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tech nine
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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: SLASHpro]
#8089432 - 03/01/08 11:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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unretarded
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I was wondering what would be the best use of time ,if one was to act as a Johhny Apple seed and spread the fungus,I have already been moving blewits to under trees that do not have them,in the form of the whole mushroom,I have been covering them over under the trees ,with the natural litter that is already there. I have only found them under certain trees ,soo I just put them under the same kind of tree in other unproducing locations. Soo if I was to dig down around a blewit find ,then transfer that to a new location ,it would be better than just using the whole mushroom ?,I just do not want to hurt the existing locations.......
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landsnorkler


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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: unretarded]
#8089873 - 03/01/08 01:37 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pick older specimens that have had time to release their spores. You can either remove the cap, and leave it sitting there, or bring it with you. Blend up the whole mushrooms, or just the stem butts of mushrooms with water, and add to a spray canister, the kind you pump up, and spray with the hose thing. Spray the habitats you found and picked them in, along with other similar habitats. This inoculates the area with liquid culture. It's good shit.
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Seraph in Blue
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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: landsnorkler]
#8090161 - 03/01/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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landsnorkler said: Pick older specimens that have had time to release their spores. You can either remove the cap, and leave it sitting there, or bring it with you. Blend up the whole mushrooms, or just the stem butts of mushrooms with water, and add to a spray canister, the kind you pump up, and spray with the hose thing. Spray the habitats you found and picked them in, along with other similar habitats. This inoculates the area with liquid culture. It's good shit.
I used the stem butts in water method and have been spraying my outdoor grow op.
I'm starting to get pins on the second flush. This makes me a very happy camper.
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unretarded
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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: landsnorkler]
#8090193 - 03/01/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I will put them in the hudson sprayer Thnx for the info.
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cactu
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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: Seraph in Blue]
#8090538 - 03/01/08 04:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seraph in Blue said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_semiovatus_var._phalaenarum
Yep, that's them. Now my next question would be, how do I prevent them from proliferating after I've gone and stomped all over the pasteur. I know even coming near them is risking spreading the spores.
I've heard that if you rip the out of the mycelium that it damages the mycelial nervous system and could kill it, but that doesn't sound right to me since I've accidentally done this to Pan Cyan's and discovered a week later another full, and bigger flush from that same pie.
Anyone?
well i can help out here , first off many of you hunting in pastures have to understand the cycle a cow pie or any other shit have , usually many mushrooms acts as indicator ,is not good to get rid of any mushrooms simply because a cow pie in a ecosystem that all mushrooms help each other in a way and so the first being actinomicetes, or some mold act as coprinus and other Sp can , exist, then como the panaeolus species the big antillarun and semiovatus, then a few day and week later come the other panaeolus , so when you see lot of this white ones is indicating the cycle is beginning usually a hole cycle of a cow pie can last a Mont or 2 month depend on weather and animals and other things, but i see many people have trouble just because theydont understand the cycle , so what this field is telling you is in a week more if condition are Right there will be pan cyan or copes , to be right conditions they need water high humidity and some how warn temperature, that why if is a bit cold you will likely find cubensis , mycelium of copes can grow as fast as 2 weeks and cubensis can take a month , when you recognize the cycle in your area that are affected by rain and temperature , it will be more easy , always check the pastures in regular basic and you will see what I'm toking about , the same in the woods some mushrooms appear fits and help other that come next , isn't nature beautiful when we Start to get a glimpse of it . in cold weathe pie can last more and some micelium can dry out but are not dead a good soaking will bring then to life , that why you found cubensis so fast sometimes , cubensis can tolerate more cold and less water that copes, you will notice that , in my area paneolus cyanences was almost dificult to find now you can find it every where , we use ants as spore dispersal they will do you job more efficiently and you will have a big poblation of duty workers , if you have ants in you pastures put the mushrooms you desire to spread in front of the ant holes in all the ant nest you find , this tecnique is amazing or if you have not bring paneolus cyanences from place to place and leave then in the field you prefere and cover with grass so they dont dry as fast or do spray bottles , as other said,
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GGreatOne234
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Re: Fakies when picking Pan Cyans (moved) [Re: cactu]
#8090700 - 03/01/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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My own theories
Spraying a field is a, complete waste of time, though I have never tried it before. The pastures are already just a perfectly chaotic mess of spores all over the place. The grass is the key choice for these dung loving spores. Spraying a spore solution on a fresh cow patty probably would not do all too much. Because the typical way it happens in nature is the spores are already on the blades of grass, and a cow or horse comes along and craps a warm substate onto the grass encasing the spores underneath in a ideal enviroment for the spores to mate.
The cool part hunting shrooms in a pasture compared to cultivating them, is that a person can find a whole lot more shrooms right away before a cultivator even observes a little splotch of mycelium.
Then as cactu mentioned, the decaying manure goes through cycles, and other dung loving species mycelia compete with each other. It sounds like cactu has seen it on a more competetive scale then what I have observed in Florida. In Florida it seems that one species will dominate throughout most of the cycle and maybe one out of every hundred producing patties will sometimes have a second dung loving species growing from it at the same time.
Transplanting is OK to do I suppose, I do not really consider it as damage to the future production of the field. But those patties that are already producing in the wild will indeed produce more shrooms then if a person brings them home introducing them in to a different enviroment. Also I have clearly observed that if say you brought home a bag of cow patties that were currently putting out good flushes of P. cubensis, on the next flush at home you will see a noticeable amount of non-active competitors also fruiting. When if the patties were just left in the field then the Cubes would continue to dominate the war for more nutrients in the patty to continue fruiting.
If you find a good sized chunk of manure with plenty of Cubes on it which has a good deal of rhizomorphic mycelium permeating it bring that thing home if you are interesting in cultivating Cubes the real way. Crush it up into small chunks and mix it in a 1 to 4 ratio with "Organic Composted Cow Manure" directly out of the bag. Place that mixture in cow patty shaped form outside during the rainy shroom season, underneath the bushes or in tall grass. After a few flushes, use those pattys to create more new pattys mixed with more Organic Composted Cow Manure in a 1 to 4 ratio. Place them in tall grass or underneath bushes. You can mist them with a hose if it looks dry, but they seem to produce better if they are neglected.
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SFbuster
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Reviving an old thread but this us exactly what I was going to test next...I hope it is a successful venture
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