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26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do?
    #8068817 - 02/25/08 02:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

So I grew these babies in my yard for the last few years, Last year I had an abundance of flowers, Heavenly Blue Morning Glories, It has been a cold winter but the flowers somehow survived into late november before dying off, thats when I clipped all of the flower pods and just put them in a box to dry for a while, i actually forgot about them until today, i busted out the box and crushed the pods to reveal all of the seeds, 26 grams worth and I want to use them to trip, i have heard that just eating them causes nausia and there are plenty of arguements on wether to do some polar/non-polar thing (im not a chemist at all) or just use water, so I guess my question is for the people with experience doing such things... How am I going to be able to trip without just eating the seeds?
will cold water/filter extraction work?
how many seeds should I "really" use? I have 26 Grams
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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: P.Menace]
    #8068851 - 02/25/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

IS it your first time doing them? Count out around 150 to 200 seeds, crush them up as fine as possible, Then soak them in a glass of cold water or alcohol for a day or two..Then drink and enjoy. The first time i did them i took 150 and crushed them up and put them on tortilla chips with lemon. It actually didnt taste too bad and i didnt get sick at all.


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    #8068879 - 02/25/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: haze1205]
    #8068884 - 02/25/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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IS it your first time doing them? Count out around 150 to 200 seeds, crush them up as fine as possible, Then soak them in a glass of cold water or alcohol for a day or two..Then drink and enjoy. The first time i did them i took 150 and crushed them up and put them on tortilla chips with lemon. It actually didnt taste too bad and i didnt get sick at all.




but did you have a good time? how strong was it? that seems like kind of a light dose.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? *DELETED* [Re: LSDevin]
    #8068888 - 02/25/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8068890 - 02/25/08 03:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i just take 500 seeds and do an everclear extraction everytime i use mg.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: LSDevin]
    #8068899 - 02/25/08 03:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah it was pretty cool. It was my first trip ever. I dont understand why people say lsa isnt visual. Trees had faces, There was pink and green grafiti on my neighbors garadge, and i saw a colorfull aztec face in the sky. In my opinion if you had a shitty time on lsa or got sick its cause you got old seeds. fresher is always better:thumbup:


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: LSDevin]
    #8068901 - 02/25/08 03:15 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Personally I've had good experiences using a cold water extraction and never used a polar/nonpolar extraction because it's alot more time consuming. Crush the seeds and simply put them in cold water to sit overnight in a dark place (light destroys some of the molecules). Then just filter and drink. It works perfect and no nausea (plus it looks cool, you'll see all the chemicals separate from the seeds into the water).


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    #8068903 - 02/25/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8068921 - 02/25/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok so im gonna do some counting... with a scale so it will be rough but within tolerences... everybody hold on


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: P.Menace]
    #8068945 - 02/25/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have roughly 840 seeds and i want to make enough for at least 2 people as I dont want to trip alone, so should i use half and split the remaining gunk with PDaem0n or should I make enough for each of us to have 2 doses? I can get zippo fuel and everclear right across the street from my house so im good on that end


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: P.Menace]
    #8069044 - 02/25/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

just split everything you have 50:50 with your friend and you should have a great time. as for prep, grind in coffee grinder and stuff in pills or eat it.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? (moved) [Re: P.Menace]
    #8069096 - 02/25/08 04:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? (moved) [Re: royer]
    #8069116 - 02/25/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? (moved) [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #8069127 - 02/25/08 04:35 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I dont think anyone wants to stick seeds up their ass

If this if your first time i wouldnt go over 300. Especially with fresh seeds. keep in mind that most people are using old seeds that loose a lot of potency.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? (moved) [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8069464 - 02/25/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

DUDE! Each of you should take 400 seeds, thats what will give you a trip worth while. And i would just grind them up in a coffee grinder and let the powder sit in water shaking every now and then. You probably will get some nausea in the beginning but with my experience it goes away as the body high comes on. As for the trip its nothing like any other psychedelic IMO. And i would trip starting in the morning if I were you, LSA lasts a looong time...


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8086193 - 02/29/08 01:30 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Here's the steps to do an extraction.
1.Grind up the seeds and soak in lighter fluid for a few days, then filter the messy solution through coffee filters. Keep the mush but get rid of the liquid.
2.To get a more pure product, you should/can repeat this probably up to three or so times.
3.The last time, let the seed mush dry very well, with no moisture.
4.Get some everclear high proof alchohol, and soak the seeds for a few days again. Filter like before, except this time keep the liquid.
Do this 3-4 times.
You don't have to use much. Just enough to cover the mush.
5.Put this liquid mixture in a glass(only glass)pan like the type you would cook steaks in, and let it evaporate until you have a yellowish gunk.
Scrape that up with a credit card or razor or whatever and consume.




Ok i got the Zippo brand Zippo fluid as it was what seems to have been specified and it is made of something different than Ronsonol. Ronsonol is Naphta and Zippo brand is Synthetic Isoparaffinic Hydrocarbon... Is that right? just want to make sure before i waste my seeds on the wrong shit. And i got Everclear in the cabinet so i should be good.

Now say i was to go to my local wal-mart and buy up more of their HBMG seeds, they are Burpee brand...can i use them? i want to make enough to ensure that a few people can have fun even if they want more... Im usually the one saying 2! or 3! when it comes time for another dose of anything


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8087378 - 02/29/08 06:42 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

1- BURPEE are most definitely active. I have never had an inactive batch with that brand. Out of many, many, many experiences.

Ever.

They work, if you know what you're doing.


2- If it were me, I would go for a simple cold water extraction for my first time. Just because it's simpler, does not mean that it is less effective.

Your chances of fucking something up are much higher if you start playing with solvents... especially since you've never done anything like that before.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Gr33nday43]
    #8089453 - 03/01/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I think a cold water extraction is less effective. I only have experience with solvents. Good luck!





How can you say that you think a cold water extraction is less effective if you have no experience with them?

That makes no sense.

I mean you no offense, but you are giving somewhat definitive opinions, based purely on guess-work, despite your lack of knowledge. You didn't know what Burpee was, googled it, still had no definite answer, but then went on to give a definite opinion (which was wrong).

If you're not trying to mislead people, you should only offer such an opinion when you are qualified (read: knowledgeable) enough to do so.

You're really not helping anyone when you do that, but instead are spreading misinformation. You would not like it if someone did that to you. Please refrain from giving opinions based on guesses in the future.


Regarding the Cold Water Extraction: For Morning Glories, this is a very effective method, if you do it right. Your lysergamides are nicely soluble in cold water, and most of the other garbage is either insoluble, or only weakly soluble in cold water.

It doesn't get simpler than that.


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #8089776 - 03/01/08 01:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

where do you get the seeds at to start growing them?


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Re: 26 grams of Organic Freshly picked MG seeds... What to do? [Re: Derk]
    #8089876 - 03/01/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You can probably find seeds at just about any store in your area that sells flower seeds. Heavenly Blue are the most common, but not the only ones that are active.

They can also be ordered online from various ethnobotanical vendors.

I'm not sure exactly where the line is drawn regarding source discussion, so I really can't get more specific than that....


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