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friend wanted me to ask, is its possible to shoot a 9mm from 100 yards away and hit a milk jug?
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Why doesn't the friend try it and find out? If there isn't any significant wind around, I guess it's possible.
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how would this not be possible?
probably not at 1000 yards, but 100 yards yes, it is humanly possible.
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with a pistol it's more difficult than you think I'm trying to find a video of a man shooting a balloon from 350 feet with a snub nose .38
most incredible shot I've ever seen
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I've actually done that, I shot a coke bottle from 100yards, I did have a scope but it was just a circle-dot scope no magnification.
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i dropped a deer at 80 yards with a 44.Magnum i had a scope but i still got the bastard.
and yes it is possible too hit a milk jug at 100 yards with a 9mm. Ive used a high point carbine and have done it but it has a much longer barrel, and makes it way more accurate, but it did hit it. dunno if i could do that with my beretta, maybe my s&w
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the guy I'm referring to is an exhibition shooter, he used open sights, windage and trajectory with a 2" barrel over that distance without optics...
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personally i spent about 50 9mm rounds shooting at a milk jug full of water at about 30 feet (10 yards) and i missed every time except when i went up with the last 2 rounds and shot it point blank.
i have very little shooting expierence.
however, on that same trip, i hit a gatoride bottle at over 60 feet....
so yeah, its possible.... even likely if your a trained shooter with a good gun, and properly adjusted dights.
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Cannabischarlie said: how would this not be possible?
probably not at 1000 yards, but 100 yards yes, it is humanly possible.
Not possible, unless you count luck. A shooter with a life time of experiance might hit it 1/1000 times.
I would compair said task to golf and hiting a hole in one. Sure, it happens, no one ever expects it tho.
I got shot at some time ago, and the asshole was less than 50 yards away accross a big street in a yard. ( b4 you ask its a dumb story ) the bastard could not hit me or my friend out in the open ( granted running for our lives :p) his first shot we were standing still. Two adult males are certainly larger than milk jugs.
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A guy I shoot with hit a balloon we had set up at 200 metres (218 yards) with his 5th shot with a 9mm. This was from a Norinco NP22 (Chinese Sig 226 copy.) I've watched other guys set up a gong around the same distance and hit it 8 or 9 times out of 10 with an XD40. Gong was maybe twice the size of a dinner plate.
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Re: Handguns [Re: inetd]
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inetd said: A guy I shoot with hit a balloon we had set up at 200 metres (218 yards) with his 5th shot with a 9mm. This was from a Norinco NP22 (Chinese Sig 226 copy.) I've watched other guys set up a gong around the same distance and hit it 8 or 9 times out of 10 with an XD40. Gong was maybe twice the size of a dinner plate.
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Maximum effective range of an m9 (9mm sidearm) is 55 yards.
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definatly short of 100 yards, quite short of 200+ meters.
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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You responded to me, and I said ASSUALT RIFFLES
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my bad. AR's yes 9mm handguns prolly not
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said: Maximum effective range of an m9 (9mm sidearm) is 55 yards.
I will give you 70 yards and I will start shooting at you with my 9mm Hipoint piece of shit handgun.
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Re: Handguns [Re: Drummer]
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hahaha, hi-points are such pieces of shit!
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said: Maximum effective range of an m9 (9mm sidearm) is 55 yards.
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definatly short of 100 yards, quite short of 200+ meters.
Your all full of shit
that's the distance for killing a a human, not a balloon
here's the same shot, open sights with a .45
same guys shooting a quarter, open sights, .45acp
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I am a competitive shooter. I shoot with a 9mm and im ganna tell you, it's not impossible at all to hit a target at 100 yards. I can hit a target center ring 1/4 times at that distance.
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theres a reason in your videos the guy is using a 45. Funny thing you didnt find one of him shooting a 9mm.
And I have been shot at from 70 yards or so. I wasnt hit, niether was my friend. It sounded like a 9mm.
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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hitting a target is all in the shooter, not the gun the effective range of a .45 is only 75 yards and killing a balloon at 100 yards isnt that difficult if you know how to shoot even with a 9mm
I can hit 1/2in groups at 1000yds
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Props to the rifle shooting. Ive handeled firearms my whole life and admit i havent been compeled to shoot balloons, however i have spent a thousand + hours indoors (40 yards max.) Im as good a shot as anyone in there and that target (human shilluette) is pretty elusive at 40 yards with a 9mm. I throw a round from time to time. With a rifle 40 yards in nothing. I guess if you had an exotic 9mm with a barrel + 10 inches, scope, and prolly a single shot mechinism you could be pretty accurate at 100 yards. Now that gun i just invented in my head seems more like a carbine rifle (without a butt stock), but for arguments sake it would work.
you sound like you know your shit prisioner, surley you would not dissagree that at 100 yards an iron site would cover about 6 inches worth of target? Thats alot to account for IME.
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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Now imagine trying to be accurate with flintlock musket or other out-dated firearm
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Im ganna try it with a throwing knife! not really.
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Re: Handguns [Re: Kada]
#8072127 - 02/26/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sling shot all the way, man.
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said: Im as good a shot as anyone in there and that target (human shilluette) is pretty elusive at 40 yards with a 9mm.
apparently you're not that great a shot if you have a hard time at 40 yards with a 9mm on a silhouette, ,my 63 yo mother has no problem at 50 with her airweight .38 she's best shooting from the hip.
watch the guy with the steyer walk into the frame, listen for the ring
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I guess if you had an exotic 9mm with a barrel + 10 inches, scope, and prolly a single shot mechinism you could be pretty accurate at 100 yards.
learn your pistol, learn yourself, and know that some people are just good shooters while others lack the skill, I have no problem shooting at ranges, as I mentioned before learning trajectory and windage is a must, there's no need for enhanced optics, extra long barrels and such, the second video was open sights at 100 yards shooting a quarter, sure it was a .45 but it was a semiauto with a 5" barrel.
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you sound like you know your shit prisioner, surley you would not dissagree that at 100 yards an iron site would cover about 6 inches worth of target? Thats alot to account for IME.
it's quite possible, the sights do cover some of the target, again it's knowing your weapon, as for knowing my shit, I qualified expert in rifle and pistol
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Ok i made a call.. im going to the range in 2 hours with some cops, im going to see if any of them ( or our buddies that own the range ) can hit a quarter at 30+ yards. We will be shoting 9's, 40's, a 45 and just for fun an AR 15 ( if the snow isnt bad. ) Ill see if anyone can hit it in 5 shots. Not that i dont believe you pub forum experts or anything, but im sure your no better than old cops or gunsmiths that shoot more then they wack off, so its a fair test. No more e-penis measuring, im going to find out the hard way
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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rodfarva said: im going to the range in 2 hours with some cops
I hope they can hit the paper somewhere
http://totalrecoil.wordpress.com/2007/12/
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Ha, ya i can never pass on a genuine oppertunity to make fun of cops. Well if your competitive shooting is so special im sure the guy on the SWAT team will be proficient in the discipline. Dont forget ive done some shooting myself, including acctual firefights not that im braging, but im breathing.
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Re: Handguns [Re: rodfarva]
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best shooter I'd ever known had a lazy eye, at 40yds he made eyes and eyebrows on a silhouette, the range master asked how long he's been shooting, it was his first time with a pistol
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It seriously never ceases to amaze me how many people on an otherwise intelligent online community advocate the use of guns.
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that's the distance for killing a a human, not a balloon
here's the same shot, open sights with a .45
not that im backpeadling, but i overlooked this statement which makes alot of sence.
Let me ask this; what kindof drop does a 9mm handgun round have over 100 yards. In other words how high above the target do you have to aim in said scenario?
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Prisoner#1 said: best shooter I'd ever known had a lazy eye, at 40yds he made eyes and eyebrows on a silhouette, the range master asked how long he's been shooting, it was his first time with a pistol
ive seen alot of beginers do very well on their first go. By the third or fourth trip shooting they start messing up the triger pull in anticipation. The suprize makes them good i think, but when they worry about the POp they flinch.
unrelated: i feel like i was a better marksman in my teenage years. I was definatly better with a shotgun, although im still the best shot in my family. My 18 yr old cousin is in a close second.
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Re: Handguns [Re: sam420]
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sam420 said: It seriously never ceases to amaze me how many people on an otherwise intelligent online community advocate the use of guns.
if you want that debate... I'm ready, GUNS SAVE LIVES IN THE HANDS OF CIVILIANS
cops are never there when the shit is going down, they're kinda useless unless it's to take a report
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rodfarva said: My 18 yr old cousin is in a close second.
my mom is still a better shot than me  she started teaching me with her marlin and an M1 at the age of 6
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rodfarva said: Let me ask this; what kindof drop does a 9mm handgun round have over 100 yards. In other words how high above the target do you have to aim in said scenario?
depends on the round and the range conditions
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sam420 said: It seriously never ceases to amaze me how many people on an otherwise intelligent online community advocate the use of guns.
if you want that debate... I'm ready, GUNS SAVE LIVES IN THE HANDS OF CIVILIANS
cops are never there when the shit is going down, they're kinda useless unless it's to take a report
Nah to be honest Prisoner#1, I don't want that debate In full and total respect to you I think we are different personalities and I don't see any conclusion being reached
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if you want that debate... I'm ready, GUNS SAVE LIVES IN THE HANDS OF CIVILIANS
cops are never there when the shit is going down, they're kinda useless unless it's to take a report
In my city a priority 1 call to police gets an average response time of 13 min. What can happen to your wife or daughter in 13 min? Bearing arms is a key to sustaining liberty and testiment to freedom.
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Prisoner#1 said:
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sam420 said: It seriously never ceases to amaze me how many people on an otherwise intelligent online community advocate the use of guns.
if you want that debate... I'm ready, GUNS SAVE LIVES IN THE HANDS OF CIVILIANS
cops are never there when the shit is going down, they're kinda useless unless it's to take a report
In my city a priority 1 call to police gets an average response time of 13 min. What can happen to your wife or daughter in 13 min? Bearing arms is a key to sustaining liberty and testiment to freedom.
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sam420 said: Nah to be honest Prisoner#1, I don't want that debate In full and total respect to you I think we are different personalities and I don't see any conclusion being reached
there's never been any evidence that banning firearms has curbed violent crime, being in scotland you know about the debate on banning pocket knives because of the rise in stabbings in the last several years, you've heard about the increase in the use of cheap samurai swords for assaults in addition to the use of air rifles...
what's next, banning alcohol because it's what leads to the violence in most cases?
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Re: Handguns [Re: impgl]
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become a cop and you'll get to shoot all sorts of unarmed Brazilian students in london
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someone po me a handgun in ND ill pick it out and take it to Canada......no worries.....I wont kill any cops.
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no need, the canadians are agreeing to allow american guns into canada
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I bet you have brazillions of brazilians over there
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Handguns are a modern form of evolution, which is good for mankind.
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usg543 said: you planning on killing someone?
as long as he isnt planning on takin on the techno viking
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ego tripping at the gates of hell
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