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School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA]
    #8068871 - 02/25/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education

OAKLAND, Calif., Feb. 25, 2008
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(AP) You know you're in a different kind of college when a teaching assistant sets five marijuana plants down in the middle of a lab and no one blinks a bloodshot eye.

Welcome to Oaksterdam University, a new trade school where higher education takes on a whole new meaning.

The school prepares people for jobs in California's thriving medical marijuana industry. For $200 and the cost of two required textbooks, students learn how to cultivate and cook with cannabis, study which strains of pot are best for certain ailments, and are instructed in the legalities of a business that is against the law in the eyes of the federal government.

"My basic idea is to try to professionalize the industry and have it taken seriously as a real industry, just like beer and distilling hard alcohol," said Richard Lee, 45, an activist and pot-dispensary owner who founded the school in a downtown storefront last fall.

So far, 60 students have completed the two-day weekend course, which is sold out through May. At the end of the class, students are given a take-home test, with the highest scorer - make that "top scorer" - earning the title of class valedictorian.

Before getting to Horticulture 101, the hands-on highlight of Oaksterdam U, the 20 budding botanists, entrepreneurs and political activists at a recent weekend session sat politely through two law lectures and a visiting professor's history talk.

In the lab, Lee measured plant food into a plastic garbage can and explained how, with common sense, upgraded electrical outlets, a fan and an air filter, students can grow pot at home for fun, health, public service - or profit.

Lee explained to his students how to prune and harvest plants, handing the clipping shears to a woman who wasn't sure how close to the stalk to cut without damaging it. He offered his thoughts on which commercial nutrient preparations are best, as well as the advantages of hydroponics, or soil-free gardening.

During a discussion of neighbor relations, he warned against setting boobytraps to keep curious kids out of outdoor gardens.

Students gave various reasons for enrolling. Some said they were simply curious. Others said they wanted tips for growing their own weed, although judging from the questions, a few were ready for the graduate seminar Lee recently added to the curriculum.

Jeff Sanders, 52, said he has been buying medical marijuana since 2003, but wants to open a dispensary in the San Joaquin Valley because he doesn't like having to drive up to San Francisco and paying the markup.

"I see it as a good thing. You are giving back to the community," Sanders said.

Patrick O'Shaughnessy, 37, said he started smoking pot regularly for the first time about a year ago to treat his chronic migraines, depression and anxiety. After attending class, he said felt more confident about growing his own, which he wants to do because the dispensary he frequents often sells out of his favorite strain.

Oaksterdam U draws its name from the jokey nickname for a section of Oakland where some of California's earliest medical marijuana dispensaries took root. The nickname in turn was inspired by the city of Amsterdam, in Holland, where pot use is tolerated.

At one point, the Oaksterdam neighborhood had at least 15 clubs and coffee shops selling pot, a number that dwindled to four when the city started issuing permits and collecting taxes from them a few years ago.

California was the first of a dozen states that have legalized marijuana use for patients with a doctor's recommendation. Despite periodic raids by federal drug agents and the threat of prosecution, clubs and cooperatives where customers can buy the drug of their choice have proliferated; California has 300 to 400, according to advocacy groups.

Entry-level workers are paid a little more than minimum wage, while "bud tenders," can make over $50,000 a year, and owners and top managers more than $100,000, Lee said. But there's also a certain amount of risk - and not just financial, but legal.

Michael Chapman, an assistant agent in charge with the Drug Enforcement Agency's San Francisco office, said authorities are aware of Oaksterdam U and don't see any reason to shut it down. Talking about marijuana is not illegal, and while a small amount of pot is kept on the premises, the DEA tries "to concentrate our case work on the most significant violators," he said.

Still, Chapman said he doesn't like Lee's effort to wrap cannabis education in a cap and gown.

"I think they are sending the wrong message out to the community and it's something that could only facilitate criminal behavior," he said.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/25/health/main3874664.shtml





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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: abesh]
    #8069285 - 02/25/08 05:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

"I think they are sending the wrong message out to the community and it's something that could only facilitate criminal behavior,"

Ah shaddup ya old fart! Open your eyes and see that, despite past "research" (I put it in quotes because who knows of the legitimacy), marijuana is in fact a valid medical herb and product.

It's similar to red wine; we're told alcohol is dangerous (yet still legal) however studies show that a glass of red wine a day can actually be beneficial to some people's health.

Think about that for a while.


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: mentalIMAGE]
    #8069402 - 02/25/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yup, been planning on enrolling in the near future. :yesnod:


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: mentalIMAGE]
    #8069406 - 02/25/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

mentalIMAGE said:
"I think they are sending the wrong message out to the community and it's something that could only facilitate criminal behavior,"

Ah shaddup ya old fart! Open your eyes and see that, despite past "research" (I put it in quotes because who knows of the legitimacy), marijuana is in fact a valid medical herb and product.

It's similar to red wine; we're told alcohol is dangerous (yet still legal) however studies show that a glass of red wine a day can actually be beneficial to some people's health.

Think about that for a while.




you can get the same benefits from grape juice though.


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: sui]
    #8069638 - 02/25/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

suimush said:

you can get the same benefits from grape juice though.




And you can use synthetic THC if you really wanted to but where is the fun in that?


Edited by bait_ (02/25/08 06:48 PM)


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: bait_]
    #8069679 - 02/25/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

richards a great guy hope this lil venture continues.

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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: smily]
    #8071265 - 02/26/08 02:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

stupid idea. A bunch of stoned kids are going to think they are botanists . A good legal way to make cash though, until the shit gets shut down. Sounds like a rip-off to me. Any intelligent person can grow some good buds for personal enjoyment. This sound like a good way to get young folks on some kind of list and then the feds can just look em up in a alumni directory. True knowledge is a product of experience and work, not some unofficial certification program. This is the kind of thing that will bring down medical THC research, and practice. It is not much different then that son'um'bitch fool who got in trouble and said my first passion is "hip hop, and I am also a pharmecuetical dealer" (Not word for word and I don't remember the fuckheads name) It is not time to bring this shit to the attention of the bible belt or other conservatives. I shouldn't hear about the troubles of CA Medical Marijauna when in a hotel in Baltimore. The news is too biased and ready to jump on anything including crab ridden Brangilina and genital warts Brittany. Nothing good can come out of publicity right now.


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: RaMboZo]
    #8072525 - 02/26/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

> stupid idea.

Not true; its an excellent idea.

> A bunch of stoned kids are going to think they are botanists.

Many botanists are stoners.

> A good legal way to make cash though, until the shit gets shut down.

It isn't illegal to teach people, so there is no reason to shut it down.

> Sounds like a rip-off to me.

$200 for a weekend class sounds about right to me. I have been to conferences that are $1500 for a weekend many times.

> Any intelligent person can grow some good buds for personal enjoyment.

But it would be great to have a degree to hang on your wall.

And I bet it would be a lot of fun, with cool teachers and cool classmates.

> This sound like a good way to get young folks on some kind of list and then the feds can just look em up in a alumni directory.

The list of people who like marijuana would be very long.


> This is the kind of thing that will bring down medical THC research, and practice.

I disagree - having industry certifications will help legitimize it.

> It is not time to bring this shit to the attention of the bible belt or other conservatives.

The conservatives are already aware of marijuana, and the school is not in the bible belt.

> I shouldn't hear about the troubles of CA Medical Marijauna when in a hotel in Baltimore.

> Nothing good can come out of publicity right now.

In the long run, all publicity is good publicity.


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Re: School Of Pot Offers "Higher" Education [CA] [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8074229 - 02/26/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Any "degree" that costs $200 and takes a weekend is better suited as toilet paper.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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