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Autonomous robotics
    #8070818 - 02/25/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone have any interest/thoughts on this subject?  As someone involved in the DARPA Grand Challenge, I am obviously interested.  Anybody like to play with robotics :smile:?


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: Engineer]
    #8076900 - 02/27/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

No real inciteful thoughts as such, but it'll be cool when such vehicles and machinery can be used safely in populated urban areas to aid military. Though i do not want to think to hard about automatic taxi drivers, fast food vendors, or anything like that, what will the immigrants and poorer class do if they're replaced by robots?! :P


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: flangenips]
    #8077195 - 02/27/08 01:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, the obvious immediate use for autonomous robots is military.  My opinion, but peace through superior technology seems to work.

As for the future, and robots displacing humans as workers, I don't think about that so much.  The economy that brings robots to this stage will be wealthy, and the minimum wage will be high (I presume).  Jobs will be available, as the robots will rely heavily on human labor to make parts.  Good thoughts though, anybody else want to chime in on this subject?  I'm looking for realists and experienced robotics engineers/scientist, but any input is good :wink:.


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: Engineer]
    #8078726 - 02/27/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

if robot's take over people's jobs in the generality of employment, naturally things will drop dramatically in price, we'll be in a different state of mind once that happens however.


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: Engineer]
    #8080119 - 02/28/08 02:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes, the obvious immediate use for autonomous robots is military.  My opinion, but peace through superior technology seems to work.




can you elaborate on that?
Considering one of my second year papers for my Philosophy degree was "Cyberspace, Cyborgs and the meaning of life" we never really touched on that. I'm interested to hear what you mean by "peace through superior technology." :smile:


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: flangenips]
    #8080787 - 02/28/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I mean lowering the number of dead, not peace really. I think that applied technology (autonomous robots, "smart" bombs, etc.) can save lives through selective killing. When you take humans out of the equation, and use drones (i.e. Predator), you get rid of some of the errors that humans make on the battle field.

For instance, friendly fire mishaps happen often. They are sometimes a result of scared people acting on impulse. Robots don't (yet) worry about their existence, so they can afford to not act on impulse. Robots make the perfect soldier...they only follow their programming and nothing else.

Also, there is a humbling factor when facing superior technology. Imagine being a soldier, losing several of you close friends to capture a tank, only to find that the tank contains no person? I think that it would be demoralizing and would lead to an early surrender, hopefully.

I'm rambling on, hope this was useful to you. Lemme know what you think!


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: Engineer]
    #8081222 - 02/28/08 11:56 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

oh yes i see.
Ever see that show "future weapons" i think it was on discovery or national geographic. Anywho they had a few RC Robots the size of a dog that were pretty good at moving around, could even climb stairs, if a human could hold a weapon this dinky little robot could mount it and use it, was quite cool, had cameras to give it a 360 view. It could literally clear a room before troops have to go in.

Then theres the the EMP bomb, the US military seems to be advancing with this a bit. Can disable all electronics including automatic vehicles in its range, imagine when it can be used to disable mid-air ICBMs!


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: Engineer]
    #8081740 - 02/28/08 02:36 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Ive built a robot.  It picked up objects and sorted things based off a barcode it would read.  It was sexy as hell, and carried a robotic arm on its back :awesome:


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Re: Autonomous robotics [Re: TheCow]
    #8084965 - 02/29/08 05:09 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've worked on a few robotics projects, but only one was autonomous. As part of a EE project in college, we built a GPS based controller for a small RC airplane. This was in the very early days of GPS when there were only a handful of satellites in orbit. We had one of the first commercially available GPS units from Motorola. The biggest pain of the project was finding a time window when we could lock on to four satellites. Selective availability was turned on back then and caused problems as well.

The other projects that I worked on I can't talk much about. Neither were autonomous. One was a robot designed to silently clear a path through a minefield and the other is in the "I can neither confirm nor deny" realm. My part on both projects was very small.


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