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Offlinexbabyboy4021x
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why are my shrooms so small?
    #8066460 - 02/24/08 09:33 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i have a cake of colombian strain that the shrooms only grow about an inch to an inch and a half then the caps open up already and the veil breaks away...anybody know why they only grow so small? this cant just be the strain can it?

cant really see but the cap is open and the veil has torn i couldnt get a clear pic from underneath and didnt wanna pick the cake up but u can see that it looks like its maturing way too soon


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8066470 - 02/24/08 09:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

More FAE and youll be fine.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8066472 - 02/24/08 09:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

not enough nutes/fresh air exchange would be my guess..

could be a number of other things though..


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8066615 - 02/24/08 10:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I have some coloms growing off one cake rite now and the cake has put out some super fucking large mushies and the other cake, different lc, that has put out mushies like yours so it could be the strain but those look like they just need some TLC and FAE.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #8066779 - 02/24/08 10:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i fan them when i wake up, in the middle of the day, and before i go to bed so 3 times a day thats still not enough to make THAT much of a difference?


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8066806 - 02/24/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

if youre away from them alot, try drilling holes on all six sides and that will provide all the fae you need while yorue gone. still mist and fan whenever you get the chance, but it will help a lot. how is your FC set up???


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: just me]
    #8066821 - 02/24/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Cakes just don't produce large mushrooms.

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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8067085 - 02/25/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

that isnt the result of lack of fae that is a lack of moisture and yes cakes just dont really produce that much.Did you dunk?


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8067146 - 02/25/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Cakes just don't produce large mushrooms.

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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8067176 - 02/25/08 12:23 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

so how many threads have you slipped that pic into so far? :smirk:


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: sonicnirvana]
    #8067186 - 02/25/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

going on 8 or 9 i believe.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8067295 - 02/25/08 12:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

lol!


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8067833 - 02/25/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You should hook up an ultrasonic humidifier. I used to mist my terrarium for humidification every 3 hours and then when I got the ultrasonic the mushies got at least 15 times larger.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: FallenAngel]
    #8067881 - 02/25/08 08:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

besides drkobotnik who owns monsters or freaks of natures... i would kinda agree with grahm that cakes don't really fruit too many big mushrooms.. maybe a few if they are low and near the perlite but... overall..

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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: HALFemptyJOSH]
    #8067885 - 02/25/08 08:33 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

drkobotnik.. what is your avatar of?


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #8067917 - 02/25/08 08:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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going on 8 or 9 i believe.




ha yea ive seen it around, it's a very nice fruit to be proud of i cant balme you at all.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8068303 - 02/25/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Cakes just don't produce large mushrooms.

-Graham



ya but they should produce shrooms bigger than an inch tall theese are literally only like an inch tall, i know cakes arent the best way to go for a big yeild but this is my first grow and cakes seemed easiest so im starting with that


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8068401 - 02/25/08 12:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've had small fruits of cakes when they have been cold.
What temps you got em at?


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: shaggydogman]
    #8069466 - 02/25/08 05:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Dr robotniks avatar is a scene from Dragnet where Tom Hanks and dan Akroyd are partying with The "People Against Goodness and Niceness" or tha PAGAN's. LOL. I just made the jump into casings and it really isn't that hard.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: djsethall]
    #8069486 - 02/25/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

my temp is pretty constant around 72-74F


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8069680 - 02/25/08 07:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

how often to you mist/spray them? that cake looks like it might be dry. I would bet you have a moisture problem.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: Jadis]
    #8069691 - 02/25/08 07:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8069727 - 02/25/08 07:13 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

well that cake is actually upside down lol it wasnt fruting for like 2 weeks so i looked and noticed it was fruiting from the bottom so i turned it over lol but i mist 2-3 times a day


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8069730 - 02/25/08 07:14 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

and my humidity is always 100%


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8069815 - 02/25/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

do you just mist lightly or mist directly? I mist my cakes directly very heavily at least three times a day. in fact it probably is more of a spray than a mist. mushrooms are ~90% water by weight and need lots of it to grow. availability of water can be a major limitation in size. i have definitely seen mine get smaller if i start to slack on the spraying schedule. i really haven't seen any problem with misting directly even though some people are dead set against it. not to mention tahoe's "jars don't float tek" saw success as well. i spray my casings directly too.





try giving them more water? if it's not that and it's not the FAE i really don't know what to tell you.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: Yrat]
    #8069869 - 02/25/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

try fanning them out 5 times a day if you can, and mist them everytime you fan


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8069874 - 02/25/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Lack Of Moisture.


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8070554 - 02/25/08 10:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ya... that shroom aint even that big.. i've seen WAY bigger on this site.

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good luck everyone with their grows.

and if you want bigger fruits, you're gonna need more water and more air.. usually that adds up to bigger shrooms

make sure you're dunking the cakes and spray the vermiculite on them ever so often..

tahoe was like 'directly spray' and i was like 'mist them' but directly spraying has worked out pretty well :laugh:

also.. dunking after they start to pin.. that's how i made my big daddy..


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Re: why are my shrooms so small? [Re: xbabyboy4021x]
    #8070961 - 02/26/08 12:20 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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my temp is pretty constant around 72-74F



Well that's not too bad, It happened to me with temps right down in the 50s.

Then I'd be fairly sure it's water delivery or bad luck with multispore.
Shrooms are 90% water and shrooms that suffer growing without enough water tend to be small and have quite dense hard stems.

What PF Tek recipe did you use?
Did you dunk?
How often do you mist?
What is the RH in your FC?


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