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    #8066948 - 02/24/08 11:18 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey,
So I was curious... have any of you ever trained a dog to help you on your hunts? Just occurred to me it might not be something too difficult to do, and would make sense that it might be very effective.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: NeuroticTrip]
    #8066978 - 02/24/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You should check out the search engine, there have been a few threads on this, thats all i can help sorry :laugh:


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: implee]
    #8066982 - 02/24/08 11:27 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Checked -- found some word about "drug dogs" but none used by actual hunters.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: NeuroticTrip]
    #8067021 - 02/24/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

My fear would be that fido would get a poison one ..one that kills.
I think it was like 60 reported dogs treated for mushroom poisoning last year............meaning hundreds more went unreported.....also keep in mind this does not reflect the "lucky dogs" that ate edible ones that only the dog knows was eaten ,they apparently like them already without being encouraged.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: unretarded]
    #8067053 - 02/24/08 11:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cactu's friends dog loves to find P. cubensis. By the time the people get there, the dog has pretty much shredded them.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8067061 - 02/24/08 11:51 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Heh.

It wouldn't be hard to train the dog to find the mushrooms but not eat them if the dog wants an even better treat. It'd be pretty reasonable if you had the extra mushrooms around to train it with.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: unretarded]
    #8067064 - 02/24/08 11:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i havent done it but i heard something about that being how they find truffles. they train dogs from birth to sniff them out. it sounds feasible i guess...

just find out how they train truffle sniffing dogs and then follow the same procedure for psilocybes (im just assuming thats what youre hunting).


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: sonicnirvana]
    #8067072 - 02/24/08 11:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

wow look at that. there are a bunch of threads on this topic right under this in the "similar threads" section.

also someone said they use pigs to sniff out truffles. so get a pig.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: sonicnirvana]
    #8067689 - 02/25/08 05:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Pigs and dogs can hunt truffles.

The upside to pigs is that they are naturally keen on finding truffles, whereas dogs must be trained (though it is not too difficult from what i understand).
The downside to pigs is that they like finding them and eating them.

So if they dig it up before you, you're SOL.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: CureCat]
    #8067950 - 02/25/08 09:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Easy way to train your dog is to find the mushrooms.

Throw away all of the dogs toy.

Buy one toy that the dog will like alot and you can put stuff in.

Rub the mushroom or truffle all over the toy and put some in it and give it to your dog.

Train the dog to find the toy.

Hide it durring the day and the dog will want its only toy when it shows up with it praise the dog.

Never play tug of war with the toy.

When you want to go hunting hide the toy a few days before where they will never find it like in the car.

Im training my dog to retrive rabits and birds I dont see mushrooms much diffrent.

If the dog rips up the patches just act like it attacked a cat and scream at it . It seems mean but after the first or second time if its a puppy it will rember and not do it again.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #8067998 - 02/25/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Correct. I've trained tracking dogs before. Retrievers make the best trackers because they LOVE to get the ball when you throw it. Reward the dog for finding the mushrooms, trail, lost kid, etc., by throwing his favorite toy and letting him chase it.
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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: CureCat]
    #8068088 - 02/25/08 10:10 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Of course, truffles produce a *strong* odor to attract animals to dig them up and eat them. Their spores can't germinate unless they've been through an animal's digestive system.

If the mushroom to be hunted produces an odor that the dog can detect then that will help them considerably. Most mushrooms just smell like the earth they come from (at least to my nose).

None of that should discourage anybody from trying. Some of the best things people have come up with have been after others went into excruciating detail on why it couldn't be done.

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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: ToxicMan]
    #8068175 - 02/25/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i think a weiner dog would be best for this.

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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: Raven0us]
    #8069793 - 02/25/08 07:28 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I seem to remember part of the dogs training was adding truffle oil to it's food, from puppy to dog.
Truffle = food.
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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: ToxicMan]
    #8070325 - 02/25/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Most mushrooms just smell like the earth they come from (at least to my nose).



REALLY???

Wow.... I notice a distinct and unique smell with almost every mushroom I've ever sniffed.
Though, I've been told I have a pretty sensitive sense of smell. It just surprises me how much variation there is with peoples individual senses.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: NeuroticTrip]
    #8071284 - 02/26/08 02:34 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey,
So I was curious... have any of you ever trained a dog to help you on your hunts? Just occurred to me it might not be something too difficult to do, and would make sense that it might be very effective.




Truffles are underground, pigs and dogs can locate them anyway. Cubes and other actives (that I know of) are above ground...visible. Why would you want a dog to slobber on them before you could pick them? Keep it simple and just have fun doing it yourself.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: farmer88]
    #8076311 - 02/27/08 08:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

it actually would not be too hard to train a dog to find mushrooms

the earlier you start the easier, and also depending on the breed of dog you are training, and also depending on your dogs personality

it would just be hard to train your dog to find a certain type of mushroom


also, training it to not eat the mushroom would not be a problem at all.....unless your dog is just a junk eater who will chomp down on anything....


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: farmer88]
    #8077347 - 02/27/08 02:08 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I personally think that at least with psilocybe subaeruginosa, that the smell of these is the same as what Ive smelt with other mushrooms when out picking.

Its like the same smell you get if you dig around bark style mycillium (sp) networks.

Even when opening bags of products from bunnings etc for your garden, all have that mushroom (magic or not) style of smell.

I get the same massive influx of smells when you step into a forest in winter.

Id even bet dogs will lead you to gallerinas with the same sent as magics.

I have no doubt the dog could find mushrooms, I doubt whether it could find particular species, in a forest with millions of other earthy smells which, may smell identical to the real thing.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: myrealname]
    #8078252 - 02/27/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

dogs can probably smell tryptamines.


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Re: Hunting Dog [Re: doitagain]
    #8078367 - 02/27/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You're underestimating dogs.
They can tell the difference between people and follow them days after they've walked by.
They even train dogs to smell the difference between cancer cells in moles on people and harmless moles.
You train a dog to find one kind of mushroom and you can be damn sure if it isn't there when he says "IT'S HERE! GIMME MY TREAT!!!"
It will be there or was there or it's in the ground getting ready to fruit.
Get a short haired dog though, less burrs to pick out.
I had a dog who had an uncanny ability to determine if a woman was menstruating, if he jammed his nose up her crotch and then pushed her to the ground and started humping her she wasn't, If he jammed his nose up her crotch and sniffed for 3 minutes then humped her she was on her period.
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