowingsm0ke]
    #8081405 - 02/28/08 03:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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First of all I never even said I ordered any, and when I do we use them for business purposes.




Enough of your riddles


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blowingsm0ke]
    #8081409 - 02/28/08 03:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Eh, it's always good to only get what you can use. Point taken Tahoe.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8081445 - 02/28/08 03:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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First of all I never even said I ordered any, and when I do we use them for business purposes.




Enough of your riddles




How is that a riddle?

When responding to your reply to me, in which you said to stop ripping the post office off, I had not even mentioned ordering or using any tyvek envelopes. I said we send out 1000 checks in one day, do you use giant tyvek to send out a check? I know we don't. But I did mention that there are businesses that could use 800 tyvek envelopes, thus the reason for the system to take orders, and the fact that it is not suspicious to order them. Thats all I said to the guy when he asked if it suspicious.

Then you come along and quote me and tell me to stop ripping the post office off. I'm ripping them off by telling this guy its not suspicious to order them?


I have no idea why you were even replying to me with all that shit, all I did was answer the guy above me by saying that it is not suspicious to order the envelopes.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #8081671 - 02/28/08 04:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, Tahoe, I completely agree with your opinion (statement of fact...) about the envelopes. BUT, come on, don't try to compare that to taking ANYTHING from the government. I don't agree with lying (as part of your proposed scenario), but anything I can do to take back my hard earned money from the gov't is a great thing. Especially after hearing that the NON-earned tax break basically gives a free check worth thousands to people that aren't working enough to pay into the tax system in the first place. I don't have a problem with charity to the poor who are willing to attempt to help themselves (I know they can't always do even that much), but a free check just for doing nothing? Aghhh!!!!!!!!

----breath-----

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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: MycoAu]
    #8081703 - 02/28/08 04:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, Tahoe, I completely agree with your opinion (statement of fact...) about the envelopes. BUT, come on, don't try to compare that to taking ANYTHING from the government.




I did say it was extreme didn't I?
Now you are speaking in riddles also. Dont try to compare that to taking anything from the government? My scenario and USPS are both from the government.

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First of all I never even said I ordered any, and when I do we use them for business purposes.




Enough of your riddles




How is that a riddle?






First you say that you didn't order any and then you said that you do order them for business purposes.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8081807 - 02/28/08 04:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, Tahoe, I completely agree with your opinion (statement of fact...) about the envelopes.  BUT, come on, don't try to compare that to taking ANYTHING from the government. 




I did say it was extreme didn't I?
Now you are speaking in riddles also. Dont try to compare that to taking anything from the government? My scenario and USPS are both from the government.

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First of all I never even said I ordered any, and when I do we use them for business purposes.




Enough of your riddles




How is that a riddle?






First you say that you didn't order any and then you said that you do order them for business purposes.




I understand that, but I hadnt even made that post yet when you laid into me for ripping off the post office. The only post I made in this thread at that point made no mention of me using the tyvek envelopes.

It doesnt matter anyway, but I did find out a way you can let the post office know about all the bad guys in this thread anonymously.

Mail to:
Jack Potter
475 Lenfant Plaza SW
Washington DC 20260-0010

Just make sure you wear gloves so you dont get your fingerprints on there, or alternatively dial 1-800-ASK-USPS from a pay phone. I'm sure they'll be happy to crack down on the tyvek bandit ring. :smile:


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8081864 - 02/28/08 05:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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If its suspicious why do they make it so simple?






I think they would hope that you are using these bags to send stuff via usps. I would like to see that they link their website with your usps account and that they compare your online account and shipments with the amount of bags that you request. They should not just send you guys 400 bags at one time.





I was only directing this comment to you.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8081881 - 02/28/08 05:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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tahoe said:
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If its suspicious why do they make it so simple?






I think they would hope that you are using these bags to send stuff via usps. I would like to see that they link their website with your usps account and that they compare your online account and shipments with the amount of bags that you request. They should not just send you guys 400 bags at one time.





I was only directing this comment to you.




Oh, my mistake then. I thought the whole thing was to me. :crazy2:

I agree with what you're saying, but do they really have the capability to link your shipments with your online account? I am sure they do if you order stamps or something online but say I walk into the post office and mail a few items out in envelopes I ordered, I dont know if that would get back to the online system or not?

The worst thing about the system to me, if they want to clamp down on it, is that it doesnt require any form of ID. I could sign up for an account in anyones name right now and have 800 envelopes delivered to them, and do the same tomorrow and so on to eternity. Without their consent.


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: blowingsm0ke]
    #8082203 - 02/28/08 06:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Completely off topic. This thread should be closed.


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    #8082407 - 02/28/08 07:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well we now know what thick as a brick looks like in a forum


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8082500 - 02/28/08 07:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Think about it like this although its extreme, which getting hundreds of these for free is also extreme.
Lets say all you had to do is go online and click a few boxes and say that you are disabled and you will get $500 a month for free from the government. The only requirement is that you have to be disabled but you are not. So now you are getting $500 a month for nothing. Is that stealing??






No, that would be "Theft by Deception";)



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I believe what people are doing is called stealing and taking advantage of the usps.






No, it's not stealing:rolleyes:

Misuse maybe, but not stealing.

I get your point-tis wrong either way and yes, it is taking advantage of the post office(in the sense of misuse of the envelopes)-but, you pay for those envelopes every time you pay postage, so what if I get 800 of them at "No-charge", hell, I've been paying for them for well over 35 years( not to mention the salary cut that my sister-in-law got:mad2:), so, I feel like it's about an even swap-but, getting them for other intended uses other than to mail whatever is wrong-I agree.

But, I do get your point;)


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Re: PO Tyvek is breathable? [Re: tahoe]
    #8082509 - 02/28/08 07:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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But anyone who thinks it is not stealing is probably a little ignorant











:rofl2:



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Edit = Hey Tahoe? Just to let you know that I went into my local Post Office a few years back and my sister-in-law had told her co-workers what I was using them for and nobody said anything(they are so cheap to make, who cares?) but, then again, this was when I was growing Oysters and selling them to her co-workers and every local restaurant/grocery store in this town=Of course, people love me here and I don't act like a suspicious young kid trying to steal something either. I'm just saying that some of us grow edibles and medicinals using those Tyvek envelopes=not all of us are bad:tongue:


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